SMBM II: Defense of Yoshi's Island (Final! MVPs announced!)

[warriormode]

where in the hell is everyone else?

[David Xanatos]

VOTE: Vifam

Didn't notice thread was open.

[Xeras]

I would vote for Vifam, but I am not sure how far he is from lynch. I want to give him some sort of opportunity to explain.

[chkflip]

Five votes on Vifam. Eight to lynch IIRC. Still working on my PM stuff, just got finished wishing my Pops a happy 53rd.

[manho]

vote: vifam

[chkflip]

That's L-2, guys. I know we're super gung-ho about lynching Vifam but he may have seriously just mixed something up. I'm really not down for speedlynching anything regardless, we need to discuss things as a whole before we just start lynching at random.

We, as a town, aren't doing all that great.

[implosion]

Hello.

So a few things that would be really nice to get quick answers to:

What are the buttons for/what do they do/has anything been figured out about them?
Why was warriormode supposed to die? Like, what did Vifam claim that would make it happen? Is Vifam confirmed scum?
What's the case on Sunset? My 2-minute read of them makes me think they're town.

[warriormode]

That's L-2, guys. I know we're super gung-ho about lynching Vifam but he may have seriously just mixed something up. I'm really not down for speedlynching anything regardless, we need to discuss things as a whole before we just start lynching at random.

We, as a town, aren't doing all that great.

I definitely agree with you about one thing.
We don't need to quick-lynch vifam, its worth hearing what he has to say (be ready for lie #4 lol).
He has yet to say anything today, so it would be nice to hear at least one thing from him.

However, this is definitely not a random lynch.
We caught him lying 3 times now, town don't do that.
We definitely need to lynch him today.

[warriormode]

Hello.

So a few things that would be really nice to get quick answers to:

What are the buttons for/what do they do/has anything been figured out about them?
Why was warriormode supposed to die? Like, what did Vifam claim that would make it happen? Is Vifam confirmed scum?
What's the case on Sunset? My 2-minute read of them makes me think they're town.

I can definitely answer my part of the question.
I was supposed to die because vifam claimed paratroops counter-attacker. If you ISO him you can see his role claim.
He basically kills people who visit him the next night. He claimed that I visited him N2 and therefore Im supposed N3.
All of D2 I was saying that he's lying-scum because I didn't visit him. And since I'm still alive, it pretty much confirms that he's lying scum.
But, were waiting for him to say something.

[Isa]

My main issue with this is that his lies, if they are lies, were unprovoked and have little scum motivation.

IDK. No way that I am voting him yet though.

Still want people to explain their reasons for stupidlynching Projectmatt.

[manho]

Hello.

So a few things that would be really nice to get quick answers to:

What are the buttons for/what do they do/has anything been figured out about them?
Why was warriormode supposed to die? Like, what did Vifam claim that would make it happen? Is Vifam confirmed scum?
What's the case on Sunset? My 2-minute read of them makes me think they're town.

scum fishing?

[manho]

^that was directed to the first question.

[warriormode]

My main issue with this is that his lies, if they are lies, were unprovoked and have little scum motivation.

IDK. No way that I am voting him yet though.

Still want people to explain their reasons for stupidlynching Projectmatt.

What do you mean "if"?
he definitely lied.
Explain to me how this isn't scum motivated?

[TheJakalope]

Because the Vifam case is built around sunset as well, I'm fine with lynching either today.

[manho]

no, vifam is scum for lying, not any case around sunset.

[implosion]

Hello.

So a few things that would be really nice to get quick answers to:

What are the buttons for/what do they do/has anything been figured out about them?
Why was warriormode supposed to die? Like, what did Vifam claim that would make it happen? Is Vifam confirmed scum?
What's the case on Sunset? My 2-minute read of them makes me think they're town.

scum fishing?

How is it fishing to ask every person in the game for whatever background info is publicly available on a 60-page game?

[Isa]

My main issue with this is that his lies, if they are lies, were unprovoked and have little scum motivation.

IDK. No way that I am voting him yet though.

Still want people to explain their reasons for stupidlynching Projectmatt.

What do you mean "if"?
he definitely lied.
Explain to me how this isn't scum motivated?

Most probably yes. He was a biiiig town read of mine prior to today so naturally I am a bit torn.

[warriormode]

My main issue with this is that his lies, if they are lies, were unprovoked and have little scum motivation.

IDK. No way that I am voting him yet though.

Still want people to explain their reasons for stupidlynching Projectmatt.

What do you mean "if"?
he definitely lied.
Explain to me how this isn't scum motivated?

Most probably yes. He was a biiiig town read of mine prior to today so naturally I am a bit torn.

so vifam and PM were clearly not scum reads to you... where are your scum reads? or all your reads?

[manho]

Hello.

So a few things that would be really nice to get quick answers to:

What are the buttons for/what do they do/has anything been figured out about them?
Why was warriormode supposed to die? Like, what did Vifam claim that would make it happen? Is Vifam confirmed scum?
What's the case on Sunset? My 2-minute read of them makes me think they're town.

scum fishing?

