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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:38 am
by Wiki
In post 1573, T3 wrote:
I remember gera being this low energy as town too so I'll give him a pass.
This metareading is totally garbage.
U cannot use meta of not doing anything on d1.
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:39 am
by T3
In post 1484, Andresvmb wrote:
I yelled that they were Scum in a game absurdly loudly and I was correct. I’ve also correctly TR them before. But I have been wrong on them in the first game we played together (though I was right that they put out a bullshit role claim which frankly drove my suspicion).
I would say the main reason I’m voting there is because they have a complete opposite worldview to mine (though they TR me). I just think it’s a decent place to start.
In LN 232 I tried to bus my scumpartners so hard that I'd be limmed and they'd be cleared. So that game is just bad to meta me by
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:40 am
by Wiki
Gera is 100% scum.
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:40 am
by T3
In post 1491, Looker wrote:
Extremely subjective IMO. Is there some standard, non-evolving method of reading a particular player that can be publicized and referenced?
mastina
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:41 am
by T3
In post 1497, Dwlee99 wrote:
PoE + she is tonally scummy and is doing some ridiculous ate stuff but when does she not amirite
salsa does ate as either alignment though
she is independently scummy
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:42 am
by T3
In post 1521, Datisi wrote:@t3, is there a reason why most of your catchup today is shitting on ico, but you're still voting salsa?
because all the discussion involved ico
and i'm still slightly scumreading ico
and then i had to leave
so now i'm catching up again
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:43 am
by T3
looker has waaaaaay higher wim than i remember scum him having
both in the game i modded
and the game when we were buddies
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:44 am
by T3
In post 1540, geraintm wrote: In post 1504, Datisi wrote:i mean, my read on gera is 2/2 so far and also not like i have much to work with on day 1
i am of the opinion that the games i roll scum i am awful and if people leave me alone i will screw it up for scum.
i think i am very easy to read, but htat is just me
ahhh i like this post
like does scum being wagoned actually just say this out loud in the thread
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:46 am
by T3
In post 1543, Selynee wrote:K, I wasn't killed by a serial killer in the park (just my luck) so...
Faria- Actually don't find much mafia motivation with her entry. Faking believing the claim would have been something if she could get an easy miselim (like if any of them were at E-1 or something) but none were in danger of being elim. Plus stuff like calling for a policy elim doesn't seem like coming from someone who wants to be seen as town cuz from my limited experience, this usually isn't popular.
T3- Not a fan of their progression. Not helped by the fact that he doesn't really provides much info but like
375 says Three's read is made in bad faith but votes me in
377.
521- honestly, don't get why they are only suspecting me of pocketing when the same argument can be used that you were pocketing Datisi or Wiki by agreeing with them. Also, not a fan of the progression on salsa-
516- meta stuff,
936- honestly don't see what's so bad in that reaction.
956- asks about scum motivations here but doesn't insist on this.
959- agrees with Andre's case. And that's basically all. No longer question Salsa read. Seems a superficial read there.
Ico- Did I say I don't like early reads? Cuz they lack consistency- like, if you say you townread someone on page 5 and scumread them on page 25, you can easily say "Well, the first one was just early vibes, now I no longer feel the same vibes" and this can easily come from both mafia or town.
Like, I actually like
352 and
368. Feels like a genuine attempt to make sense of Wiki's fake claim. And their early points on Almost. Plus from all the reasons they could give for voting me there, don't think mafia would come with
1374
*shrug*
i'm saying exactly what i'm thinking
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:50 am
by Wiki
Vote gera
Vote gera
Vote gera
99% of his posts are his defending himself, all the game.
He pretends he doesnt know normal roles and believed in a fakeclaim.
We found 1 mafia for sure.
Dont use shitty meta of a player who is doing nothing, this "meta" is garbage, throw it away from your heads and play normally
I go sleeping
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:58 am
by Wiki
In post 1584, Wiki wrote:99% of his posts are his defending himself, all the game.
In 9 situations of 10 it is typical mafia behaviour.
Only selfdefending and complaints, selfdefending and complaints, and pretending a newbie
2006.
And he messed up with his post about 857 times wrong and trying to explain that thought like there was only 1 thing that was wrong for him lol. I think he knew roles in that qoute, thats why he said (not only about himself).
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:59 am
by Wiki
^quote
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:07 am
by geraintm
In post 1584, Wiki wrote:Vote gera
Vote gera
Vote gera
99% of his posts are his defending himself, all the game.
He pretends he doesnt know normal roles and believed in a fakeclaim.
We found 1 mafia for sure.
Dont use shitty meta of a player who is doing nothing, this "meta" is garbage, throw it away from your heads and play normally
I go sleeping
Yep, all my posts are defending myself because I have almost no interest in looking over what others are doing.
What else am I meant to do?
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:10 am
by geraintm
In post 1585, Wiki wrote: In post 1584, Wiki wrote:99% of his posts are his defending himself, all the game.
In 9 situations of 10 it is typical mafia behaviour.
