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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 9:09 am
by Greeting
Of course, shit went down when I was in V/LA after days of nothing notable happening.

If
Titus
,
Taly
and
mastina
form such a firm townbloc how come we haven't managed to hit scum yet? Starting to doubt my earlier hunches.

ɀefiend
, whom did you target last Night?

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 9:51 am
by Taly
Uh

1. Wtf with that lim. I didn't even get to the damn thread from the time I posted that vote before the hammer. That wasn't a "kill this" vote. I demand swift justification for every other vote on that wagon.

2. Waiting for
Zefiend
to post before I make any judgments about last night.

3. Why
Dwlee
and not someone on the
Flea
wagon?

I don't have much to add on top of what has already been stated.

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 9:53 am
by Taly
I'm kind of agreeing with
Titus'
D2 assessment right now.

I think scum is most likely distancing or jumping on top of vocal town's wrong assertions.

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:04 am
by Taly
Considering that
Titus/I
have both started the vote of a mislim and that my perspective is aligning with her D2, helps reaffirm my townread there. Like a delayed mindmeld.

Just because the eliminations are bad doesn't mean the PoE itself is. We could have a misread in more universal townreads but assessing who is town in the current pool would be a better direction to solve than "you're not town enough, die" or "everything we know is wrong."

I really don't think we have more than 1 scum maximum in
Titus/Taly/mastina/House/Greeting
.

Tbh my reads have not changed much.

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:08 am
by Taly
The worst thing is that I lack the patience to deal with the growing doubtcast on my slot.

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:10 am
by Taly
I don't feel teamwork in this thread.

If anyone feels the same, tell me how to rectify that.

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 12:46 pm
by Galron
That's a tall order, Taly, and an unfair burden to place on someone when you can't figure it out yourself.

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 12:48 pm
by Galron
Just wait until Tuesday or whenever for Zefiend to show up so he can tell us who he jailkept. If you want to run up people in the meantime, fine.

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 12:54 pm
by Galron
In post 1576, Taly wrote:1. Wtf with that lim. I didn't even get to the damn thread from the time I posted that vote before the hammer.
You don't get to not take responsibility for placing a vote. Everyone knows that every time they vote it could result in a lim.

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:01 pm
by Galron
I odn't know why they wouldn't kill the jailkeeper actually. Seems like the more optimal play there.

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:14 pm
by House
In post 1576, Taly wrote:I demand swift justification for every other vote on that wagon.
I'll spoiler mine too reduce scrolling:

Spoiler:
because

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:58 pm
by ɀefiend
I jailed Scorpious. Isn't there a discrepancy between what Scorpious claimed to submit and what he claimed?
In post 60, Scorpious wrote:Man, I am so lame. Everyone asked for all these exotic roles and I’m here, like yeah! Role blocker!!

Admittedly this is my first u pick

I picked
Ninja
JOAT
Roleblocker

With a town preference

I’m so boring
In post 1506, Scorpious wrote:
In post 1505, Enchant wrote:7+ days passed and no one decapitated, wtf stale game.

VOTE: Scorpious
I agree, watching house feed his ego is getting old.

I’m a 1-shot Neapolitan and I was blocked last night looking at Zefiend..
I jailed him on the off-chance that he was somehow telling the truth, and is another town PR, because I figured that scum might be inclined to shoot claimed PRs. However, they might be afraid of myself being protected.

So is it more likely that there is a discrepancy in Scorpious' claims and was the NK target last night,

or is it more likely that Scorpious was chosen to perform the NK?

Given how bad most of Scorpious' votes have been all game, then IF he is scum, I would think that the scum team would judge him to be on shakiest ground, and therefore least risk in performing the NK.

Meg vote --> bad
Cheeky vote --> bad
Another Meg vote --> bad again
Enchant vote --> lazy but fine
Dwlee vote --> I don't understand it, maybe fine
zefiend vote --> bad
flea vote --> bad

In my opinion Scorpious is not a prime NK target, since if he were actually telling the truth, his powers are used up and now from scum's perspective he would just be a Named VT. I think even if you toss out Taly and I from NK pool because scum is scared of protection, there are better targets than Scorpious.

So I am inclined to believe Scorpious was sent to perform the kill and would be willing to vote there.
Taly
, I find it discouraging that you feel a lack of teamwork. I am here and can work with you. If you can help me flesh out some town-reads that would be great because right now nobody else is screaming town to me.

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 2:08 pm
by House
VOTE: Scorpious

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 2:10 pm
by Dwlee99
If scorpius is town I could see scum killing him assuming he lied about shots, but I still want the yeet

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 2:20 pm
by House
In post 1588, Dwlee99 wrote:If scorpius is town I could see scum killing him assuming he lied about shots, but I still want the yeet
If you wonder why I think you're scum, this post is an excellent example.

If he flips green, this post reeks of TMI. Scorpious is not at all the obvious nk last night.

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 5:03 pm
by Enchant
I asking again, more seriously now.

