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That's revised from before the cat fight

Gtg now

PEDIT: WELL THERE'S THAT ANSWERED

@Snork: you have nothing to apologise for, as far as I'm concerned. However, I am serious about getting shit answered and would appreciate if you'd do so after you cool down.

@SG: Of course it's going to take me a while to do a readslist with reasoning attached. It's one thing to do quickfire posts. It's another thing entirely to build an argument in which you have to read a couple hundred posts per slot to back up your reads. I mean, I could say "bubba is Town because he's been asking the right questions" but then I have to go find an example of it or someone will disagree and then explosions will happen again.

@Snork - as someone reading the game in a more or less quick flow and at once, I agree with you about the non-presence of Goodmorning. I'm unsure about something you did say though, you complained that the Jingle wagon had no blowback and the GM wagon had a lot. By my accounting, the GM wagon had exactly one person doing blowback, and it was Titus, and all she did was say 'I don't really think her posts lack content, can you explain that more?' Now, whether or not we want to call that defense (I don't, because Titus looked willing to consider the vote option) I'm not so with you on the idea that this is enough blowback to justify defending Jingle like you did when you made that comment. Who else had blowback on the GM wagon, if anyone? Also, do you really think that Jingle/GM can't work as a scum team? Because I'm kind of leaning that way myself at this stage of the game.

@GM - could you do a quick read list now? Like, something sorta like what Titus just did? Apply reasoning to it later, maybe only for the reads people question? Really I think people would be excited just to know your top few town and scum reads. I think the fires have lost their steam at this point.

SG - Jingle is cleared not because he's a counterwagon, though that is a factor. Jingle is cleared for pushing Titus/GM team long ago. I went back and re-read his posts and they look much townier after this eye-opening experience.

And Titus DOES defend her buddies at all costs. That is a proven fact.

And more clearly, pushing that team when there was no benefit as scum to do so.

In post 1579, Snork wrote:SG - Jingle is cleared not because he's a counterwagon, though that is a factor. Jingle is cleared for pushing Titus/GM team long ago. I went back and re-read his posts and they look much townier after this eye-opening experience.

And Titus DOES defend her buddies at all costs. That is a proven fact.

I don't think Titus/GM make any sense. There was that weird buddying comment they had that I just don't see coming from a scum team.

In post 1579, Snork wrote:SG - Jingle is cleared not because he's a counterwagon, though that is a factor. Jingle is cleared for pushing Titus/GM team long ago. I went back and re-read his posts and they look much townier after this eye-opening experience.

And Titus DOES defend her buddies at all costs. That is a proven fact.

Actually, no. I typically defend my buddies. I don't always. See mini yheme Book of Shadows. Day 1 bus. Also, if you are as familiar with my meta, you know I have talked the group out of me using my suicide bomb.

Snork, will you do a gentleman's agreement to reread?

In post 1578, Squirrel Girl wrote:@GM - could you do a quick read list now? Like, something sorta like what Titus just did? Apply reasoning to it later, maybe only for the reads people question? Really I think people would be excited just to know your top few town and scum reads. I think the fires have lost their steam at this point.

Well, as far as that goes I think my reads have been pretty obvious to anyone who's looking, though they have done a bit of developing over this past Day.
My reads in most general form:
People I think are Town: Pants, Anti, Titus, bubba
People I think are Scum: Jingle, Guy
People I'm not sure of: Snork, SG

1582 is poorly written...the suicide bomb is in reference to mini theme 1539

In post 1581, Squirrel Girl wrote:

In post 1579, Snork wrote:SG - Jingle is cleared not because he's a counterwagon, though that is a factor. Jingle is cleared for pushing Titus/GM team long ago. I went back and re-read his posts and they look much townier after this eye-opening experience.

And Titus DOES defend her buddies at all costs. That is a proven fact.

I don't think Titus/GM make any sense. There was that weird buddying comment they had that I just don't see coming from a scum team.

Ok. I'm not interested in convincing anyone further. I know what I know. I know what I see. I've shared it, and it's out there. That's all there is to it. I said I was leaving and I should have but I'm fucking bored at work and I can't help myself.

But trust me I really don't want to be here anymore.

p-edit: No. I've read this game cover to cover 3 times already, plus multiple ISOs of everyone. I've put in the work and shown my results. I said I was done, and I meant it. I'm done.

Ok, well I will reread later. No more bullshit while I am gone k?

Are you going to replace out? Otherwise you are not "done" I think.

