I don't know. I don't think it's out of the question for people to be distancing this day phase. You glossing over things like that is why I scum read you individually and grouped with Dkkoba.
But you and raya made up their mind on voting koba pretty much, so all scum needs to do is push koba and win.
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:13 am
by Ahsoka
Like I understand, I can't really get you guys faded today unless every town votes you, same to the Gimli, so I have to figure out which one of you guys are the scum pair.
You guys pushing me is just making me upset, but them town reading me can be a scum move.
I feel like I've been actively solving.
Dkkoba has acted like they were my main scum read all game, but most of Day 2 I was pushing Infinity/Clidd team, and I guess that could still be the team, and then you're TMI'ing Dkkoba town to me.
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:13 am
by clidd
I'm starting to doubt the scum!Infinity instance individually, but I still don't understand where the tr on Dk came from and the fos on Gimli.
So it is what it is.
If Dk is town they played bad, and if Raya is scum she played well.
I don't know. I don't think it's out of the question for people to be distancing this day phase. You glossing over things like that is why I scum read you individually and grouped with Dkkoba.
But you and raya made up their mind on voting koba pretty much, so all scum needs to do is push koba and win.
That's not how I play town.
You should know by now I say things specifically for reactions to see where gamestate goes.
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:15 am
by Ahsoka
I feel like you two are just flailing really hard.
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:18 am
by Infinity 324
UNVOTE:
I just don't get why you didn't say things like this originally. Like, my thought process around how the votes would work out today is all in the thread, but you weren't as transparent.
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:21 am
by Infinity 324
Also, if me and koba are scum and gimli is town, we would've won right? All it takes is for NM or amelie to not change their mind until deadline, which doesn't seem too difficult.
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:25 am
by Infinity 324
If you're town here flavor, it's your job to re-evaluate gimli here.
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:26 am
by Infinity 324
VOTE: gimli
Still no solves where gimli makes sense as town. Koba, can you just vote here when you get back please?
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:30 am
by Ahsoka
In post 1584, Infinity 324 wrote:If you're town here flavor, it's your job to re-evaluate gimli here.
I have been. I've been specifically trying to reach out to you all day, and I've been actively saying it's either Infinity/Dkkoba or Gimli/Clidd.
Dkkoba makes you guys seem scummier, but them avoiding Gimli makes it seem like it could just be Dkkoba/Gimli been bussing all game.
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:33 am
by Infinity 324
Lmao I did have that thought
If koba is town they'll vote gimli when they get back, but you're probably gonna say koba-scum and gimli-town.
I'm just not sure what more to say to convince you, because I'm bad at articulating my reasons and don't have the energy to go through the thread for quotes.
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:34 am
by clidd
Ahsoka, what's your take on Raya?
I know I'm not a big TR for you or something, but Raya and Dk are ccs in my pov.
The only way for Dk to be town is if Raya is scum and I don't see that.
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:35 am
by Ahsoka
In post 1583, Infinity 324 wrote:Also, if me and koba are scum and gimli is town, we would've won right? All it takes is for NM or amelie to not change their mind until deadline, which doesn't seem too difficult.
I guess, but you have to get to 4.
If I were scum, all I had to do was vote Dkkoba, and Raya/Clidd/Gimli would have followed suit, this works my way too. The fact I have been actively sitting back and just replying/watching should show I'm taking my time to think things over.
I know I'm not a big TR for you or something, but Raya and Dk are ccs in my pov.
The only way for Dk to be town is if Raya is scum and I don't see that.
I've been mindmelding with Raya for the majority of this game. I can see myself getting pocketed because of that, so I am looking over things, but I generally like the majority of what Raya's said, and gamestate wise, I feel they would have gotten pushed more if they were scum, if even from scum trying to distance from each other.
Nobody's pushed Raya, so I think that means scum was afraid to combat them. Gimli/Raya double pocketing me seems weird, and I don't want to believe that's happening, especially considering Dkkoba's logic has actually been bad, even if it's legit.
If koba is town they'll vote gimli when they get back, but you're probably gonna say koba-scum and gimli-town.
I'm just not sure what more to say to convince you, because I'm bad at articulating my reasons and don't have the energy to go through the thread for quotes.
I think your town read on Dkkoba makes less sense from a town pov than scum reading them, and that's why I think you two are more likely to be the scum here.
You're also fighting to get to 4 first, which is inherently scummy.
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:41 am
by Infinity 324
It's just that clidd seems more open to potentially changing his mind than amelie/NM, so it looks like you need backup. If it's really NM/koba/me, it doesn't make a ton of sense for us to all push the same reads hoping a townie latches on.
PEdit: I can see that, but you know I rely on gut a lot as town. I don't think you can get much AI out of what my reads are, but instead you can see if I'm playing with an agenda. These last few pages feel especially out of my scum range. My scumgame isn't bad but it's not exceptional either.
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:44 am
by Ahsoka
In post 1592, Infinity 324 wrote:it doesn't make a ton of sense for us to all push the same reads hoping a townie latches on.
why? this seems exactly when scum push together.
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:45 am
by Ahsoka
I've also not been trying to change Amelie or Not Mafia's mind, nor have I even made up my own, though.
In post 1592, Infinity 324 wrote:it doesn't make a ton of sense for us to all push the same reads hoping a townie latches on.
why? this seems exactly when scum push together.
But we've been doing it since d1 when no one else SRed gimli.
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:47 am
by Ahsoka
I pushed Gimli for a bit Day 1.
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:48 am
by Ahsoka
In post 196, Ahsoka wrote:Look at that hard discredit train of Gimli, just chop chop chopping me down.
That might actually be scum indicative. He made the choice to push further, almost unnecessarily, in a nitpicky fashion like the italics. Seems like they want to keep momentum going on me.
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:50 am
by Ahsoka
This has only been an issue with you and Dkkoba specifically. You make cases against me that are the exact opposite of what happened/would happen if I were scum.
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:55 am
by Infinity 324
True, and I guess lostego was pushing gimli later on as well. It just seems like a tough sell, since you raya and clidd have been hard TRing gimli for a while.
PEdit: honestly I don't know how scum!you would act, I don't even think that you look like scum here but it's the only world that makes sense to me. Even if you're town, gimli is still scum unless it's koba/NM/amelie or some such nonsense.