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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:04 pm
by Lukewarm
Yeah, but how was anyone supposed to say "we want you to tell us all the details on your productivity costs, because we want to know if you have the growing cost consistent with all flipped roles so far?" Without telling potential scum!you exactly what to say?
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:05 pm
by Lukewarm
In post 1059, Roden wrote: In post 1053, furtiveglance wrote: In post 1047, Ausuka wrote:hi uh I would like to as a PSA reminder that using full productivity is an useful night action and something every PR should consider especially if they kinda suck thanks
Mailman does seem insanely useless.....Roden, why bother?
It's tiered, if I don't use my modifier it only costs 5%. That's the version I went with since I didn't find the modifier useful last night.
Why does this post exist, if it costs you nothing to use the modifier?
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:06 pm
by Roden
In post 1575, Lukewarm wrote:
Yeah, but how was anyone supposed to say "we want you to tell us all the details on your productivity costs, because we want to know if you have the growing cost consistent with all flipped roles so far?" Without telling potential scum!you exactly what to say?
Luke
Do you seriously think scum!me sits in the scum PT with my scum buddies and none of can manage to rub to scum brain cells together enough to remember to check flipped roles for consistency
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:08 pm
by Roden
In post 1574, PenguinPower wrote: In post 1572, Roden wrote:I also said you had no reason to believe me, which...is exactly what happened.
Because you said something different than you did initially?
Maybe clear that up?
In post 1576, Lukewarm wrote: In post 1059, Roden wrote: In post 1053, furtiveglance wrote: In post 1047, Ausuka wrote:hi uh I would like to as a PSA reminder that using full productivity is an useful night action and something every PR should consider especially if they kinda suck thanks
Mailman does seem insanely useless.....Roden, why bother?
It's tiered, if I don't use my modifier it only costs 5%. That's the version I went with since I didn't find the modifier useful last night.
Why does this post exist, if it costs you nothing to use the modifier?
Idk, I didn't design my role.
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:09 pm
by PenguinPower
Right - but why did you say "if I don't use?"
That implies your modifier has a cost.
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:09 pm
by PenguinPower
Like - if the modifier has 0 cost why would you not use it despite your assessed usefulness?
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:10 pm
by Roden
Because if I leave things vague and don't get voted out then scum might think I'm softing a modifier that could actually hurt them, thus giving them a reason to NK me
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:10 pm
by Lukewarm
That does not answer the question.
"If I don't use my modifier it only costs 5%" implies conversely that if you do use your modifier, it costs some value more then 5%.
You are now claiming that that is not the case.
Why did you sit down and type "If I don't use my modifier it only costs 5%"
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:11 pm
by Roden
Look above your post
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:11 pm
by Lukewarm
In post 1581, Roden wrote:Because if I leave things vague and don't get voted out then scum might think I'm softing a modifier that could actually hurt them, thus giving them a reason to NK me
Okay. sure. You lie about the cost in order to keep it vague.
Why would you not use the modifier if it did not cost more?
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:18 pm
by Roden
In post 1244, Roden wrote:I'm never gonna understand why I'm always like this as town or what I'm doing wrong
The modifier makes the person that I message able message me back the next night for free. That's it, there's nothing else to claim.
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:22 pm
by Lukewarm
Why don't you just give straight answers....
Are you saying that your role is always send a message, get a response, and you don't get the response simply because Peta died?
And the whole modifier bit was made up as part of this obfuscation play you were doing?
If yes, why make me guess... its frustrating.
If no, realize that your engagement is leaving me having to guess at what you mean, which is still frustrating.
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:24 pm
by Something_Smart
Is Roden known for being uncooperative/obstinate as town?
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:25 pm
by PenguinPower
In post 1581, Roden wrote:Because if I leave things vague and don't get voted out then scum might think I'm softing a modifier that could actually hurt them, thus giving them a reason to NK me
You...aren't in the place though. Like - that's not the likely outcome at this point.
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:25 pm
by Roden
I didn't make you guess anything, you're just not listening to me. I full claimed and that wasn't enough for some reason, people wanted more info than I had to give.
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:26 pm
by PenguinPower
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:27 pm
by Lukewarm
In post 1588, PenguinPower wrote: In post 1581, Roden wrote:Because if I leave things vague and don't get voted out then scum might think I'm softing a modifier that could actually hurt them, thus giving them a reason to NK me
You...aren't in the place though. Like - that's not the likely outcome at this point.
If he is town, then that was the idea when he did it at the very start of the day before all of the suspicions fell on him.
And then he is being this way because we shot down his ingenious plan by questioning him.
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:27 pm
by Something_Smart
Hmm. Fire, can you link that?
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:33 pm
by Roden
In post 1591, Lukewarm wrote: In post 1588, PenguinPower wrote: In post 1581, Roden wrote:Because if I leave things vague and don't get voted out then scum might think I'm softing a modifier that could actually hurt them, thus giving them a reason to NK me
You...aren't in the place though. Like - that's not the likely outcome at this point.
If he is town, then that was the idea when he did it at the very start of the day before all of the suspicions fell on him.
And then he is being this way because we shot down his ingenious plan by questioning him.
That's not what happened at all, but ok
I was asked to do play more, so I did. I then got run up because people wanted a claim, which I gave, and then I lost investment in the game. Me getting annoyed at people nitpicking me and openly trying to manipulate me into doing what they want when I know I'm dying anyway within the last 24 hours is not a particularly fun or enjoyable experience. Sorry I didn't fake a happy mood for your own comfort.
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:35 pm
by PenguinPower
We have like 12 days left so i'm not sure why that's your conclusion at this point, but you shutting down certainly doesn't help.
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:39 pm
by Vivax
UNVOTE:
Luke, mastina, (???)
I don‘t know, maybe Ydrasse for third
But I‘m never limming Roden today I think after re-ISOing.
This extremely obstinate defense almost always comes from town in my experience. Especially when it‘s so genuinely egocentrist at times (not negatively connotated as it‘s a townie process)
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:40 pm
by Roden
Interestingly enough, I'm an imperfect human susceptible to my own emotions
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:41 pm
by Vivax
If you think a scum puts up that type of defense I don‘t know what to tell you.
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:48 pm
by Andresvmb
In post 1595, Vivax wrote:UNVOTE:
Luke, mastina, (???)
I don‘t know, maybe Ydrasse for third
But I‘m never limming Roden today I think after re-ISOing.
This extremely obstinate defense almost always comes from town in my experience. Especially when it‘s so genuinely egocentrist at times (not negatively connotated as it‘s a townie process)
I have been thinking about this, and I think it’s silly to doubt mastina as Town at this point.
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:49 pm
by PenguinPower
In post 1597, Vivax wrote:If you think a scum puts up that type of defense I don‘t know what to tell you.
um.....