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Noraa · Post Post #1575 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:11 pm

he would've hammered if he was scum so he's not scum 100%

Ythan · Post Post #1576 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:11 pm

VP Baltar · Post Post #1577 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:13 pm

In post 1575, Noraa wrote:he would've hammered if he was scum so he's not scum 100%

It's 4 to yeet

VP Baltar · Post Post #1578 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:14 pm

The fact Noraa doesn't know that is a huge townslip

Noraa · Post Post #1579 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:14 pm

Ah shit that's what I kept misunderstanding. Im stupid

I kept thinking it was 3 and was like hmmmm what if scum hammers?

Noraa · Post Post #1580 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:15 pm

I feel like duppin tried to cue me in earlier cuz I kept saying that two scums with quick fingers could hammer but he was like no

VP Baltar · Post Post #1581 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:19 pm

In post 1580, Noraa wrote:I feel like duppin tried to cue me in earlier cuz I kept saying that two scums with quick fingers could hammer but he was like no

Does that mean anything?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1582 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:20 pm

In post 1546, Noraa wrote:
In post 1544, VP Baltar wrote:Lol I was having fun in this game until just now
im sorry ;(

it must be tough having to decide knowing that ur one click away from destroying town. I sincerely hope we get scum!gamma today bc my opinion on haschel/duppin has wavered too much for me to be anywhere near confident limming there and honestly I'd be really stressed limming there today.

this is rather gross, it feels like she's trying to seed fear into into VP's mind. Don't let the Noraa Seed in!

Noraa · Post Post #1583 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:21 pm

In post 1581, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1580, Noraa wrote:I feel like duppin tried to cue me in earlier cuz I kept saying that two scums with quick fingers could hammer but he was like no
Does that mean anything?

I didnt understand with the way his post was worded lel

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1584 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:23 pm

In post 1578, VP Baltar wrote:The fact Noraa doesn't know that is a huge townslip

No it's really not.

In post 1580, Noraa wrote:I feel like duppin tried to cue me in earlier cuz I kept saying that two scums with quick fingers could hammer but he was like no

Yeah sure let's just wipe away the fact I STRAIGHT UP SAID IT IN PLAIN WORDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In post 1525, Gamma Emerald wrote:Tbh I think if you want to try to decide between me and Noraa our mindsets are very lucrative to look at. Noraa is trying to push the obvious answer of “it’s not me so it’s Gamma” while I’ve been trying to suss out the best path, which I believe is to vote between duppin/Haschel despite the fact Noraa is confirmed scum to me.

Also with six it takes four for a yeet to happen, not three

MCFLY?!??!!??

Noraa · Post Post #1585 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:26 pm

Rip I missed that

VP Baltar · Post Post #1586 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:27 pm

In post 1584, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1578, VP Baltar wrote:The fact Noraa doesn't know that is a huge townslip
No it's really not.
In post 1580, Noraa wrote:I feel like duppin tried to cue me in earlier cuz I kept saying that two scums with quick fingers could hammer but he was like no
Yeah sure let's just wipe away the fact I STRAIGHT UP SAID IT IN PLAIN WORDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In post 1525, Gamma Emerald wrote:Tbh I think if you want to try to decide between me and Noraa our mindsets are very lucrative to look at. Noraa is trying to push the obvious answer of “it’s not me so it’s Gamma” while I’ve been trying to suss out the best path, which I believe is to vote between duppin/Haschel despite the fact Noraa is confirmed scum to me.

Also with six it takes four for a yeet to happen, not three
MCFLY?!??!!??

Are you claiming that's AI? I mean come on

Noraa · Post Post #1587 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:29 pm

Btw what's MCFLY?
first thing I think of is .... McDonalds fly O_o

VP Baltar · Post Post #1588 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:33 pm

What if we just yeeted Haschel right now?

Noraa · Post Post #1589 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:35 pm

Gamma is the safer yet but I mean if both of them r scum which seems to be the solve everyones coming to, ig there's not too big a difference.

