Mini Normal 2213 - Village (End Game)

[Lukewarm]

I have seen 2 fake cop guilties in my short time on this site. Both times, both the fake cop and the fake target were town

[ItalianoVD]

Good game guys. Great job Max, you were great! being partners with you. I’m out right now, but I’ll sit down later and answer questions and stuff. For the record I really was/am busy and business really was ramping up for me.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I mean it's been determined by the votes in ELo that Andres is town. Now we know STD is town, from his POV he knows me and Andre is TvT, I just can't comprehend not voting Max in this situation where scum knows the whole time Andre and I are TvT.

Not to mention a comparison of the ISOs

[Andresvmb]

I can’t comprehend why in any scenario you would claim a fake guilty :shrug:

[Andresvmb]

Like it’s fine being critical in some instances and I’m personally always open to feedback (though Noraa with her comments on the dead thread can honestly fuck off), but if you’ve made a critical mistake in the game the first thing you need to do is acknowledge it and then perhaps offer some constructive criticism.

[Lukewarm]

MaxTheFox [2]: Gamma Emerald, Andresvmb [-1]
Gamma Emerald [2]: MaxTheFox, ItalianoVD [-1]

Not Voting: Save The Dragons

@STD once the votes reached this point, then from your pov the scum team had to be on a wagon together, right? If they were split on 2 wagons, then they could have hammered which ever wagon was town.

So at that point I think you needed to stop looking at individual slots, and decide if {Gamma, Andre} or {Max, Italiano} makes more sense as the scum team.

Spoiler:

Unless of course the team is Gamma, Max, but then you would be right either way, so the above thought process would not lead you astray

To be fair, I did not keep up with this game very closely after I died night 1, so maybe you did do that, but that was a thought I had when I saw that you were the deciding vote in Elo

[Lukewarm]

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... ts_as_Town

Fun read about fake guilties

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I was pretty sure I was correct when I claimed it. I considered rescinding at E-1, I briefly had 180'd on you but thought we'd be better off after my flip with the info from my wagon. Nobody paid attention to it though.

Morning of the final day though I was back to SRing you.

By the way, do scum win if the majority votes for no elimination for several days in a row, or is that no longer a thing? Or was that only ever a thing in Newbie games?

[Lukewarm]

I think my favorite part is that in the end, it says that if you want to fake guilty someone, you should lock town them instead. Thought it was a joke before, but so far it is 2 for 2 that that would have been the better play

[Lukewarm]

I was pretty sure I was correct when I claimed it. I considered rescinding at E-1, I briefly had 180'd on you but thought we'd be better off after my flip with the info from my wagon. Nobody paid attention to it though.

Morning of the final day though I was back to SRing you.

By the way, do scum win if the majority votes for no elimination for several days in a row, or is that no longer a thing? Or was that only ever a thing in Newbie games?

Honestly, if you insisted on doing a gambit, I think the better gambit would have been faking an innocent on Gamma.

[Noraa]

Subject: Mini Normal 2213 Mafia PT

Sure. I think noraa might be the obvious ill.

I think it would be better to keep Noraa alive as long as possible so the town can execute her. Everyone thinks she’s town now but the longer she stays alive more people will start to question. A couple of people already think she could be scum.

What do you think of Lukewarm, Save the Dragons, or Dunnstral?

This aged well

[Noraa]

I kinda just think that Kyoto was obvtown and max was obvscum but I wouldn't have turned on Ita most likely. I had my suspicions and its an issue but I do always TR him damnit @_@

[Noraa]

What a game! I'm sure Max learned a lot and she reminds me of myself in my first few scum games. ahhhh good memories!

I'm super happy with what I've learned this game. This game hit so deep in my soul wow. I'm happy with what I've learned.
GG GUYS!! TY SAM UR THE BEST <3333
And also don't release my note pt TYY

[T3]

The

Mafia

team of

Free Money Free Tea

,

MaxTheFox

, and

ItalianoVD

have won!

MaxTheFox

You are a

Mafia Follower

.
You have two abilities. You cannot use them both during the same night, and must tell the moderator which ability you are using each night (or tell the moderator when you choose not to use any of your abilities at all.)

Follower

- Target a player. If that player acts during the night, you will learn which type of action they performed:

Blocking

,

Jailkeep

,

Protection

,

Miscellaneous

,

Kill

,

Role Investigation

,

Action Investigation

. If that player does not act during the night, you will learn that the player

did nothing

. If there is some kind of interference with your action, you will receive a different message,

unable to determine player action

.

Factional kill

- You cannot use this ability if another member of the mafia is using it. Target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player will die. The team may not decline to use this ability three nights in a row.

ItalianoVD

You are a

Mafia N1 Activated Informed 1-Shot Strongman

.
You have three abilities. When you choose to use the first one, Activated Informed, you cannot use any other abilities that same night. You must tell the moderator which ability you are using each night (or tell the moderator when you choose not to use any of your abilities at all.)

N1 Activated Informed

- This ability does not target a player, simply tell the moderator that you wish to use it. This ability can only be used Night One. The moderator will send you a private message that will include information about the setup.

Factional kill

- You cannot use this ability if another member of the mafia is using it. Target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player will die. The team may not decline to use this ability three nights in a row.

1-Shot Strongman

- You cannot use this ability if another member of the mafia is using

Factional kill

, because when you use it, you must simultaneously use

Factional kill

, submitting a target for the ability. When this

Factional kill

ability is resolved,

Protection

effects on the target are ignored, the player will die anyway.

Blocking

effects are not ignored.

nice

[T3]

I had some really obvious distancing and then buddy with italiano and ignored everyone else which imo made us obvious partners.

[T3]

I was mildly confused as to why I wasn't invited to the dead thread, I was about to pm the mod and then the fire alarm went (apparently someone downstairs burned something) off so I exited out and completely forgot about it.

[Noraa]

and who are you? FMFT?

[Gamma Emerald]

Shocked that Gamma died today after all that transpired

maybe, just maybe, you should have let that happen the previous day

[Gamma Emerald]

btw VFP sorry if I came off as rude to you, I thought you were a sworn enemy until some point after you were eliminated

[MaxTheFox]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Good game everyone! This was a surprising ending, I was so close to just giving up. How did we still almost lose when the town killed their own cop/JK day 1 and then a VT practically threw this?

[Andresvmb]

I was pretty sure I was correct when I claimed it.

And yet somehow you were wrong

[ssbm_Kyouko]

and who are you? FMFT?

Yeah, free tea phonetically is similar to three tea as in T3 I think.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I was pretty sure I was correct when I claimed it.

And yet somehow you were wrong

You could read the thread next time you're town before you lolhammer

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Never would have happened if you had read

[Noraa]

How did we still almost lose when the town killed their own cop/JK day 1 and then a VT practically threw this?

I really don't approve of people saying Kyoto threw this omg! I will go to bat for Kyoto. Although not the best play, he was screaming obvtown there! Scum don't do gambits like that unless they're like very very close to dying. That is scummy when you look at it surface level but no scum ever would do something that suicidal out of the blue!! Minus a select few like say flava lava or Pooky. But only master scum players would ever be that cheeky.

I would say 99% of gambits like this come from town. Since this behavior repeatedly comes from town, the people that lim it are throwing imo. I hope theres no lim all liars stans here lol.