Replacing out would be irresponsible and unfair and I can be done if I feel like it.

snork, switch your vote to goodmorning

leave the rest to me

In post 1476, Titus wrote:

Limited vla, our offer got accepted on a house I didn't think we'd get. Have to start packing.

In post 1525, Titus wrote:VOTE: Jingle

Wait...you're saying gm is trying to get lynched?

typo, should be "not get lynched".

In post 1481, Jingle wrote:Why the fuck did no one listen when I said all of this a couple of pages ago?

...you just needed a better spokesman.

pants wrote:the second we go for flashy solve the game type lynches is the second we lose

yeah, we should just go with the groupthink answer. because that's served us really well so far, right?
also, you had me on board with a shroomish lynch yesterday. even with you and ika's conftown status, you apparently didn't have the juice to get it done. too bad. it's my turn now that i'm not constantly on the defensive. i'm the one that's going to eat the scum kill tonight anyway.

Squirrel wrote:Wouldn't the easy solution just be to demand a reads list (with supporting statements for reasons for that list) from goodmorning? That seems to be half the issue tight there.

I read three pages of rage and that's all I got from it.

oh yeah, 64 pages, and GM hasn't had a chance to give one of those yet. /whistles

Snork, keep your pants on. I'm gonna get this done. have some faith.

In post 1589, Snork wrote:Replacing out would be irresponsible and unfair and I can be done if I feel like it.

Can't be worse than unbookmarking the gae, vowing to self vote, and promising to no longer comment, amirite Just replace out or stop saying/doing all the previous is really my desire.

In post 1592, Antihero wrote:oh yeah, 64 pages, and GM hasn't had a chance to give one of those yet. /whistles

Yeah, that's the point, but we still want to see it. Or at least I do.

In post 1582, Titus wrote:

In post 1579, Snork wrote:SG - Jingle is cleared not because he's a counterwagon, though that is a factor. Jingle is cleared for pushing Titus/GM team long ago. I went back and re-read his posts and they look much townier after this eye-opening experience.

And Titus DOES defend her buddies at all costs. That is a proven fact.

Actually, no. I typically defend my buddies. I don't always. See mini yheme Book of Shadows. Day 1 bus. Also, if you are as familiar with my meta, you know I have talked the group out of me using my suicide bomb.

In post 1172, Titus wrote:4) Well, if you don't think you can build a meta read on me, why are half your points meta. Also, you wanted a link, how about actually reading my sig. All of my recent scumgames are there. Want to see how many buddies I bussed in my latest scum games? Answer: One. How many did I win? All but two. (Counting Gundam Seed and later)

Hey Titus, your bullshit is showing. Also, I wouldn't say that you convinced town not to make you Suicide so much as you shouted things until I gave up on rational thinking. Incidentally, you appear to be shouting things until Snork gives up on rational thinking. Maybe I can use meta on you after all.

In post 1178, Jingle wrote:1. I stated what was scummy about your behavior. This did not address it.
2. I did so because I didn't want Antihero to get fustrated and disconnect from the game.
3. I'm not saying you're scum because you're tunneling. You're not reading my posts.
4. WHICH POINTS OF MINE ARE META? I've asked you to link to this multiple times now. I've shown every place I even mentioned meta this game. Why are you ignoring what has happened ITT? I don't need links to your scumgames. I want links to what you've said happened in the thread because I can't find anything that looks like what you're talking about.
5. You're comparing bussing on D2 and bussing in LYLO. Those are entirely different things. In UDesign, if you'll remember, I spent all of D2 confbiasing on fuzzy.It's obvious to me that this is going nowhere fast. I'm fine with leaving the hammer in IKA's hands.

It occurs to me that you never actually addressed this. I'll give you three options here. 1. Quote my meta case on you. 2. Post an actual case as to why I'm scum. 3. Die like the scum you are. Your choice.

Why is snork pretending to be me?

In post 1592, Antihero wrote:

Squirrel wrote:Wouldn't the easy solution just be to demand a reads list (with supporting statements for reasons for that list) from goodmorning? That seems to be half the issue tight there.

oh yeah, 64 pages, and GM hasn't had a chance to give one of those yet. /whistles

Wasn't going to dignify this with a response, but you haven't done this either. So.

haha, yeah getting catty about it and making ad-hom attack isn't going to help you.

Might want to check the names by the posts again, because I'm pretty sure the one making "ad-hom attacks" is you.

"Catty?"

no. i think you're a beautiful and wonderful person, goodmorning.

i also think you drew a scum role PM.