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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 8:46 am
by Andrius
gandalf5166 wrote:I don't think either scumteam has an NK.
I've considered this.

I might present my case later on, with the reread.
Because it *might* be plausible.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 8:48 am
by gandalf5166
The only obstacle there is that no townie would have shot dram/you. But that can be solved by a LC being recruited N0. Which makes ooba look bad. :/

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 8:52 am
by Andrius
gandalf5166 wrote:The only obstacle there is that no townie would have shot dram/you. But that can be solved by a LC being recruited N0. Which makes ooba look bad. :/
Exactly.
This totally supports my theory.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 8:57 am
by Andrius
Gandalf, are you limited?

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:04 am
by gandalf5166
Limited? Meaning?

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:14 am
by Andrius
gandalf5166 wrote:Limited? Meaning?
ooba claimed that loose guns are one-shot.
Are you similarly limited?

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:15 am
by gandalf5166
I am both not limited but at the same time very much limited. You might be able to guess my role. ;)

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:17 am
by Andrius
gandalf5166 wrote:I am both not limited but at the same time very much limited. You might be able to guess my role. ;)
I don't get it.
But whatever.
If you are what I think you are then things are falling into place.


^Don't fix the tags. I'm trying to get across something.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:18 am
by gandalf5166
I don't think my role should cause anything to fall into place.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:20 am
by Andrius
Wait, was it you or Chrono who Yos labeled as the RB? :?

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:22 am
by Andrius
Nm it was Chrono...

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:23 am
by gandalf5166
Chrono. So all this rolefishing was a mistake? >.> /facepalm

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:24 am
by Chronopie
Everyone is limited in some way. (unless you're action immune, lynch immune, unlimited kill per night SK).

Example: I'm limited in that I can only target one person per night.

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p.edit: probably me. ofc I neither confirm nor deny said attributation.

p.edit II: Ninja'd

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:26 am
by Andrius
gandalf5166 wrote:Chrono. So all this rolefishing was a mistake? >.> /facepalm
Kinda'. XD
Just the last line or two.
BUT. I feel like I'm getting a hold on this setup, aka, what to expect, what to not, etc.

Ugh. And no one better suggest a massclaim. That'd help the scum pick out what they want.

Nice playing with you, Chrono. ;)
I don't see how I'm limited, other than the fact that there's a massive red target on my head. :?

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:28 am
by gandalf5166
Well, if the LC's weren't oneshot they'd be a little too appealing for the cult.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:35 am
by Me=Weird
This game has succeeded in confusing me. I'm going to get some ISO's done tomorrow or so.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:46 am
by Chronopie
Andrius wrote:Nice playing with you, Chrono. ;)
I don't see how I'm limited, other than the fact that there's a massive red target on my head. :?
Hai to you too ;)

You can only check one per night. there's your limit. Oh, and everyone wants you a) on their team, or b) dead.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:52 am
by gandalf5166
I'm actually operating under the assumption that Andy has been recruited. But that doesn't mean he's a good lynch target. He's still a cop, and he's a recruited, not a recruiter.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:55 am
by ReaperCharlie
I think it's likely that Andy was recruited last night too, or at least, will be recruited (soon?).

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:56 am
by ReaperCharlie
But then, how do you account for the 2 kills last night? If they have a recruit-or-kill thing, then there would have only been one kill.

Unless there are just a bunch of loose cannons running around... *narrows eyes at ooba*

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:08 am
by gandalf5166
I think LC could possibly be a pretty common role.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:16 am
by Yosarian2
xvart wrote:I can't believe the Faraday wagon, built on nothing but hopes and dreams, is winning compared to the guy whose defense is basically a logical argument that suggests he is not the recruiter but says nothing of him being recruited and how we should not consider him because he isn't the recruiter.

xvart.
Question: how many days do you think the town can allow 2 cult recruiters to both survive and still have a reasonable chance of winning?

IMHO, The realistic answer is probably somewhere between 3 or 4. If both cult recruiters are still alive on day 5, we're talking up to 10 potential recruits; that's a worst case scenerio, but I don't really see town winning if both cult recruiters are still alive on day 5, even if we manage to lynch or vig a recruit or two before then.

So, in a 17 person game, we've got perhaps 3 chances to lynch a cult recruiter (today, tommorow, day 4) , or else town probably loses. Considering that we're talking about only 2/17 odds of hitting one if we lynch randomly today, the odds are not in our favor here, unless we get smart and put "lynching at least one cult recruiter" as our absolutely #1 priority.

Basically, looking at the numbers, I consider any argument in the form of "we shouldn't lynch X because he's probably not the recruiter" to be incredibly strong, because we don't have many chances left to lynch a cult recruiter and win. And I still don't see any likely scenerio here where ooba is a cult recruiter; the most likely scenerio here are that he's telling the truth about being a loose cannon, that he used his kill last night, and that he may or may not have been recruited at some point. If so, then we don't want to lynch him.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 12:08 pm
by ReaperCharlie
So Yos, I guess you were under the VERY STRONG impression that Furcolow was a cult recruiter yesterday?

You voted for him, in case you don't remember. In fact, you were the 4th one on a wagon of TWELVE, so you were voting for him for quite some time.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 12:53 pm
by inHimshallibe
ReaperCharlie wrote:So Yos, I guess you were under the VERY STRONG impression that Furcolow was a cult recruiter yesterday?

You voted for him, in case you don't remember. In fact, you were the 4th one on a wagon of TWELVE, so you were voting for him for quite some time.
I like your posting less and less. This just reeks of some type of trick question that RC will follow up with shoddy reasoning no matter how Yos answers.

We really need to take care of RC at some point.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 1:00 pm
by ReaperCharlie
Your powers are weak, old man.

When I left you, I was but the learner; now
I
am the master.