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Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:29 am
by Benmage
Fate wrote:You're not playing to win Benmage if town. You're not reading thread, considering other options, weighing in on points.

The fact that you even have the gall to call my playstyle less PTW than you is just fucking hilarious.

You have STILL not responded to these points:
-Why am I so vulnerable to your cult kill and have to go these lengths to get you to stop if I have cult buddies?
-Why can't you wait until N2 to murder someone who you have not announced in thread so that the night action can not be messed with by cult-ritual kills and town rez kits?
-Why are you still planning on going through with a murder that many people have said "Fate will be rez kitted" because if that is the case, then I will live and you will certainly not be confirmed town, (which is what you supposedly want?)
(Preview Edit: If my cult buddies will rez kit me, why did they not WARD me N0 when you promised to stalk me in the sign-up thread?)

-Answer the questions in my previous posts.

The fact that you refuse to do so just showcases your scumminess/terrible townplay.

Like I said at the start of all this, I will be vindicated once the flips happen as being better than you. And in the end, that's all that really matters.
Questions:
1. Wtf? I'm not cult...you mean my regular kill?
2. You somehow believe I am cult. I gave you a question. You answered. You have proven to me once more that you will tunnel town, and (based on my reads so far) buddy scum. Therefore even if your alignment is investigator(which I am doubtful about) you will be a hindrance to this game.
3. I did not know cult could ward.

END: Yep. I'm sure that is all that matters for you. Being right. Buddying your palz. Tunneling on me. Not PTW.

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:32 am
by Fate
1. NOT FROM MY GODDAMN POV YOU THINK THIS POSTURING DOES ANYTHING? AND YES YOUR "REGULAR KILL" NICE FUCKING DODGE
2. You are SUICIDAL, you haven't even READ this game in full or made any REAL commentary. WHO IS THE REAL FUCKING HINDRANCE?
3. YEAH THEY FUCKING CAN. YOU CAN USE LOGIC NOW OR WHAT?

END: Tunneling on you when you choose to do not a single pro-town thing in this game where I AM TOWN and want TOWN to win, yeah I'm playing to win. And I haven't been tunneling on you but you can misrep the facts as much as you want because that's such TOWN thing to do.
And no I'm not buddying my pals. Oddly enough this game many of my town reads are people I haven't had extensive meta with, and many of my scum reads are my buddies LIKE FUCKIN SPYREX AND REAPER

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:33 am
by Benmage
Wraith wrote:@Benmage: The cult killing Benmage would not condemn you, in fact, as I've said, the town would "confirm" you if Fate dies. Funny how this is becoming circular logic. And no, I've said I don't think you're cult. I think you're anti-town and planning to murder a townie, and probably more townies in the future.
I can't believe your willing to lynch a townie. I claimed all my actions so that it would be obvious I have zero desire to go the impossible murder route. Your blindness is the same reason people want Seacore lynched.

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:34 am
by SpyreX
ben wrote:And you can't have your cake and eat it too. Either you think I am cult, in which all your points about me waiting to kill you is null. Or you stop this fucking dicking around, and maybe I won't kill you tonight, but will choose a different target to stalk/kill.
You're done. After all the "ohh get extra bad insanities" and all the other crap the fact you'd throw this out here I'm done.

FATEEEE he's still not cult though and you know it and I'm more than a little surprised in that unhappy way you'd try to push it as that. BUT

Unvote, Vote: Benmage

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:34 am
by Seacore
Wraith wrote:
Seacore wrote:Look, Benmage is going to do whatever he's going to do,

But town have to play a long term game, and has Tom has pointed out, we're better off in the long run if we kill somebody other than Benmage, in my opinion: Reaper.

Somebody will almost certainly use a rez kit on Fate. All it takes is one rez kit to cancel out Benmage's idiocy.

Then cult are in the difficult position of trying to out guess town. Did more than one person use a rez kit? Did three? Should they gamble on two or less people using it and kill ritual fate for the effect it'll have on the game? or do they just kill somebody else, in which case Fate is still alive.
Now I see why people think you're scum. First of all, there is no guarantee one of the few people with a rez kit are going to bother rezzing Fate. In fact, based on the cult's actions during SAII, I'm willing to bet that most of the cult has a Rez Kit. And no, we're not better off in the long run. Let me put it in math:

If we don't lynch Benmage, two people are definitely going to be killed tonight (whether they live or not is up to rezzers). Benmage will kill Fate, and the cult will kill a townie. That's two dead on night one MINIMUM, not including townies who lied and are going murderer.

