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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:59 am
by The Bulge
In post 1567, Tammy wrote:my Concern is if there are multiple traitors, and this morning I wondered if bell is a second one.

We don’t know anything about how the traitor operates here, but if they are not totally informed of each other but know their existence, then every one here is actually scumhunting which gives this the sense of a multiball game. When I said maybe our issues with finding true scum reads might be setup related it was because I was pondering this issue.
what specifically makes you think traitor rather than just scum for bell? was this something that was discussed in the pigsty or your own thoughts?

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:59 am
by Cabd
In post 1571, fferyllt wrote:CABD GET YOUR ASS OUT OF THE SCUM PT AND COME TALK TO ME
All of the setup spec and crumbing I did to you is useless now.

I'm in a meeting for the next hour.

Solving the dethy can come first but you're not off the hook for Bell.

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:00 am
by fferyllt
In post 212, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 12, fferyllt wrote:
In post 4, Cabd wrote:Townblock application line is here in my circular file.. or firing squad?
If you're town, I really need to know it within 4 pages. I'm deathly afraid how things might go otherwise.
otherwise he will probably betray you!
This post raised the fuck out of my hackles. I think Tayl0r was trying to signal to the scum team.

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:01 am
by Tammy
Bell - I dodged your question for why I was beating myself up. This is why. He expressed some frustration about not being trusted by some of the people who knew him best. I felt like shit about that. Then I got freaked out that he was trying to manipulate me and I got more paranoid. Then I was like fuck it it’s a mafia game, I’m not gonna feel bad for not being sure.

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:01 am
by Syryana
In post 1577, fferyllt wrote:
In post 212, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 12, fferyllt wrote:
In post 4, Cabd wrote:Townblock application line is here in my circular file.. or firing squad?
If you're town, I really need to know it within 4 pages. I'm deathly afraid how things might go otherwise.
otherwise he will probably betray you!
This post raised the fuck out of my hackles. I think Tayl0r was trying to signal to the scum team.
Don't you dare steal my fucking thunder,
I
brought this to the attention of the Ya-Ya sisterhood of the traveling pants

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:01 am
by Cabd
UNVOTE:

VOTE: Taylor

Back in an hour's time. Ish.

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:02 am
by midwaybear
Honestly I'm not sure what is so off about Bell. I just voted him originally because I didn't like some of his positions and not because he was "off".

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:02 am
by Something_Smart
In post 1577, fferyllt wrote:I think Tayl0r was trying to signal to the scum team.
Yeah, that seems pretty clear-cut.

VOTE: Tayl0r

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:03 am
by fferyllt
In post 1576, Cabd wrote:
In post 1571, fferyllt wrote:CABD GET YOUR ASS OUT OF THE SCUM PT AND COME TALK TO ME
All of the setup spec and crumbing I did to you is useless now.

I'm in a meeting for the next hour.

Solving the dethy can come first but you're not off the hook for Bell.
I am aware and I do have issues with him, so.

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:03 am
by The Bulge
In post 1577, fferyllt wrote:
In post 212, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 12, fferyllt wrote:
In post 4, Cabd wrote:Townblock application line is here in my circular file.. or firing squad?
If you're town, I really need to know it within 4 pages. I'm deathly afraid how things might go otherwise.
otherwise he will probably betray you!
This post raised the fuck out of my hackles. I think Tayl0r was trying to signal to the scum team.
are the mechanics of the traitor specified or implied at all? if the word traitor is used in the PT is it capitalized? what was the purpose of all that fakegod-spec earlier about traitors?

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:03 am
by fferyllt
In post 1579, Syryana wrote:
In post 1577, fferyllt wrote:
In post 212, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 12, fferyllt wrote:
In post 4, Cabd wrote:Townblock application line is here in my circular file.. or firing squad?
If you're town, I really need to know it within 4 pages. I'm deathly afraid how things might go otherwise.
otherwise he will probably betray you!
This post raised the fuck out of my hackles. I think Tayl0r was trying to signal to the scum team.
Don't you dare steal my fucking thunder,
I
brought this to the attention of the Ya-Ya sisterhood of the traveling pants
<3

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:05 am
by fferyllt
In post 1576, Cabd wrote:
In post 1571, fferyllt wrote:CABD GET YOUR ASS OUT OF THE SCUM PT AND COME TALK TO ME
All of the setup spec and crumbing I did to you is useless now.
For what it's worth, I think I caught most of it.

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:05 am
by midwaybear
VOTE: Taylor
alright why not

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:06 am
by Syryana
In post 1581, midwaybear wrote:Honestly I'm not sure what is so off about Bell. I just voted him originally because I didn't like some of his positions and not because he was "off".
Midway can you honestly read what Bell's said this game and say he reads like the same Avenger we knew in FGO? That's what we mean when we say he's off.