Only selfdefending and complaints, selfdefending and complaints, and pretending a newbie
2006.
And he messed up with his post about 857 times wrong and trying to explain that thought like there was only 1 thing that was wrong for him lol. I think he knew roles in that qoute, thats why he said (not only about himself).
I have never said I was a newbie.
I have always said I am bad at this game.
You have me down as not knowing roles, well, I don't. I think this is the first game I've ever played with 4 scum before, new roles happen to me all the time. I had a day 1 innocent child recently, never had that before.
I play 1 game at a time and believe me I see new things all the time, why I like the game so much
I don't know what you mean about knowing roles? Someone called me scum, and the leading person to be scum, and I said bollocks.
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:18 am
by Andresvmb
In post 1576, T3 wrote: In post 1484, Andresvmb wrote:
I yelled that they were Scum in a game absurdly loudly and I was correct. I’ve also correctly TR them before. But I have been wrong on them in the first game we played together (though I was right that they put out a bullshit role claim which frankly drove my suspicion).
I would say the main reason I’m voting there is because they have a complete opposite worldview to mine (though they TR me). I just think it’s a decent place to start.
In LN 232 I tried to bus my scumpartners so hard that I'd be limmed and they'd be cleared. So that game is just bad to meta me by
My argument isn’t based on meta. That should be pretty clear from my post.
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:21 am
by Andresvmb
They’re not 100% anything like stop with the garbage takes. When people make arguments based on meta to defend geraintm here, it’s not what you’re understanding at all. The argument isn’t geraintm is Town because they’re doing nothing D1. It’s geraintm has done this exact same thing as Town in the past, so it isn’t alignment indicative in the way you’re making it out to be. There’s a massive difference there. I don’t claim to know for sure what geraintm’s alignment is here. What I am arguing though is that geraintm has the capacity to town tell in future days, and there’s too much risk in pushing there right now given the structure of the game. geraintm isn’t getting a permanent pass from me. I just think there’s better slots to push.
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:25 am
by Andresvmb
Also, what experienced player wants to admit that they failed to recognize that a Claim from a player was not within normal guidelines? I don’t understand why this demonstration of mild incompetence is getting such a strong reaction from you. It’s honestly baffling.
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:31 am
by Andresvmb
It’s interesting that the minute that I started arguing for T3 to be pushed and they gather some votes, T3 starts posting a lot to increase their thread presence (probably to diffuse pressure). Not sure what it means yet.
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:41 am
by Dwlee99
In post 1592, Andresvmb wrote:It’s interesting that the minute that I started arguing for T3 to be pushed and they gather some votes, T3 starts posting a lot to increase their thread presence (probably to diffuse pressure). Not sure what it means yet.
P sure t3 just periodically does that
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:42 am
by Andresvmb
In post 419, Datisi wrote:
t3 is being weird and opportunistic-y and i'm still trying to figure out how to read him
@Datisi can you update this take? This is the last time you expressed a read on T3. And you’ve only asked a single question there after that as far as I can tell.
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:43 am
by Andresvmb
In post 1593, Dwlee99 wrote: In post 1592, Andresvmb wrote:It’s interesting that the minute that I started arguing for T3 to be pushed and they gather some votes, T3 starts posting a lot to increase their thread presence (probably to diffuse pressure). Not sure what it means yet.
P sure t3 just periodically does that
Okay. Do you think T3 is Town?
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:44 am
by T3
In post 1589, Andresvmb wrote: In post 1576, T3 wrote: In post 1484, Andresvmb wrote:
I yelled that they were Scum in a game absurdly loudly and I was correct. I’ve also correctly TR them before. But I have been wrong on them in the first game we played together (though I was right that they put out a bullshit role claim which frankly drove my suspicion).
I would say the main reason I’m voting there is because they have a complete opposite worldview to mine (though they TR me). I just think it’s a decent place to start.
In LN 232 I tried to bus my scumpartners so hard that I'd be limmed and they'd be cleared. So that game is just bad to meta me by
My argument isn’t based on meta. That should be pretty clear from my post.
yeah ik
i'm just invalidating your point about the thing
i think this reason comes from town, seems like a stretch for scum to make that post
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:44 am
by Dwlee99
I haven't figured that out yet
T3 is someone I'll probably be able to read better later so I kinda want to shelve him if you're shelving gera
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:44 am
by T3
In post 1592, Andresvmb wrote:It’s interesting that the minute that I started arguing for T3 to be pushed and they gather some votes, T3 starts posting a lot to increase their thread presence (probably to diffuse pressure). Not sure what it means yet.
my posting almost entirely depends on my schedule
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:46 am
by Andresvmb
What thing? You’re not invalidating anything. DW was questioning my ability to read you by asking me if I had read you accurately before. I answered that my accuracy wasn’t perfect, but that I had called you out as Scum before which means that I do have the ability at least to pinpoint whether the worldview you’re pushing makes any sense. Still, my read has little to do with that history. You haven’t invalidated shit.