Who submitted Town Jailkeeper and Town Neapolitan?

I didn't.

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 5:07 pm
by Dwlee99
In post 1589, House wrote:
In post 1588, Dwlee99 wrote:If scorpius is town I could see scum killing him assuming he lied about shots, but I still want the yeet
If you wonder why I think you're scum, this post is an excellent example.

If he flips green, this post reeks of TMI. Scorpious is not at all the obvious nk last night.
Do you think I wouldn't realize that if I were scum and not make the post

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 6:58 pm
by Scorpious
In post 1590, Enchant wrote:I asking again, more seriously now.

Who submitted Town Jailkeeper and Town Neapolitan?

I didn't.
I submitted JOAT. That could include Neapolitan.

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 7:08 pm
by Greeting
In post 1586, ɀefiend wrote:I jailed Scorpious. Isn't there a discrepancy between what Scorpious claimed to submit and what he claimed?
Alright then.

VOTE: Scorpious

I do not see a better elimination Day Three.

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 7:41 pm
by Dwlee99
In post 1592, Scorpious wrote:
In post 1590, Enchant wrote:I asking again, more seriously now.

Who submitted Town Jailkeeper and Town Neapolitan?

I didn't.
I submitted JOAT. That could include Neapolitan.
You should be full claiming if there's more to your role

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:28 am
by mastina
In post 1578, Taly wrote:Just because the eliminations are bad doesn't mean the PoE itself is. We could have a misread in more universal townreads but assessing who is town in the current pool would be a better direction to solve than "you're not town enough, die" or "everything we know is wrong."

I really don't think we have more than 1 scum maximum in
Titus/Taly/mastina/House/Greeting
.

Tbh my reads have not changed much.
^Pretty much this.
In post 1586, ɀefiend wrote:I am inclined to believe Scorpious was sent to perform the kill and would be willing to vote there.
I agree, but the reason I voted Dwlee is,
1: I believe that Scorpious, whatever scum role he is (goon, PR), is the most expendable member of the scumteam;
2: I believe that the scumteam knew Scorpious was blocked last night and knew he was going down;
3: As such I believe that Dwlee's vote of Scorpious before the result was scum-indicative as TMI.

That said, I'll still settle for a guaranteed scum elimination over a probable scum elimination even if said guaranteed scum elimination is worthless to the scumteam and said probable scum elimination likely still has a use to the scumteam. Because guaranteed scum elimination > probable scum elimination.

(I'm not voting Scorpious because I'm letting players get a chance to check in.)

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:40 am
by Taly
In post 1581, Galron wrote:That's a tall order, Taly, and an unfair burden to place on someone when you can't figure it out yourself.
On what? The call for more cohesion or having people justify their flash votes that had very little context?

I can't look at that wagon and not believe there are 1, maybe 2 of the 3 scum on it that were in the PoE and wanted to take a shot at a miss.

D2 was riddled with 1v1s that excluded
Flea
, so why did faer get eliminated so quickly?

My answer? Scum.
In post 1583, Galron wrote:
In post 1576, Taly wrote:1. Wtf with that lim. I didn't even get to the damn thread from the time I posted that vote before the hammer.
You don't get to not take responsibility for placing a vote. Everyone knows that every time they vote it could result in a lim.
Of course but I didn't have a crystal ball that this would end up in an elimination in less than 3 hours after my vote. You're still not answering my prompt. I don't think what I'm asking is unreasonable in the slightest.

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:46 am
by Taly
Zefiend
, are you comfortable giving a readslist? I'm curious sbout the point at which town / null / scum lies with you. Especially with
Dwlee
.

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:00 am
by Galron
In post 1596, Taly wrote:
In post 1581, Galron wrote:That's a tall order, Taly, and an unfair burden to place on someone when you can't figure it out yourself.
On what? The call for more cohesion or having people justify their flash votes that had very little context?

I can't look at that wagon and not believe there are 1, maybe 2 of the 3 scum on it that were in the PoE and wanted to take a shot at a miss.

D2 was riddled with 1v1s that excluded
Flea
, so why did faer get eliminated so quickly?

My answer? Scum.
In post 1583, Galron wrote:
In post 1576, Taly wrote:1. Wtf with that lim. I didn't even get to the damn thread from the time I posted that vote before the hammer.
You don't get to not take responsibility for placing a vote. Everyone knows that every time they vote it could result in a lim.
Of course but I didn't have a crystal ball that this would end up in an elimination in less than 3 hours after my vote. You're still not answering my prompt. I don't think what I'm asking is unreasonable in the slightest.
What you're asking is for someone to come up with a plan for you to bring the town together. That's a pretty audacious request. That being said, no one seems to want to change their POE, which means there's some serious fuckery going on. The best way to approach that is to reevaluate.

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:06 am
by Taly
That's not at all what I'm asking of others,
Galron
, and you're still not justifying your E1 vote on
Flea
when you've spent the whole previous day pushing
Zefiend
,
Scorpious
, or me.