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Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:32 pm
by Cephrir
Kagami sure does look like a scumbuddy, but I need to look back at everyone. /Mostly/ agree with AFB's interpretation of 539.

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:33 pm
by mastin2
Btw, both Cabd and Metal Sonic are incredibly likely scum.

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:33 pm
by Cephrir
In post 1573, Cabd wrote:Sangres-Town
Cephrir-Town
AFB- Null
Dan-Town
Aegor-Scum
Skull-town
orc-null
pie-null
varsoon-null

Skull went from "one scum in {skull, aegor} to "town" when he has orc null.
Notably, Orc was a town lean in 539.

1572, what the hell are you on about.

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:33 pm
by sangres
In post 1567, Angry Frat BROs wrote:No its not
I'm not hardcore about bussing, especially on day 1, because I don't play with the expectation of making it to LYLO as scum. But, I think even I would have been tempted to cut ties and go for some free towncred given Flandre's play. But, I don't think I would have started/revived that wagon when I did if I were scum.

That's me. Now factor Nacho in. good luck.

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:33 pm
by Cephrir
In post 1576, mastin2 wrote:Btw, both Cabd and Metal Sonic are incredibly likely scum.
Why

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:35 pm
by Angry Frat BROs
In post 1579, Cephrir wrote:
In post 1576, mastin2 wrote:Btw, both Cabd and Metal Sonic are incredibly likely scum.
Why
Quoted because I know masstin is going to give a vague answer and I want her to elaborate with specific posts/points rather than just asserting its gut and because of meta.

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:35 pm
by mastin2
In post 1579, Cephrir wrote:
In post 1576, mastin2 wrote:Btw, both Cabd and Metal Sonic are incredibly likely scum.
Why
Aside from my scumreads on both?

Varsoon's scumreads on both, plus both having that familiarity with Varsoon. Few if any knew Varsoon better than Metal Sonic, and Cabd likely knew him, too. There might be others who'd kill him (thinking of those creamed by a town-him, like in Antihero, but off the top of my head, the only person is AP who's a townread), but those two are the most likely.

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:37 pm
by Cephrir
Hm, okay, that's sorta reasonable. I think it's a bit of a stretch to call them both scum, though. Maybe I'm biased because I don't think Cabd is scum.

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:38 pm
by Cabd
In post 1581, mastin2 wrote:Cabd likely knew him, too
I lol'd. I can't stand playing with varsoon and generally avoid him in player lists because of how much our styles clash.

And let's go down your rabbit hole and say I'm scum. Why kill somebody I've proven I can out-argue (as per xenogears) instead of somebody that actually CAN read me?

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:38 pm
by mastin2
(Yes, AP, I typed that before your post. :P)

Also, it's not that both are scum. Both
could
be scum. It's
possible
neither are, too. (Just not particularly probable.) It's just that, individually, they're the two players most likely to be responsible for the kill.

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:39 pm
by Angry Frat BROs
In post 1581, mastin2 wrote:Varsoon's scumreads on both
Hm, I'd buy MS a little more than Cabd here.

It felt a bit -blatant- for scum Cabd to kill Varsoon, ESPECIALLY since Cabd himself is/was not in danger of being lynched Today.

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:40 pm
by Cabd
You made a typo there. It is spelled "Ever"

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:41 pm
by sangres
In post 1565, Angry Frat BROs wrote:
In post 539, Flandre Scarlet wrote:I kinda feel two scum in {pieguyn, mastin2, zMuffinMan} but it's a gut instinct more than anything. But, I feel like part of the wagon on mastin2 is a burden of proficiency wagon.
^ All of these will probably flip town.
In post 539, Flandre Scarlet wrote:I feel like there's one scum in {Aegor, Skullduggery}
Both of these will probably flip town.
In post 539, Flandre Scarlet wrote:I'm liking orcinus_theoriginal's hated claim.
hmmmmmmm
In post 539, Flandre Scarlet wrote:So, I'm thinking Kazekirimaru is kinda town in regards where he's asking people why their reads disagree with them and opening himself up to different ideas.

I like Brian Skies catch up posts, they felt genuine, along with his reaction to the flashwagon.

The macmollie/sangres interaction felt like a TvT to me.
Hmmmmmm
We spent a lot of time looking at this last night.

Not the we you think.

mollie mentioned being in a neighborhood yesterday. So am I. All the players in that neighborhood were mentioned in Flandre's post .

As nacho, put it, either Flandre knew of our neighborhood and its composition, or it's a batshit coincidence.

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:42 pm
by Angry Frat BROs
Ok so who is in the neighborhood other than you/mollie?

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:43 pm
by Angry Frat BROs
Also lets be realistic here. I find it unlikely that Flandre would 'slip' about something like that if they knew about a neighborhood. Maybe, but it seems like something scum would consciously avoid like that black plague.

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:45 pm
by sangres
Aegor, Skullduggery, Gooner.

We didn't discuss outing this. But, I think it needs to be done.

One thing that stood out to me on Flandre's wagon was that our entire neighborhood was on it. Compare that to your neighborhood that was spread out.

And factor in whatever you think makes sense in terms of likelihood of scum in a 5 person neighborhood.

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:45 pm
by Cabd
Holy shit that's a huge neighborhood.

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:46 pm
by Angry Frat BROs
In post 1591, Cabd wrote:Holy shit that's a huge neighborhood.

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:46 pm
by Cabd
In post 1590, sangres wrote:And factor in whatever you think makes sense in terms of likelihood of scum in a 5 person neighborhood.
1 or 2 is my bet.

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:47 pm
by Angry Frat BROs
I would lynch Gooner potentially.

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:48 pm
by sangres
Now, what do you make of Flandre mentioning all fucking five of us?

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:48 pm
by sangres
In post 1594, Angry Frat BROs wrote:I would lynch Gooner potentially.
He's not even close to my top pick.

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:48 pm
by Cabd
In post 1595, sangres wrote:Now, what do you make of Flandre mentioning all fucking five of us?
My initial thought is QT spy role, but that is usually seen in smaller hoods. Clearly there's a 1 in 5 minimum there?

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:49 pm
by Cabd
Ffery, mafiaSSK worries me a lot actually, going back and pulling his ISO.

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:50 pm
by Cabd
In post 1310, MafiaSSK wrote:In all seriousness, I'm down for this Flandre wagon. So yeah.
In post 1439, MafiaSSK wrote:Pieguyn, what's your reasoning for the Flandre vote?