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Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:41 am
by ofrhz
VOTE COUNT 1.25
Shoshin (4):
u r a person 2, Flubbernugget, nomnomnom, Saladman27
teacher (3):
Nero Cain, NerfedBuJ, Shoshin
Vorkuta (1):
Dunnstral
Flubbernugget (1):
Vorkuta

Not Voting (4):
skitter30, Detective Pikachu, Cinnamon, teacher

With
13
alive, it takes
7
to hammer.
Day 1 ends in
(expired on 2019-06-22 09:30:00)


Game Notes:

- skitter30 v/la Fridays and Saturdays

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:41 am
by u r a person 2
shoshin, if I'm town and you're town, who do you think the scum team is?

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:42 am
by Detective Pikachu
But if this is cop/miller then has normal queue really started stealing setups from EpicMafia?

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:43 am
by nomnomnom
In post 1577, Detective Pikachu wrote:But if this is cop/miller then has normal queue really started stealing setups from EpicMafia?
It's a bullshit claim and you know it.

Everyone already knows this claim is bullshit yet they are too scared of committing because they don't want to risk looking like idiots in the rare case this flips cop.

But it never will. Have some confidence.

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:45 am
by u r a person 2
In post 1570, Shoshin wrote:If I were scum, I never claim cop here, especially not with an open miller claim.
which brings to mind, don't counter claim this right now please anybody

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:45 am
by Shoshin
In post 1576, u r a person 2 wrote:shoshin, if I'm town and you're town, who do you think the scum team is?
I'm trying to figure this out.

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:47 am
by nomnomnom
I just have some trouble processing this.

Everyone begs me to vote ED because "there are no better choices".

Shoshin reps in, makes the scummiest-looking iso ever known to man, I vote there and everyone flakes after a bullshit cop claim.

It's like the universe is mocking me or something. For the second time.

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:48 am
by Cinnamon
I don't like Shoshin's 'you're bad' argument but that's mostly personal I don't think that's more likely to come from scum than town. I think we need to start looking at other things right now.
For example, VOTE: Flubber I wouldn't mind this

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:50 am
by Shoshin
I'm going to reiterate why you should townread me:

1. You know for a fact that I townread ED enough to replace the slot, & you know that my reads are trustworthy enough to sheep on this. I was trying to mitigate the risk of signing up for a new game & getting a scum slot, so I was pretty confident on this. More than 75%. Read my post analyzing ED for more on this.

2. I've been far more active & engaged than I ever would have as scum. I've read the whole game carefully (50 pages of stuff I wouldn't have read as scum). I'm trying to interact with players to get a sense of their alignment. This just isn't what it looks like when I'm scum. Is it possible for scum to be this active? Yes. Is it likely? No. Read me based on probability please.

3. There's been no resistance to my lynch. If I were scum, you can bet that there'd be some resistance. At least some. There's nothing. Scum want me lynched, as they usually do. It's unclear exactly how they're playing this out (sitting in the wings or on the wagon) but there's no doubt that scum weren't happy about me replacing a lurker slot.

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:51 am
by Saladman27
I’m still voting sho but I agree, we shouldn’t hammer her yet. Also, sho, what do you mean no resistance? You called the game ridiculous because you were L-1.

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:52 am
by Cinnamon
I think you definitely could be bussed here since there has been traction on your wagon but your first two points are valid enough for me to not want to lynch you today.

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:52 am
by Shoshin
In post 1582, Cinnamon wrote:I don't like Shoshin's 'you're bad' argument but that's mostly personal I don't think that's more likely to come from scum than town. I think we need to start looking at other things right now.
I didn't make a "you're bad" argument? I've made an "I'm good" argument but that's about something else.

In terms of reads, anyone who scumreads me is objectively wrong. I know this, so I know that scumreading me is "bad." I understand that you don't know this, but that doesn't make me wrong or make claims of this nature "personal." It's just a fact.

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:53 am
by nomnomnom
In post 1569, Shoshin wrote:The problem is when you're in a game with bad players or players who don't have the correct level of confidence about their reads.

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:53 am
by Shoshin
In post 1584, Saladman27 wrote:Also, sho, what do you mean no resistance?
If I were scum, I'd have partners to defend me. I'd have partners to help build a counter wagon. I'd have support. There's none of that in this game.

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:53 am
by Shoshin
In post 1587, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 1569, Shoshin wrote:The problem is when you're in a game with bad players or players who don't have the correct level of confidence about their reads.
Salad called himself bad. That wasn't anything personal.

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:53 am
by Saladman27
Bussing is a thing...

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:54 am
by nomnomnom
hahahahahaha

this is a comedy sketch

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:55 am
by Saladman27
Nom, who do you think is scum if hypothetically town!Sho is a thing?

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:55 am
by u r a person 2
In post 1583, Shoshin wrote:2. I've been far more active & engaged than I ever would have as scum. I've read the whole game carefully (50 pages of stuff I wouldn't have read as scum). I'm trying to interact with players to get a sense of their alignment. This just isn't what it looks like when I'm scum. Is it possible for scum to be this active? Yes. Is it likely? No. Read me based on probability please.
this stuff keeps bugging me. This isn't at all how you read to me in bop, and it isn't how you read to me in our early interactions in that newbie and I don't really think you meant to replace out of that newbie. Like, I think you've got to admit that effort!scum is within your range

And since when does shoshin get scared? cop role or not. This doesn't even seem like an alignment thing, I just wouldn't expect it from you generally

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:56 am
by Shoshin
In post 1590, Saladman27 wrote:Bussing is a thing...
Bussing isn't just something scum do. It's something that's calculated. It's done with purpose in specific situations.

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:57 am
by Nero Cain
in my limited exp. with Shosin she's a lurksack as town so the hyperactivity means this is prob scum.

VOTE: shoshin

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:58 am
by nomnomnom
In post 1592, Saladman27 wrote:Nom, who do you think is scum if hypothetically town!Sho is a thing?
Teacher.

We never get there though. She's scum. She isn't cop. This is a fakeclaim and this needs to get lynched today.

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:59 am
by skitter30
I'll be around in like an hour

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:59 am
by Nero Cain
now the question is who was I wrong about?

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:59 am
by skitter30
In post 1595, Nero Cain wrote:in my limited exp. with Shosin she's a lurksack as town so the hyperactivity means this is prob scum.

VOTE: shoshin
This isnt really true; she siteflakes sometimes but this sort of posting is well within her townrange; idk if she can fake it as scum