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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 11:01 am
by DVa
Nako, if you were Watcher, who did you *try* to target? You can't know you were roleblocked, you could be roleblocked or you targeted an ascetic

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 11:04 am
by Almost50
Are you stupid or extra stupid? I believed she was Watcher AND she was blocked. It never occured to me that she would target Mew because Mew isn't a proper target for the WATCHER.

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 11:05 am
by Gamma Emerald
Roleblocker/acero both give no result
So either would mean blocked

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 11:05 am
by DVa
Why did you believe she was the watcher? Why didn't you believe she just visited BEF and got an inno on the dead?

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 11:06 am
by DVa
Why assume two roleblockers and not two separate ascetics? Or one ascetic and an unusual watcher choice?

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 11:06 am
by DVa
Why am I stupid because you made about 20 different asinine assumptions and critically evaluated 0 of them?

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 11:09 am
by Almost50
In post 1578, DVa wrote:Why did you believe she was the watcher? Why didn't you believe she just visited BEF and got an inno on the dead?
Because when you hypo you don't say "if I'm a GS here's the result, If I'm anything else I targeted the dead guy". That -to me- is an explicit claim, not a hypo.

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 11:10 am
by DVa
Yes, but she also asked for a massclaim with *no result* which doesn't make any sense either

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 11:18 am
by Almost50
In post 1582, DVa wrote:Yes, but she also asked for a massclaim with *no result* which doesn't make any sense either
It does if she was blocked. She wants to see if a) her target would claim Ascetic/Hider/Commuter, or b) Someone claims RB/JK and then claim they targeted her.

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 11:21 am
by DVa
OK, well, let's see what Mew says since you targeted him, but at this point it might be better if she said whether she targeted Mew before Mew claims

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 11:23 am
by DVa
But holy shit A50, if you took two confusing results and came up with DOUBLE FUCKING ROLEBLOCKER out of that, as town, then you are way out of your element right now

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 11:24 am
by DVa
In post 1583, Almost50 wrote:It does if she was blocked. She wants to see if a) her target would claim Ascetic/Hider/Commuter, or b) Someone claims RB/JK and then claim they targeted her.
also outs the entire power structure of the town at the risk that you just confirm someone is ascetic, which isn't even alignment indicative

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 12:12 pm
by DrDolittle
a50 say you are town gs. why are claiming with no result.

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 12:12 pm
by DrDolittle
in that previous game where I modded, you didn't claim even after a guilty on ofrhz.

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 12:22 pm
by Almost50
In post 1587, DrDolittle wrote:a50 say you are town gs. why are claiming with no result.
Because DVa is a nag and I've had enough of this irritating play style.

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 12:22 pm
by Almost50
In post 1588, DrDolittle wrote:in that previous game where I modded, you didn't claim even after a guilty on ofrhz.
But I did crumb, and I wonder how YOU missed my crumb HERE when you knew what I was doing there.

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 12:26 pm
by DrDolittle
1 - that's not a good reason to out yourself

2 - dude seeing that you didn't reveal yourself after a guilty as a mod role is like straightforward. To recognizing crumbs you have to be observant?

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 12:40 pm
by Almost50
Oh, well.. whatever. When I snap I snap. I do stupid shit when someone is tunneling me for silly reasons.

This is why I sometime take refuge in playing with an alt. Not many know who I am and thus they don't bug me that much, and even those who do know it's me know I'm trolling with that AP alt, so I'm relaxed and don't actually need to do the effort, cuz nobody's expecting much from me anyway.

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 12:44 pm
by DVa
I wasn't even tunneling you, you just started shitcasing me for some incredibly convoluted reasons *and kept at it even after I explained why your argument made no sense*

And your response to me explaining why you had made a lot of hasty assumptions was to hardclaim strong investigative with no results

OK

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 12:47 pm
by Almost50
GS is NOT a strong investigative. You have just finished a game with me where there was a N8 Vig to give the GS a false guilty. I could out the Vig here. I could out a Cop (any kind of Cop). I wouldn't dare declare my guilty on the spot. At least a COP can declare they got a guilty on someone, and it's more likely to be right because Millers are supposed to claim early. Vigs/Cops are not.

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 1:00 pm
by DVa
Dude when is the last time you saw a cop in a 13p normal

If you are town-aligned, gunsmith is almost without doubt the strongest investigative we have in this setup

You basically just hardclaimed cop on d2 with no guilty

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 1:06 pm
by Joey_
VOTE: seph

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 1:07 pm
by Joey_
Theres a vig in setup, monkey's claim is real and I or koki was probably saved

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 1:11 pm
by DVa
VOTE: Seph

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 1:22 pm
by Almost50
In post 1538, OkaPoka wrote:If I'm an investigative role, Mewtaph came up clean.

If I'm any other role, I visited Joey_.
I don't get why we're voting Seph. If Mew is Ascetic then THIS is more suspicious. Again, Investigative vs any other role is a crumb of an investigative, and is giving a clear on a virtually Ascetic.

Also, if the GS is the "strongest" Investigation role, then why the hell do we need another investigative to begin with?

Also also, it was Oka who started the hypo claiming process. If he's NOT an investigative, then why does he even bother?
In post 1535, OkaPoka wrote:wanna do hypoclaiming
VOTE: OkaPoka

Yes.. I'm going to play my own game now. Feel free to sheep or disregard.