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In post 1576, Frozen Angel wrote:I was so about to steal the page top but I have a kind heart

I have something to say about that in your signature

Yume, you remember how in the hood you were still hung up on that one game 6 years ago where people did things you didn't think were optimal and your faction lost because of it?

You're being those people right now. Why is your freedom to choose this action right now more important than the opinions of literally everyone else in the game? It's not. I can't stop you doing it except with words. But when it comes to the endgame, however things transpire, I hope you learn a lesson about how ultimately mafia is about making choices because you believe them to be right, and not just making a choice and sticking to it. Maybe you can cite this game rather than one from over half a decade ago as the reason for a changed mentality going beyond it. The gladiate ability is the epitome of making a choice and not being able to take it back, and right now you would be using it in a moment of weakness. You will be wrong.

yume if you gladiate at this state I'll probably vote you unless if you have guilty result or a hard solid case.

your choice

Okay I'm doing a votecount first and then updating the challenge list so dont worry if you're not listed.

In post 1578, jjh927 wrote:Yume, you remember how in the hood you were still hung up on that one game 6 years ago where people did things you didn't think were optimal and your faction lost because of it?

You're being those people right now. Why is your freedom to choose this action right now more important than the opinions of literally everyone else in the game? It's not. I can't stop you doing it except with words. But when it comes to the endgame, however things transpire, I hope you learn a lesson about how ultimately mafia is about making choices because you believe them to be right, and not just making a choice and sticking to it. Maybe you can cite this game rather than one from over half a decade ago as the reason for a changed mentality going beyond it. The gladiate ability is the epitome of making a choice and not being able to take it back, and right now you would be using it in a moment of weakness. You will be wrong.

As long as you believe that the freedom of making a choice is more important than winning, I will never agree with you.

That said, I will not to it, at least not during this phase.

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I mean, it's not more important than winning

It's just that you don't recognise that you're someone who makes choices too, and when you make choices at the expense of other players in the game, you actually lower your chances of winning

To be quite honest, I've seen you make whole strings of badly informed choices in this game, and I've explained why they are badly informed and that you should not do them

In post 1584, jjh927 wrote:To be quite honest, I've seen you make whole strings of badly informed choices in this game, and I've explained why they are badly informed and that you should not do them

And I know it too. And you know what else I know? I know that I suck at reading players.

And that other thing is the only way I can trust you, so I wanted you to agree with it no matter what.

The threat of gladiate is my assurance that you will.

In post 1587, Yume wrote:The threat of gladiate is my assurance that you will.

Do what i say or i shot self.

In post 1583, jjh927 wrote:I mean, it's not more important than winning

It's just that you don't recognise that you're someone who makes choices too, and when you make choices at the expense of other players in the game, you actually lower your chances of winning

Maybe, but if those players start making bad choices themselves, then what?

You haven't had to watch town run around like headless chickens after you died. You also haven't had to watch them antagonize the one player you knew was right purely for the sake of the freedom to make bad choices after you died.

Yume, Gladiate will put you and someone else in elimination pool. If you're town then there is a 50% chance that you ruined that day phase just statistically speaking,

unless if you have a solid case against someone almost always gladiating is an anti town utility.

Gladiating can be useful in a very specific conditions but this is clearly not one. can you please evaluate a read list for me

I haven't?

Christ, Yume, do you know how many games I've been nightkilled in night 1 and sat down to watch town bumble about with no direction? Happens a lot of the time- I just sit back and enjoy the show because I probably got scum eliminated on day 1 or otherwise pointed directly at them, which is doing my bit.

It's not like town would be suddenly cohesive if you were still alive in your case.

In post 1591, Frozen Angel wrote:Yume, Gladiate will put you and someone else in elimination pool. If you're town then there is a 50% chance that you ruined that day phase just statistically speaking,

unless if you have a solid case against someone almost always gladiating is an anti town utility.

Gladiating can be useful in a very specific conditions but this is clearly not one. can you please evaluate a read list for me

I believe I said I suck at reading players.

Have you considered trying to get better at it

In post 1594, jjh927 wrote:Have you considered trying to get better at it

I have, once, but certain events made me realize it's a waste of time. People would always see me as 'bad', and so would never actually listen to me, regardless of whether I got better at it or not.

Besides, being bad has certain advantages of its own.

This got swept under the rug a bit, but does anyone have an explanation for Yume surviving that n3 vig that got claimed

nUMBER TWO!

In post 1400, Roden wrote:Shiro is barely playing

K

If you say so.