How is it fishing to ask every person in the game for whatever background info is publicly available on a 60-page game?

i don't think it is public information. haven't read the thread?

[Isa]

WMode - read my iso. Sunset, David Xanatos, WLC. Yesterday, you as well. Today...well, I see no way that Vifam won't get lynched, and I'll base my read on you upon that. You may be immune to night kills, I don't know.

And everyone on the PM wagon in general has big signs on their backs that says "I MADE THE SCUMDRIVEN WAGON POSSIBLE WITHOUT A CASE, AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY T-SHIRT".

[Kcdaspot]

I pushed his lynch because I saw NOTHING but AtE out the ass.

I put forward a case. He even seemed to scum claim in his last few posts.

I was morbidly wrong. tis why i'm going to put less forward today.

Where sunset and why has he not commented on votes on him?

[Sunset]

LOL. You serious bro?

[manho]

Since our Lord Bowser is too busy to make the votecount when pm was lynched, i'll do it myself.

Spoiler: All vote/unvote since the last votecount from Bowser

3.1 (About a week left)

Sunset [L-8] Isa
Vifam [L-7] WLC, warriormode
>projectmatt [L-4] Kcdaspot, chkflip, TheJakalope, hiplop, DemonHybrid
WLC [L-8] projectmatt
Celebloki [L-8] manho
manho [L-8] Xeras

With 17 stirring about, it's 9 to lynch, and 5 to lynch at deadline. The ">" next to a person's name signifies the lynch if the counter below expires.

(expired on 2011-10-09 14:09:00)

Hmm, that Vifam/wm scenario kinda makes sense to wait, but I'd still feel comfortable enough lynching Vifam today. But okay.

My other main suspects are manho, and either one of projectmatt/kcdaspot (of these two I think if one is scum, other is town, vice versa). At this point I feel manho's play is sometimes opportunistic.

Unvote. Vote: manho.

@manho, are you voting Celeb just because of lurking, or for another reason as well?

Sigh...

Unvote

maybe we can get a counter-wagon on David Xanatos.

unvote, vote: David Xanatos

No WTF

Vote: Vifam

Vifam still hasn't answered all my questions.

Not switching til he's dead.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: David Xanatos

VOTE: ProjectMatt


I just want to get to D4 so I can see delicious scum death.

His voting history, his potential distancing in said history, the flip-floppy reads. There are plenty of reasons to lynch Matt.

ISO him.

Nah, right now I think you're bullshitting scum unless you can give me ONE bit of information it would give you for me to flip town, and how the hell you think flip-flopping is a scum tell. And "voting history" is just bad.

hiplop
ive got nothing

Yeah, I know. It's just pissing me off that I'm getting lynched for no reason at all.

eh this post reads as townie to me... i actually can see CHK scum here.

UNVOTE: VOTE: CHK

we really don't learn ANYTHING from pm death, and CHK is trying to push his lynch or an "information" reason.
CHK, or sunset will be the only people I vote today

Oh and xanatos too

VOTE: ProjectMatt


I just want to get to D4 so I can see delicious scum death.

Unvote. Vote: Vifam

Screw the scenario's, I think Vifam is scum.

hiplop and Matt is good lynches. David/Celebloki/whoever not posting is also OK, but I would prefer hiplop or Matt.

~J

im confirmed town though


VOTE: SUNSET

Can we please end this guy?

gr.

fine

VOTE: PM

sorryy man

VOTE: projectmatt

I wanna be cool too.

~J

VOTE: Projectmatt

Can't get a better prod-dodge than one that sends us into night really. Giggles.

Really though. He's right. There were a lot of people defending him for almost no reason.. and no matter the flip, those people should be looked at closely. If he flips Scum, they should be looked at through a scope though..

Black Yoshi? Really? And you had that much information from the mod without knowing your ability?

No way he's town. And if he is it's just sad.

~J

Yeah. I don't believe he is the black yoshi.

Ah. And if I counted right he is still at L-1.

Vote: ProjectMatt

But... not anymore. ;D

Black Yoshi? Really? And you had that much information from the mod without knowing your ability?

No way he's town. And if he is it's just sad.

~J

Yeah. I don't believe he is the black yoshi.

Ah. And if I counted right he is still at L-1.

Vote: ProjectMatt

But... not anymore. ;D

Hammer.

Votecount when projectmatt was lynch:

Vifam [L-7] warrior, WLC
projectmatt [L-0] Kcdaspot, chkflip, TheJakalope, DemonHybrid, vifam, hiplop, sunset, DX, xeras
WLC [L-8] projectmatt
DX[L-7] manho, isa

we can investigate the wagon now.

[WeyounsLastClone]

That's L-2, guys. I know we're super gung-ho about lynching Vifam but he may have seriously just mixed something up. I'm really not down for speedlynching anything regardless, we need to discuss things as a whole before we just start lynching at random.

We, as a town, aren't doing all that great.

Wow, you almost make me want to change my vote. The 'as a town' is the brilliant part.

[manho]

@Lord Bowser, can we have the replacement indicated in the opening post?