Now, if we lynch Benmage, one person minimum dies tonight. For people who can't (or won't) read: 2-1=1. 1 is less than 2.

In short, the cult, however many they have, can only kill ONE townie a night. If we leave a murderer (Benmage) alive, then we lose TWO people tonight. To reiterate, ONE IS LESS THAN TWO.

THis town is TRYING to drive me insane, I swear.

@Benmage: The cult killing Benmage would not condemn you, in fact, as I've said, the town would "confirm" you if Fate dies. Funny how this is becoming circular logic. And no, I've said I don't think you're cult. I think you're anti-town and planning to murder a townie, and probably more townies in the future.
Actually Wraith, a lot of people think I'm scum for pushing what you're pushing earlier today. But I've changed my mind on that, and I think far more information will come from a Reaper lynch.

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:35 am
by Fate
So yeah, since I don't want you dodging them again since I didn't make them 100% CRYSTAL CLEAR:

1. Why am I so worried about your kill if I have so many cult buddies and could easily just slip onto the Reaper wagon and be saved tonight?
2. Your suicidal insanity was FUCKING POOR CHOICE, worse than my occult books choice BY FAR. You will be left to LyLo to be lynched by scum, or (BY YOUR ADMITTANCE) lynched before D4 as a murder suspect. What makes you think I will be a hindrance based on meta-style? Does town not have the ability to take care of me if EVERYONE thinks I'm a hindrance?
Also: Not a single person besides yourself has expressed suspicion of me as cult or someone who should be killed tonight. What do you think of this?
3. Yes cult can ward, so why didn;t they ward me when you all but claimed Stalk pre-game of me? They just wanted to lose a buddy like that N1?

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:35 am
by Wraith
If Benmage thinks Fate and I are "palz" he is hilariously mistaken. I'm just the only sane man left in this town.

Predit: I'm not lynching a townie, I'm lynching a murderer-to-be.

Triple Predit: Holy crap I can't get this post in.

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:36 am
by Fate
Benmage wrote:Your blindness is the same reason people want Seacore lynched.
Benmage wrote:Your blindness is the same reason people want Seacore lynched.
Benmage wrote:Your blindness is the same reason people want Seacore lynched.
Benmage wrote:Your blindness is the same reason people want Seacore lynched.
Benmage wrote:Your blindness is the same reason people want Seacore lynched.
Benmage wrote:Your blindness is the same reason people want Seacore lynched.
Benmage wrote:Your blindness is the same reason people want Seacore lynched.
Benmage wrote:Your blindness is the same reason people want Seacore lynched.
Benmage wrote:Your blindness is the same reason people want Seacore lynched.
Benmage wrote:Your blindness is the same reason people want Seacore lynched.
Benmage wrote:Your blindness is the same reason people want Seacore lynched.
Benmage wrote:Your blindness is the same reason people want Seacore lynched.
Benmage wrote:Your blindness is the same reason people want Seacore lynched.

I THOUGHT SEACORE WAS FUCKING SCUM AND I WAS BUDDYING UP TO HIM?

HOLY FUCKJING HELL

SCUM SLIP.


WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK.


WHO IS NOT ON THIS BENMAGE LYNCH?

YOU BETTER GIVE ME REASONS.

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:36 am
by Benmage
Fate wrote:1. NOT FROM MY GODDAMN POV YOU THINK THIS POSTURING DOES ANYTHING? AND YES YOUR "REGULAR KILL" NICE FUCKING DODGE
2. You are SUICIDAL, you haven't even READ this game in full or made any REAL commentary. WHO IS THE REAL FUCKING HINDRANCE?
3. YEAH THEY FUCKING CAN. YOU CAN USE LOGIC NOW OR WHAT?

END: Tunneling on you when you choose to do not a single pro-town thing in this game where I AM TOWN and want TOWN to win, yeah I'm playing to win. And I haven't been tunneling on you but you can misrep the facts as much as you want because that's such TOWN thing to do.
And no I'm not buddying my pals. Oddly enough this game many of my town reads are people I haven't had extensive meta with, and many of my scum reads are my buddies LIKE FUCKIN SPYREX AND REAPER
1. Loud noises. You're trying to look town. Dur.
2. You tunneling on town/buddying scum vs me killing cult/lynching cult. I'm going with you has hindrance.
3. Again you are devoid of logic for somehow you believe I am cult. Do you still hold this position? :?: :?:

End: Hmm let me look, I didnt recall you calling Spy scum. Have a post or iso #?