Noraa · Post Post #1590 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:35 pm

what im worried about is if duppin is scum with gamma not haschel

Noraa · Post Post #1591 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:36 pm

I still want gamma but if haschel flips scum, I will be pleasantly surprised(slightly)

VP Baltar · Post Post #1592 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:39 pm

I think I should sleep on it. That will give ythan time to weigh in

Noraa · Post Post #1593 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:40 pm

good idea

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1594 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:52 pm

@VPB no I'm not but I don't like being swept off like that. I don't want to let it become a bigger problem.

btw McFly is a reference to Back to the Future

VP Baltar · Post Post #1595 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:58 pm

In post 1594, Gamma Emerald wrote:@VPB no I'm not but I don't like being swept off like that. I don't want to let it become a bigger problem.

btw McFly is a reference to Back to the Future

The reason I think it is a townslip is that scum certainly know it takes 4 to yeet. They've been talking about it since last night when they decided to no kill. They're probably talking about it right now It's the big drawback of their plan. Unless you think Noraa is faking not knowing that, it seems to come from a town perspective.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1596 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:04 pm

I think she only said that because she's new. It has nothing to do with alignment, as I said. Now that you bring in the no-kill, I'm curious where that would slide into the conversation.

VP Baltar · Post Post #1597 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:09 pm

In post 1596, Gamma Emerald wrote:Now that you bring in the no-kill, I'm curious where that would slide into the conversation.

No killing keeps from getting detected in night actions, but raises the yeet threshold by 1 today. That is what I assume the scum team debate was overnight. It's a gamble on where they think the town would land today

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1598 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:23 pm

that makes sense, but like, I also think you hit a key vein of why they might overlook that as well: if the sole reason they decided to do it was to avoid giving a solid indication of who might be right/wrong, and/or if they thought they could sway the person who they would have otherwise killed. I would bet dollars to donuts (I don't understand why that's a phrase tbh) that you would have been the kill if one happened, VPB. Who stands to gain in the scenarios I suggested? Noraa. This is where the effort has an actual scum logic to it. I imagine Noraa tried to put everything she had into one Hail Mary push to make everyone doubt themselves on her. And it worked on me, for a time. I was entertaining thoughts that were honestly rather blasphemous that I'd rather not say them without cause.

duppin · Post Post #1599 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:31 pm

In post 1578, VP Baltar wrote:The fact Noraa doesn't know that is a huge townslip

no no its really not, especially not when both me and gamma have already pointed it out earlier in the day. on the contrary it seems to indicate that she either hasnt read the post aimed at her, that she forgot or that she is faking it. it simply isn't alignment indicative and i know you claimed earlier that you didn't, but i simply can't see how this is not a newb pass. I refuse to believe you would have called it a townslip if Gamma had said it.

also i can obviously only link to her finished scum games, but i really believe you ought to take a look at her doggos game.
i believe this might be her first game so her play is definitely a bit more newb like but after i read it i found it concerning and i actually think all of her latest posts are making me lean more towards her being scum.

this is her iso in that game, she is scum with shelly:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12084642

notice how her read on shelly progresses throughout the game, when shelly is pushed on she tries to townclear her by dismissing/trying to discredit the pusher. I feel she did the exact same here, she seemed to suggest haschel became more townie after i voted on him and that she was scared that both scum had voted on haschel etc, when i have been making it very clear all day that i would always vote for haschel and that she should be able to understand that from my point of view he is always scum (which is also why i dont think it is town at all for haschel to vote on anyone but me especially not when the team could easily be me and noraa since our slots have not pushed on each other at all and i pushed for a skies wagon over noraa yesterday, our interactions today shouldnt really affect his read that much given its mylo, so i think thats a scumtell).
she also does the whole "i am so confused" thing quite a lot. feel free to compare that iso with her town games

now id like to say this does not necessarily mean she is scum, but i think there is quite a big possibility that she.
So solve me and Haschel instead please.