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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 2:38 am
by EspeciallyTheLies
And just for the record, are you arguing that you are vote parking or that you are hopping on bandwagons?

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 2:42 am
by Persivul
In post 1575, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:And just for the record, are you arguing that you are vote parking or that you are hopping on bandwagons?
Wow, you're really not reading the thread. I've already given my vote record.

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 2:42 am
by EspeciallyTheLies
look. I wanna have fun. that's why I came back. and the fun of mafia for me is solving the puzzle not combating arguments that I think are stupid. if someone is willing to have an actual discussion I'm all for it. otherwise don't fucking bother talking to me.

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 2:43 am
by EspeciallyTheLies
In post 1576, Persivul wrote:
In post 1575, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:And just for the record, are you arguing that you are vote parking or that you are hopping on bandwagons?
Wow, you're really not reading the thread. I've already given my vote record.
yeah. I'm not reading the thread at all. I'm just saying things that have nothing to do with this game whatsoever. /s

just fuck off already. I don't need to convince you of your scumminess.

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 2:46 am
by SirCakez
Votecount 1.18

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TehBrawlGuy (7) - Titus, MagnaOfIllusion, SethYazura, Aneninen, Ircher, cytheflyguy, copper223
SethYazura (4) - Nosferatu, Expedience, Egg, TehBrawlGuy
Aneninen (3) - Nahdia, Lowell, projectmatt
Killthestory (1) - Liger_zero
cytheflyguy (1) - heuristically_alone
zakk (1) - Killthestory
Egg (1) - drmyshottyiszik
MagnaOfIllusion (1) - Persivul
Titus (1) - zakk
Persivul (1) - EspeciallyTheLies

Not voting (0)

With 21 alive, it takes 11 votes to lynch someone.

(expired on 2016-06-02 14:10:00) remain until day end

Ircher is V/LA until June 3.

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 2:55 am
by SirCakez
Deadline will be frozen at 1 day until the spots are filled. After both spots are filled I'll give an extension of undetermined length.

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 3:01 am
by Titus
ETL, I think you're right on Persivul and Zakk. I also think they are hard defending TBG. Nothing TBG has done has been that townie. We do have an uncertain deadline and definite difficulties getting a wagon going.

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 3:11 am
by Lowell
In post 1516, Persivul wrote:
In post 1515, Lowell wrote:liger is clearly town. one thing that hits me the wrong way:

liger says there's a neighborhood
titus says omg who b i bet theres at least one scum
liger says pers and magna
pers votes magna

Not a good look for pers there.
Why not? Do you disagree with the theory that there's probably one scum in the neighborhood?
I do. Which makes me wonder why you did this only after someone outed the neighborhood and said there's likely scum in it, even though you knew about the neighborhood the whole time.

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 3:12 am
by EspeciallyTheLies
In post 1556, Liger_Zero wrote:
In post 1551, Expedience wrote:I think Persivul is scum in the neighborhood.
So you read everyone else in the neighborhood as town?
In post 1459, Liger_Zero wrote:I mean I guess it can't do that much harm?
Its Me, copper223, Persivul, and MagnaofIllusion.
Oh I definitely think Persivul is the scum in the hood, with a small chance of it being Magna instead, but I feel more town from Magna than from Pers. Copper and Liger are good town reads for me at the moment.

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 3:16 am
by Lowell
VOTE: pers I thought I had done this already.

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 3:16 am
by Persivul
In post 1582, Lowell wrote:I do. Which makes me wonder why you did this only after someone outed the neighborhood and said there's likely scum in it, even though you knew about the neighborhood the whole time.
My initial thought, and supported by the wiki, was that there was likely a scum in the hood. My plan was to observe the other participants without interacting with them much and decide which was most likely to be scum. I didn't want them to be on guard with me in the hood. Then, in the hood thread, talk about other people and form some associatives.

When the new guy just came on and said he was in a hood - and I wonder why he did that - the plan changed.

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 3:18 am
by Lowell
you know, that sort of makes sense to me. the vote still looks impulsive though, as if you're trying to get your vote in before others start looking at you.

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 3:22 am
by EspeciallyTheLies
In post 1585, Persivul wrote:I didn't want them to be on guard with me in the hood.
^ Not town thinking.