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:37 am
by Seacore
Benmage, let me explain this to you for a second.

You are upset about getting an insanity for no reason.

Somebody is sure to rez fate, too many people have him on their town lists.
If you attempt to murder him, you will be gaining an insanity AND bloody for no reason.

Especially if you think the cult will not touch him!

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:38 am
by Benmage
Fate wrote:
Benmage wrote:Your blindness is the same reason people want Seacore lynched.

I THOUGHT SEACORE WAS FUCKING SCUM AND I WAS BUDDYING UP TO HIM?

HOLY FUCKJING HELL

SCUM SLIP.


WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK.


WHO IS NOT ON THIS BENMAGE LYNCH?

YOU BETTER GIVE ME REASONS.
Geeze I've never seen a more anti-town playstyle. I was talking to Wraith. Not you. Seacore is scum. Wraith is looking scum for the same fail logic.

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:38 am
by Wraith
BENMAGE, FATE, STOP RESPONDING OR EVEN ADDRESSING EACH OTHER. YOU'RE JUST CLUTTERING UP THE THREAD WITH STUFF WE ALREADY KNOW - THAT YOU THINK EACH OTHER ARE CULT. STEP AWAY, TAKE A BREAK, COOL OFF, COME BACK IN AN HOUR OR SO, AND THEN ADDRESS THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO WILL NEED TO READ THE 4 OR SO PAGES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN COMPILED TODAY.

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:39 am
by SpyreX
et Plummen:
My problem with you here is that you're not giving me enough in regard to you. I mean, I know your feelings about sheeping as Town. It usually doesn't include you sheeping in this way.

Your AV attack rubbed me ze wrong way. Actually now that I think about it I find it reminds me vaguely of your attack on Rhinox in the earlier stages of /Invitational Pick Your Poison 5 . . . I never understood that one, and I was your scumbuddy. With daytalk. It feels . . . forced. This is admittedly colored a bit more now with my current Townread on AV, and I know the temptation of tunnelling in a game so huge it's hard to get a grip on, but compared to a lot of stuff in the thread I'd expect you to see that the arguments you had on AV were no better and in my humble worse than plenty of other scumhunting avenues - but no, you continue to harp on AV being all 'I think Furc is Town but I'm keeping in mind that he could go Murderer and some things he's said have rubbed me the wrong way so I'll keep an eye on him but am uninterested in voting him'. When there are people whose contradictory attitudes in this arena (like the numerous people who made awkward or no transitions between 'Furc is lying scum' to 'Furc is basically confirmed Town' or awkwardly agree with neither and may be trying to subtly discredit Furc OR the people who're all 'let's lynch this guy who's probably not Cult but might go Murderer and anyway what's better than a Day 1 lynch of a true Townie who's playing somewhat anti-Town' *cough*Seacore*cough*) are clearly as questionable, you harp on this one guy no one else sees a case on. It's the early business I can't put out of my head right now.
DONT YOU DARE META THIS YOUNG LADY

AV's "Furc is trying to go murderer" business when you consider other factors *cough*Benmage*cough* is a larf - and every step of the way he went back and forth on it until it was crystal clear that it wasn't happening AND THEN he had the gall to
say
lie and say he was the first to see Furc was cleared.

THIS HASNT WENT AWAY, but no one else wants to pay attention to it now and we're 65+ damn pages in and FFFF.

And, I thought it was pretty clear from everything I've been hinting at but Seacore was a patsy for scum pushes and I STILL NEVER EVER EVER got that "why Seacore is scum" because *shock* he's still one of my better reads and it sure aint scum.

Sounds just like me when I was scum (directed at you when you were my scumbuddy, but that's peripheral - it just hurts on a gut level - feels like taking extreme care to lampshade your reads while still leaving the possibility of jumping on RC later wide open. Nice job not getting to those worries on RC and jumping on the wagon with no thoughts of your own.

This all makes me doubt the premise that I'm dealing with Town-SpyreX. In a game with this much noise I'm not seeing everything, and I may well be wrong. But I have doubts.
When he finally came down hard and fast on Fate I went "OHH SNAP, there's that RC I know". But, then we saw what came after. And before.

