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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 3:08 am
by Noraa
In post 1563, shellyc wrote:no redactions

so basically I kinda messed up since I forgot I was rolecop and thought I was goon until n1 wtf me

Original plan to claim doctor served to get plusjoy limmed and get 2 nightkills in between, and also mess the game up for an easy mundivore lim d2. Since plusjoy suspected mundivore and the slot looks really bad

Also because plusjoy was d1 lim there was a 99% chance of tracker since jailkeeper would have shown resistance. we had to kill echo n1 for getting universal TR.

We could get to limlo with a wasted d2. I also set up sirius as the limlo lim for basically setting them up as my partner in many posts

problem is I misread frogster as pr for being lurky and quite passive. Oh well. We live and we learn.

Also Noraa did very well as my partner, i just made a terrible decision in hindsight.
Apologies shelly. We tried so it's alright. Congrats town it was a lovely game:)

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 3:49 am
by Redados
Good game everyone!

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:20 am
by Redados
also great game-winning tracking and claiming by Mundivore! And great YOLOing by Sirius!

I have some questions.

@Noraa - did you not want to vote for PLUS/Shelly one day one because you didn't want to lim scum (goes against win condition) and you didn't want to lim town (because it doesn't get you town cred)?
@Mundivore, can you talk me through your voting motivations on day one?
@Sirius, can you talk me through your voting motivations on day one?

I'm excited to see the scum PT after Noraa releases :D

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:24 am
by Noraa
In post 1577, Redados wrote:also great game-winning tracking and claiming by Mundivore! And great YOLOing by Sirius!

I have some questions.

@Noraa - did you not want to vote for PLUS/Shelly one day one because you didn't want to lim scum (goes against win condition) and you didn't want to lim town (because it doesn't get you town cred)?
@Mundivore, can you talk me through your voting motivations on day one?
@Sirius, can you talk me through your voting motivations on day one?

I'm excited to see the scum PT after Noraa releases :D
To be completely honest I just do whatever I want generally with no literal reason. I thought about this question and ngl I'm not really sure how I was thinking at the time. maybe I was just like hm imma do something weird so no one can get a good read on me? idk it might just be my playstyle, which is ... a bit strange I must say.

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:25 am
by JacksonVirgo
Mafia PT has been released
Check the game-end post for the link

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:26 am
by Noraa
Well I obviously didn't want to lim shelly which u will see in the pt which I just agreed to releasing. Plus I felt really bad for and yeah that's basically it.

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:45 am
by Noraa
LMAOOOOO the pt

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:02 am
by Mundivore
Well played everyone! GGs!

Noraa, you did really well for your first game. You walked the line really well between getting scum's goals fulfilled and playing the total noobie for AtE. I was actually willing to switch the lim to 72 for a moment at the end, there. The only thing you were doing that was making me suspicious was your sudden flashes of canniness—'breaking character' as it were.

Shelly, I spent a lot of time flaming your aggressive gameplan, but if you actually had been the Goon (rather than rolecop) and you had waited for like, one mislim? Honestly came out of left field. So out of left field that I was willing to hammer Plus
twice
over it... I need to keep aggressive play like that in mind for my future games.

Red, you were fun and a pretty fine townie, but you spent a lot more time justifying your kill on shelly than you had to. She was obvscum, and your plays on Day 2 (including especially that) made me sus enough of you that I tracked you rather than Noraa, who was my first guess. I kinda wanted to track Noraa every night, I should have gone with my gut on that one... I think that if I were VT, there was a decent chance we lost this game? Depends on who our alternate tracker was and how they played. So really, total counterfactual.
In post 1577, Redados wrote:also great game-winning tracking and claiming by Mundivore! And great YOLOing by Sirius!

I have some questions.

@Noraa - did you not want to vote for PLUS/Shelly one day one because you didn't want to lim scum (goes against win condition) and you didn't want to lim town (because it doesn't get you town cred)?
@Mundivore, can you talk me through your voting motivations on day one?
@Sirius, can you talk me through your voting motivations on day one?