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 3:22 am
by Persivul
In post 1586, Lowell wrote:you know, that sort of makes sense to me. the vote still looks impulsive though, as if you're trying to get your vote in before others start looking at you.
Huh? I'm actively challenging people to look at me. I think the worst case for town is if Titus et. al. are able to keep me in the
scummy but not today's lynch
slot.

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 3:23 am
by Persivul
In post 1587, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
In post 1585, Persivul wrote:I didn't want them to be on guard with me in the hood.
^ Not town thinking.
Why not?

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 3:24 am
by Persivul
In post 1583, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Oh I definitely think Persivul is the scum in the hood, with a small chance of it being Magna instead, but I feel more town from Magna than from Pers. Copper and Liger are good town reads for me at the moment.
Titus, who's your second choice for scum in the hood?

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 3:28 am
by Aneninen
I know all of you are going to hate me now, but

mod: I'm on V/LA until Friday.


Because of all the things I need to do IRL I don't think I'll be able to do anything useful in the next two days.
I'm really sorry!

I remember Egg's question, I'll answer that later.
Also, if there's anything I should respond to, please point it out!

ETL is most probably town, Nosferatu is most probably scum. I'll explain that later too, although I had both reads yesterday or something like that. (At that time I at least tried to read a couple of pages and I haven't had any time since then.)

Also Titus (or maybe someone else too?), thanks for your congratulation, although the ceremony will take place in August. We had the official part on my birthday. ^_^

Sorry again!
And I know I'm an aßhole now.

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 3:28 am
by EspeciallyTheLies
In post 1589, Persivul wrote:
In post 1587, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
In post 1585, Persivul wrote:I didn't want them to be on guard with me in the hood.
^ Not town thinking.
Why not?
Because mafia are concerned about other people being wary of them. Town are actively hunting.

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 3:29 am
by Titus
In post 1590, Persivul wrote:
In post 1583, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Oh I definitely think Persivul is the scum in the hood, with a small chance of it being Magna instead, but I feel more town from Magna than from Pers. Copper and Liger are good town reads for me at the moment.
Titus, who's your second choice for scum in the hood?
Persivul.

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 3:30 am
by EspeciallyTheLies
In post 1593, Titus wrote:
In post 1590, Persivul wrote:
In post 1583, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Oh I definitely think Persivul is the scum in the hood, with a small chance of it being Magna instead, but I feel more town from Magna than from Pers. Copper and Liger are good town reads for me at the moment.
Titus, who's your second choice for scum in the hood?
Persivul.
What? who's your first?

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 3:31 am
by Persivul
In post 1592, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Because mafia are concerned about other people being wary of them. Town are actively hunting.
Hunting is getting information. It's easier to get information from someone who's relaxed than from someone who's on guard.

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 3:32 am
by Titus
In post 1594, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
In post 1593, Titus wrote:
In post 1590, Persivul wrote:
In post 1583, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Oh I definitely think Persivul is the scum in the hood, with a small chance of it being Magna instead, but I feel more town from Magna than from Pers. Copper and Liger are good town reads for me at the moment.
Titus, who's your second choice for scum in the hood?
Persivul.
What? who's your first?
Persivul. It was a smartass way of saying I am pretty confident in Persivul scum.

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 3:32 am
by Persivul
In post 1594, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:What? who's your first?
I am. That's just her way of copping out from answering the question.

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 3:34 am
by EspeciallyTheLies
In post 1595, Persivul wrote:
In post 1592, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Because mafia are concerned about other people being wary of them. Town are actively hunting.
Hunting is getting information. It's easier to get information from someone who's relaxed than from someone who's on guard.
It's easy to get information both ways. It's not just about getting someone to tell you something directly. Scumhunting is more about reading what's going on around the person than reading the actual words the person is saying. Your focus is only on what a person is saying so you can pick out key out-of-context phrases and push them, and you're worrying about whether they are guarded around you gauging how people are reading you, and you're jumping on every possible idea to get someone lynched. None of these things are town-motivated. They all come from a scum mindset.

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 3:35 am
by EspeciallyTheLies
In post 1597, Persivul wrote:
In post 1594, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:What? who's your first?
I am. That's just her way of copping out from answering the question.
Oh is that your professional opinion based on your extensive experience with Titus and her methods and all the games you've played where people behaved the same way?