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:40 am
by Benmage
Seacore wrote:Benmage, let me explain this to you for a second.

You are upset about getting an insanity for no reason.

Somebody is sure to rez fate, too many people have him on their town lists.
If you attempt to murder him, you will be gaining an insanity AND bloody for no reason.

Especially if you think the cult will not touch him!
So go with that. Let me do my thing. (Whatever it may be) And tomorrow we can see what happened or didn't happen.

I mean I do enjoy this useless Spam. Can we just post "." for the next 100 pages and achieve the same? We're actually going backwards for achieving a lynch today.

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:40 am
by Seacore
Wraith wrote:
BENMAGE, FATE, STOP RESPONDING OR EVEN ADDRESSING EACH OTHER. YOU'RE JUST CLUTTERING UP THE THREAD WITH STUFF WE ALREADY KNOW - THAT YOU THINK EACH OTHER ARE CULT. STEP AWAY, TAKE A BREAK, COOL OFF, COME BACK IN AN HOUR OR SO, AND THEN ADDRESS THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO WILL NEED TO READ THE 4 OR SO PAGES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN COMPILED TODAY.
QFT

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:41 am
by Benmage
SpyreX wrote:
ben wrote:And you can't have your cake and eat it too. Either you think I am cult, in which all your points about me waiting to kill you is null. Or you stop this fucking dicking around, and maybe I won't kill you tonight, but will choose a different target to stalk/kill.
You're done. After all the "ohh get extra bad insanities" and all the other crap the fact you'd throw this out here I'm done.

FATEEEE he's still not cult though and you know it and I'm more than a little surprised in that unhappy way you'd try to push it as that. BUT

Unvote, Vote: Benmage
I know you're cult. I forgive you.

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:41 am
by Fate
1. PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY CALLED ME OBVTOWN BEFORE I MADE THIS CASE. IT WAS UNNECESSARY FOR ME TO GO THIS FAR AS CULT WHEN I ALREADY AM IN NICE SAFE POSITION DAY WISE, AND NIGHT WISE I WOULD E SAFE WITH MY BUDDIES WITH THEIR KITS.
2. I ALREADY POINTED OUT YOUR SLIP IN WHICH YOU REFERENCE THE SEACORE LYNCH AS A MISLYNCH, AND SINCE HE IS THE "SCUM" I AM BUDDYING WITH, LOLU.
3. DEFLECT/DODGE NICE ONE. YES I BELIEVE YOU ARE CULT AND YOU DODGING/DEFLECTING/IGNORING ALL POINTS MADE AGAINST YOU MAKE IT ALL THE MORE LIKELY.
Benmage, let me explain this to you for a second.

You are upset about getting an insanity for no reason.

Somebody is sure to rez fate, too many people have him on their town lists.
If you attempt to murder him, you will be gaining an insanity AND bloody for no reason.

Especially if you think the cult will not touch him!
Benmage, let me explain this to you for a second.

You are upset about getting an insanity for no reason.

Somebody is sure to rez fate, too many people have him on their town lists.
If you attempt to murder him, you will be gaining an insanity AND bloody for no reason.

Especially if you think the cult will not touch him!Benmage, let me explain this to you for a second.

You are upset about getting an insanity for no reason.

Somebody is sure to rez fate, too many people have him on their town lists.
If you attempt to murder him, you will be gaining an insanity AND bloody for no reason.

Especially if you think the cult will not touch him!
EXCELLENT POINT SIR. THIS IS-AGAIN-WHY SEACORE IS OBVTOWN.

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:41 am
by Benmage
Seacore wrote:
Wraith wrote:
BENMAGE, FATE, STOP RESPONDING OR EVEN ADDRESSING EACH OTHER. YOU'RE JUST CLUTTERING UP THE THREAD WITH STUFF WE ALREADY KNOW - THAT YOU THINK EACH OTHER ARE CULT. STEP AWAY, TAKE A BREAK, COOL OFF, COME BACK IN AN HOUR OR SO, AND THEN ADDRESS THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO WILL NEED TO READ THE 4 OR SO PAGES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN COMPILED TODAY.
QFT
QFTsquared.

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:43 am
by VasudeVa
FATE HAS SPOKEN TO MY HEART. I ONLY REQUEST FATE TO FIND IT IN HIS HEART TO HELP ME LYNCH MOISCUM D2.