I'm excited to see the scum PT after Noraa releases :D
Day 1, I just thought there was no chance in hell that scum would make that bold of a play. Even though I was quite nearly convinced to switch to shelly, I thought there was no way scum!shelly would go that aggro. Shows what I know.

Also, I was still in a bit of a mindset from some previous mafia games I played with slightly different rules. The group I played with for a while didn't reveal the roles of NKs, which meant that skipping a vote was
much worse
than a mislim rather than only slightly worse on average like it is in this ruleset. So to me, it was
super
important that we got that elim, and we were running out of time, and I wasn't really thinking about the nature of TFN as a self-clearing role when I was heavily pushing b/c I was sleepy... I was worried we'd have a situation where we didn't get an elim and then were
still
fighting between shelly and Plus Day 2. A bit of a misplay to be so aggro on my part, but making myself look really scummy panned out quite well for me in the end, scum didn't really consider NK'ing me and wasted a lot of energy into trying to frame me. A fortunate misplay, I suppose?

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:15 am
by Noraa
Thanks lol. I was pretty worried sirius would hammer so I was trying hard to get either of u(redados and u) to get off my wagon. I feel like this game would've been a town win even if I made it to day 4 cuz y'all were already this sus of me to begin with. LOL flashes of canniness. I doubt that's AI tbh but we'll see after I finish some other games which this is my first finished game that's not a short marathon one. I thought u did pretty well too. You were never really suspected by me to be a pr. Shelly, on the other hand was pretty sold on that fact. T^T shows we should've sacked me instead.

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:20 am
by Noraa
@Frog @Frog
you said if I was scum, I was a very natural liar to be lying about my inexperience.

I am VI all the way. I just added a bit more to make me seem more town.

oh also I killed u :>>> sorries bout that lol

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:21 am
by PlusJOYED
Omg noraa had me in their pocket the whole time! lol

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:22 am
by PlusJOYED
im sad i got myself elimed as a pr but it's whatever

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:26 am
by Noraa
and @plus too

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:27 am
by Noraa
In post 1585, PlusJOYED wrote:Omg noraa had me in their pocket the whole time! lol
apologies

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:35 am
by EchoVision
fuck you guys for killing me smh

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:52 am
by Noraa
In post 1589, EchoVision wrote:fuck you guys for killing me smh
BAHAHA my favorite post of all of the above :lol:
when I saw you asked the mod if u could post and then he posted the thing that said u died I was like oh nuuuuu. Can we get an f in the chat for echo lol

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:59 am
by Redados
I'm also excited to see the dead thread :)

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:06 am
by Noraa
I just realized there was a mod thread lmaoo. I didn't even know there was a backup mod rip. @mod I shall try to be more confident when I land my next scum role :) (I'm a lil obsessed with this emoji cuz shelly used it a lot in the pt lmaoooo)

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:07 am
by Noraa
I am very interested in seeing the dead thread as well. I thought the moment u died, u got to know everyone's roles but ig not lol

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:12 am
by Redados
I think it's funny that Shelly did both the kill and the copping N1 so Sirius was NOT cleared

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:12 am
by Redados
Wait I scrolled down and read the rest, Noraa did the kill so Sirius WAS cleared

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:14 am
by Noraa
In post 1595, Redados wrote:Wait I scrolled down and read the rest, Noraa did the kill so Sirius WAS cleared
lmao shelly is much less indecisive than me. I suggested me doing the killing and she just calmly switched it and that was it

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:53 am
by Mundivore
In post 1586, PlusJOYED wrote:im sad i got myself elimed as a pr but it's whatever
You still helped us kill scum! Getting one scum kill out of a PR is about the value town hopes to get, especially out of a weak PR like TFN. You would have died N1 even if we did figure out Shelly's weird play... but trading 1-for-1 with scum is v v v worth as TFN.

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:56 am
by Mundivore
Like if town kills one scum with each PR then usually that's enough for town to win.

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 12:52 pm
by Noraa
Oh btw town should all go thank sirius lmaooo. I doubt 72 would've voted me sooo

and also:
FROG WHEREFORE ART THOU?! (Noraa, too much Shakespeare later lol)