Pedit: Bulge in the dethy Fakegod explicitly states there are 4 cops of questionable sanity and that the traitor is a rolecop and the word traitor (it's capitalized) links to the wiki page for the same. When asked if the wiki rules for normal traitor apply to this person I was told I don't know that.

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:06 am
by The Bulge
is there reason to believe there might be a traitor and a fullscum in that group, rather than having a 4 person masonry as soon as the dethy resolves? anyone can answer but im maiy asking i guess from a 1) balance pov and 2) WWFGD

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:07 am
by Cabd
In post 1589, The Bulge wrote:is there reason to believe there might be a traitor and a fullscum in that group, rather than having a 4 person masonry as soon as the dethy resolves? anyone can answer but im maiy asking i guess from a 1) balance pov and 2) WWFGD
>0% chance, highly doubt a giant masonry is gonna go down.

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:07 am
by midwaybear
Well I was very surprised when Avenger turned out to be Bell because that was not how I expected him to talk like based on other games. Just seems like a good excuse to call him scum similar to some putting burden on peta but more.

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:07 am
by fferyllt
In post 1584, The Bulge wrote:
In post 1577, fferyllt wrote:
In post 212, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 12, fferyllt wrote:
In post 4, Cabd wrote:Townblock application line is here in my circular file.. or firing squad?
If you're town, I really need to know it within 4 pages. I'm deathly afraid how things might go otherwise.
otherwise he will probably betray you!
This post raised the fuck out of my hackles. I think Tayl0r was trying to signal to the scum team.
are the mechanics of the traitor specified or implied at all? if the word traitor is used in the PT is it capitalized? what was the purpose of all that fakegod-spec earlier about traitors?
The word is capitalized and the color is brown (I think, purple skin). Syr asked Fakegod about what kind of traitor this is and Fakegod declined to tell us!

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:08 am
by Cabd
Now out for real, PBIX presentation time.

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:08 am
by Syryana
No. Explicitly town-aligned cops + 1 traitor.

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:09 am
by Tammy
In post 1575, The Bulge wrote:
In post 1567, Tammy wrote:my Concern is if there are multiple traitors, and this morning I wondered if bell is a second one.

We don’t know anything about how the traitor operates here, but if they are not totally informed of each other but know their existence, then every one here is actually scumhunting which gives this the sense of a multiball game. When I said maybe our issues with finding true scum reads might be setup related it was because I was pondering this issue.
what specifically makes you think traitor rather than just scum for bell? was this something that was discussed in the pigsty or your own thoughts?
No, it’s not in the neighborhood. I wondered this this morning while I’ve tried to make sense of bell and thought he didn’t seem town or really scum either.

My homesite rip used traitors in almost every game. They flipped town, so it was a bit different than here, it sometimes the person playing the traitor just didn’t know how to behave. When I thought about this possibility for bellthis morning; I was remembering one of the last games at my homesite where Plotinus was the traitor. I had a scum read early but as the game went on I realized their actions made no sense for scum or town and that they were more likely the traitor.

Which led me to wonder seriously if there was more than one.

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:09 am
by petapan
In post 1577, fferyllt wrote:
In post 212, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 12, fferyllt wrote:
In post 4, Cabd wrote:Townblock application line is here in my circular file.. or firing squad?
If you're town, I really need to know it within 4 pages. I'm deathly afraid how things might go otherwise.
otherwise he will probably betray you!
This post raised the fuck out of my hackles. I think Tayl0r was trying to signal to the scum team.
skjjsskjskssjksjskjsksjskjskjs

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:09 am
by midwaybear
I wonder if it would be better if the traitor could actualy report to the mafia PT what was going on.

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:10 am
by Tammy
In post 1592, fferyllt wrote:
In post 1584, The Bulge wrote:
In post 1577, fferyllt wrote:
In post 212, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 12, fferyllt wrote:
In post 4, Cabd wrote:Townblock application line is here in my circular file.. or firing squad?
If you're town, I really need to know it within 4 pages. I'm deathly afraid how things might go otherwise.
otherwise he will probably betray you!
This post raised the fuck out of my hackles. I think Tayl0r was trying to signal to the scum team.
are the mechanics of the traitor specified or implied at all? if the word traitor is used in the PT is it capitalized? what was the purpose of all that fakegod-spec earlier about traitors?
The word is capitalized and the color is brown (I think, purple skin). Syr asked Fakegod about what kind of traitor this is and Fakegod declined to tell us!
He provided a hyper link to traitor wiki in the neighborhood which alters its color I think

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:10 am
by Something_Smart
In post 1592, fferyllt wrote:Syr asked Fakegod about what kind of traitor this is and Fakegod declined to tell us!
But fortunately Tayl0r was kind enough to tell us instead.