Vote: Benmage

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:44 am
by Fate
You have my campaign promise VV.

At the request of two sane townies, I will now be leaving this thread for hours to mindlessly kill Zerg and nuke the hell out of some pylons.

Carry on well my brethren.

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:51 am
by Furcolow
Baby Spice wrote:
Furcolow wrote: he REALLY is posting less
You do realise Furc that yourself, Fate, and Benmage have made about a third of the posts in the game right?
You do understand that spamming like that makes all of the other players post counts seem low right?
Are you willing to redo your little arguement if you remove those top three posters and recalculate?
no. i was in harry potter mafia, so that variable remains for both scum games.
removing it from this one would mean removing it from that one as well

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:52 am
by Wraith
Thank God some sense is starting to permeate the town. I was afraid I'd have to get a power drill to bore into thick skulls.

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:52 am
by Furcolow
totallynotmafia wrote:If BM is cult then we'll lynch him tomorrow after he fails to make an attempted murder on you. We're not lynching him today.
cult would res fate if fatecult
bentown would then get lynched and mislynched
fatecult would then get lynched d3
we could resolve this now, it is actually valid
if bentown today then lynch fatecult tomorrow on d2, a day earlier than we would

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:54 am
by hitogoroshi
Fate wrote:My stances on Reaper have been made clear. In contrast to Benmage I think that Ben's motivations are far more cult-like than Reaper's. I was just producing a wagon counter to Reaper's for all those unhappy with that wagon.
I want everyone in the town to play a game. It's called "Read Fate's ISO pages five and six." Look at that ReaperCharlie hate. There's wagons, there's ragecaps, the works. Then look at his case on Benmage. Whoops! That's not actually a thing! Because he says FUCK ALL about Benmage, and his posts before that suggest that he thinks Benmage is an investigator (particularly his fears that Benmage will still murder him tonight).

The ReaperCharlie case was starting to look delicious. I figured I owed it to him to at least do an involved wagon analysis to assuage my doubts about it's dubious beginnings before I voted for him. I was about to dig in - and suddenly here's Fate with the switcheroo. He's selling us bullshit and telling us it's ice cream cake. But I went to Dairy Queen and wouldn't you know it, they don't have any Benmage Cult there. And the really goddamn weird thing is, Fate had just spent two pages of ISO telling us about this great RC Cult cake that actually WAS cake.

So I was thinking - why?

The answer sounds a little insane, but hear me out. I think RC and Fate are scumbuddies.

ISO 94, Fate pings RC. He hits a lot of people on that list. Scuffles with RC a bit, and then votes in ISO 101. I especially love the line "well if you're gonna make it VIABLE", or, as I chose to interpret it, "well if you're gonna HOLD ME ACCOUNTABLE FOR MY FAKE SUSPICION."
Fate 112 wrote:How many times has Reaper said "I LOVE THIS POST" to people? I bet every single one (sans one or two, NOPOINT'S in particular felt forced as NOPOINT didn't really make ag reat first impression) of his early ones are CONFTOWN on a ReaperScumFlip.
For posterity.

ISO 123, Fate hops over to Plum because of history involving another game that he thinks will look plausible. Unfortunately, we call him out on it and in ISO 127 he's back on.

And Fate plays the part well. So well, in fact, that when he first switched to Benmage I figured a Fate scumflip would confirm Reaper as town. But then I realized that a.) that's exactly the effect Fate knows a strong case like this would have and b.) that still doesn't explain why he switched.

Let's look at that beautiful switch, shall we?

Here's Fate's last post on Reaper, ISO 148. He's still on the Reaper wagon as hard as ever. It's currently sitting at L-5. But then, something happens. Something
magicial.


Furpants_Tom's 1446.

That right there is a delicious, wonderful post. That's the post that put me firmly in the Reaper-is-cult camp. And it put him to L-4. About a page later, Wraith puts him to L-3.

This wagon is out of Fate's control, now. And if Fate was being truthful about his suspicion on RC, that'd be awesome! This day has gone on far too long (Fate expressed a desire to finish D1 in less than 50 pages) and look, that guy you spent dozens of posts calling for the lynch of is getting lynched. This is NOT awesome if Fate and RC are scumbuddies, though, because then Fate no longer has control over the wagon. He's gotta hit the brakes or this bus is gonna go all the way.

