Micro 991: Names on the List [game over!]

[Datisi]

Vote count 3.02

with 8 votes in play, it takes 5 to make a decision. day 3 ends in (expired on 2021-01-15 14:40:00).

execution

Gimli son of Glóin [3]:

Amélie, Infinity 324, Not_Mafia

DkKoba [1]:

clidd

Not Voting [4]:

Ahsoka, Raya36, Gimli son of Glóin, DkKoba

game state

Doom Counter

is currently at

one

.
~ With

3

Mafia alive, the Town will be endgamed once they are brought down to

4

members.

Previously published lists:
~

[Infinity 324, Ahsoka, Not_Mafia, Gimli son of Glóin, Amélie]

contain 3 Town and 2 Mafia

mod notes

~ beep

[clidd]

After a brief reread objectively, I have the conviction that Raya acted in very much good faith with me and is probably town.

The more I see Dk playing, the more I feel that they're scum.

[Infinity 324]

Why isn't amelie pushing koba here if that's the case?

I don't know. I don't think it's out of the question for people to be distancing this day phase. You glossing over things like that is why I scum read you individually and grouped with Dkkoba.

But you and raya made up their mind on voting koba pretty much, so all scum needs to do is push koba and win.

[Ahsoka]

Like I understand, I can't really get you guys faded today unless every town votes you, same to the Gimli, so I have to figure out which one of you guys are the scum pair.

You guys pushing me is just making me upset, but them town reading me can be a scum move.

I feel like I've been actively solving.

Dkkoba has acted like they were my main scum read all game, but most of Day 2 I was pushing Infinity/Clidd team, and I guess that could still be the team, and then you're TMI'ing Dkkoba town to me.

[clidd]

I'm starting to doubt the scum!Infinity instance individually, but I still don't understand where the tr on Dk came from and the fos on Gimli.

So it is what it is.

If Dk is town they played bad, and if Raya is scum she played well.

[Ahsoka]

Why isn't amelie pushing koba here if that's the case?

I don't know. I don't think it's out of the question for people to be distancing this day phase. You glossing over things like that is why I scum read you individually and grouped with Dkkoba.

But you and raya made up their mind on voting koba pretty much, so all scum needs to do is push koba and win.

That's not how I play town.

You should know by now I say things specifically for reactions to see where gamestate goes.

[Ahsoka]

I feel like you two are just flailing really hard.

[Infinity 324]

UNVOTE:

I just don't get why you didn't say things like this originally. Like, my thought process around how the votes would work out today is all in the thread, but you weren't as transparent.

[Infinity 324]

Also, if me and koba are scum and gimli is town, we would've won right? All it takes is for NM or amelie to not change their mind until deadline, which doesn't seem too difficult.

[Infinity 324]

If you're town here flavor, it's your job to re-evaluate gimli here.

[Infinity 324]

VOTE: gimli

Still no solves where gimli makes sense as town. Koba, can you just vote here when you get back please?

[Ahsoka]

If you're town here flavor, it's your job to re-evaluate gimli here.

I have been. I've been specifically trying to reach out to you all day, and I've been actively saying it's either Infinity/Dkkoba or Gimli/Clidd.

Dkkoba makes you guys seem scummier, but them avoiding Gimli makes it seem like it could just be Dkkoba/Gimli been bussing all game.

[Infinity 324]

Lmao I did have that thought

If koba is town they'll vote gimli when they get back, but you're probably gonna say koba-scum and gimli-town.

I'm just not sure what more to say to convince you, because I'm bad at articulating my reasons and don't have the energy to go through the thread for quotes.

[clidd]

Ahsoka, what's your take on Raya?

I know I'm not a big TR for you or something, but Raya and Dk are ccs in my pov.

The only way for Dk to be town is if Raya is scum and I don't see that.

[Ahsoka]

Also, if me and koba are scum and gimli is town, we would've won right? All it takes is for NM or amelie to not change their mind until deadline, which doesn't seem too difficult.

I guess, but you have to get to 4.

If I were scum, all I had to do was vote Dkkoba, and Raya/Clidd/Gimli would have followed suit, this works my way too. The fact I have been actively sitting back and just replying/watching should show I'm taking my time to think things over.

[Ahsoka]

Ahsoka, what's your take on Raya?

I know I'm not a big TR for you or something, but Raya and Dk are ccs in my pov.

The only way for Dk to be town is if Raya is scum and I don't see that.

I've been mindmelding with Raya for the majority of this game. I can see myself getting pocketed because of that, so I am looking over things, but I generally like the majority of what Raya's said, and gamestate wise, I feel they would have gotten pushed more if they were scum, if even from scum trying to distance from each other.

Nobody's pushed Raya, so I think that means scum was afraid to combat them. Gimli/Raya double pocketing me seems weird, and I don't want to believe that's happening, especially considering Dkkoba's logic has actually been bad, even if it's legit.

[Ahsoka]

Lmao I did have that thought

If koba is town they'll vote gimli when they get back, but you're probably gonna say koba-scum and gimli-town.

I'm just not sure what more to say to convince you, because I'm bad at articulating my reasons and don't have the energy to go through the thread for quotes.

I think your town read on Dkkoba makes less sense from a town pov than scum reading them, and that's why I think you two are more likely to be the scum here.

You're also fighting to get to 4 first, which is inherently scummy.

[Infinity 324]

It's just that clidd seems more open to potentially changing his mind than amelie/NM, so it looks like you need backup. If it's really NM/koba/me, it doesn't make a ton of sense for us to all push the same reads hoping a townie latches on.

PEdit: I can see that, but you know I rely on gut a lot as town. I don't think you can get much AI out of what my reads are, but instead you can see if I'm playing with an agenda. These last few pages feel especially out of my scum range. My scumgame isn't bad but it's not exceptional either.

[Ahsoka]

it doesn't make a ton of sense for us to all push the same reads hoping a townie latches on.

why? this seems exactly when scum push together.

[Ahsoka]

I've also not been trying to change Amelie or Not Mafia's mind, nor have I even made up my own, though.

[Infinity 324]

it doesn't make a ton of sense for us to all push the same reads hoping a townie latches on.

why? this seems exactly when scum push together.

But we've been doing it since d1 when no one else SRed gimli.

[Ahsoka]

I pushed Gimli for a bit Day 1.

[Ahsoka]

Look at that hard discredit train of Gimli, just chop chop chopping me down.

That might actually be scum indicative. He made the choice to push further, almost unnecessarily, in a nitpicky fashion like the italics. Seems like they want to keep momentum going on me.

[Ahsoka]

This has only been an issue with you and Dkkoba specifically. You make cases against me that are the exact opposite of what happened/would happen if I were scum.

[Infinity 324]

True, and I guess lostego was pushing gimli later on as well. It just seems like a tough sell, since you raya and clidd have been hard TRing gimli for a while.

PEdit: honestly I don't know how scum!you would act, I don't even think that you look like scum here but it's the only world that makes sense to me. Even if you're town, gimli is still scum unless it's koba/NM/amelie or some such nonsense.