Guess which one happens?
Fate wrote:
Unvote
Vote: Benmage


I will have a rally-esque post tonight on why this is the best move. What kind of rally?
The Rally to Restore Sanity


It will be epic.

It will be awe-inspiring.

And most of all, it will be convincing.


RC nay-sayers look out, the real alternate viable is coming tonight to a forum near you.

Peace, I'm on my way to the actual rally to prepare the mood.
Poor Fate. You're going to the rally, so you don't have the time to push this counter-wagon! As a compromise, he makes sure to immediately unvote and loudly proclaim that a counter-wagon is coming. This pretty much stops the RC wagon in it's tracks. Here's the thing, though -
why the hemorrhaging fuck
are you looking to create a viable alternative to the RC wagon? If you think the people wagoning RC are town, then the people on the sidelines have a lot of scum in their ranks. Why exactly are you appealing to THEM?

A lot of people (myself included, before this Benmage fiasco) had Fate on their townlists. If Benmage didn't murder him, well golly gee, Fate had a decent chance of making it to endgame. That would be why he tried to disarm the knife pointing at his heart with 1516. I don't understand why everyone thinks that 1516 is a good case. It's bringing up a bunch of old shit from the days when Fate's read was "Ben is a town clown." The same posts that first lead Fate to believe he had to stop Benmage murdering him suddenly read cult. It tries too hard.

But I mean...ReaperCharlie? Who the hell is that guy? He's gone - and golly gee, what a good time to not show up so Fate can tactfully ignore your existence as long as possible. But hey, no one is talking about RC, so GAWSH I guess we gotta lynch Benmage now huh?

No. We are hopping the fuck back on the ReaperCharlie wagon. Fate, if you're actually a townie, you're coming with. Your Benmage case is skeevy as hell and Ben is much, much less likely cult than RC. The fact that as town you'd have to not see this makes me think the chance is kinda slim, but there you go.

Let's roll, kids.

Vote:ReaperCharlie

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:56 am
by Trilobite
Ojanen head here, actually delving knee deep to the mountain of catching up.
I'm vaguely aware of the current situation. I was cut by about 20 million posts. FATE should stop being ridiculous. Benmage cult is total tinfoil hat stuff. We've had enough fluff between you too. No matter what rhetorics you're gonna pull Fate, there's no chance you can find 15 people silly enough to lynch Ben today. I bet you couldn't even get many from the cult on, they'd know how bad they'd look.

I'm about 20 pages behind in chronologically reading this... but I just caught up about ten and have to say I don't like that Reaper is apparently close to being lynched.
I don't like anything of the earlier stages of the wagon I've seen so far, the only possibly genuinely scummy point could be meta and that's because I've never played with RC and thus can't judge the meta. But I'm not expecting Reaper to flip cult.
I think the rule mixup was used as starting point to actually gathering the votes. This one:
RC 1004 wrote:Wait, I thought the Cult could kill each night regardless of stalking.
Fetishes give people extra insanities, and the Ritual kills 'em, right?
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.
I doubt it was intentional. Reaper had been asking the question about what if Ben (who hasn't heard noise) wakes up dead and it's consistent to that. It would have had to be a longer setup if intentional. My impression about his posts is that it's believable he was missing the questions and forgetting quite quickly what he had been posting. Obv he deflected the hydra-contradiction question intentionally at first, but he was being too obvious about it to seem scummy/bothered by it. It's like people were accusing him of trying to appear pro-town by loudly exclaiming to be pro-town. But noone (except maybe Furcolow <3) who is trying to appear pro-town thinks that merely repeating I AM AWESOME, I AM TOWN actually makes people believe that.
Anyway, I think the rule mixup was more likely genuine and that in itself makes him more likely investigator.

I expect El Goosuki to be prob town btw. When DGB's town, I agree with a significant percentage of her one liner calls and their timings and I'm getting that here.

Something that makes me scratch my head about Triglav is that it's composed of Adel, Rampage, Zorblag and Ythan and yet their posts strike me as written nothing like the first three's style of thinking. I don't know Ythan and I was assuming he was writing up all the posts but then there was a reference to different heads writing different posts. Feels almost silly to ask but guys, are you
really
those four people?
Anyway I haven't been able to read them so far, very impenetrable.

Also, my No. 1 Scum Suspect is MoI, which is what I really wanna get to. Will have a separate post about him today.

Oj