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Post Post #1600 (ISO) » Sun May 06, 2012 9:45 pm

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Nero Cain wrote:So you think scum don't replace out?


No.

There are, however, reasons for which town are more likely to replace out than scum (in my opinion).
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Post Post #1601 (ISO) » Sun May 06, 2012 10:00 pm

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And I've heard this theory before...I actually agree with it to an extent...scum replace out too though and there are 16 original players left in the game. Are we all scum since we didn't replace out? That's why this is null to me. I'm not willing to give an auto town read based on a replace out. I rather base it on SC's actions/words. So you think the other 3 slots are town BWO replacement too?
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Post Post #1602 (ISO) » Sun May 06, 2012 10:03 pm

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The other "replace-outs" were not revealing as the alignment of any of the slots. The fact that you would ask that means you are either scum or didn't understand my point to begin with.
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Post Post #1603 (ISO) » Sun May 06, 2012 10:08 pm

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nope, same thing. They obviously didn't care enough about this game to stay in it. That's no less apathetic than GI was.
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Post Post #1604 (ISO) » Sun May 06, 2012 10:17 pm

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They didn't replace out right after someone said a "bad word". I realise that I didn't properly express my reasoning for thinking GreyIce town. I have replaced into scum slots, so I obviously know that scum replace out too, but I don't think someone such as GreyIce would have RedFF's "word" be the turning point nor do I think he would have justified his replace out in such a way that I could easily relate to as scum.
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Post Post #1605 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 12:39 am

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Oh yeah I have a townread on that slot solely from GreyICE replacing out.
we got purple actavis i thought it was a drought!
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Post Post #1606 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 12:57 am

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Nero Cain wrote:Are we all scum since we didn't replace out?

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Post Post #1607 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 2:38 am

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Is drmyshottyizsik usually this useless?
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Post Post #1608 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 4:50 am

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Nero Cain wrote:null, though he gets some scumpoints for his crappy vig kill theory. Though I wasn't accusing you of being scum. I was simply stating what his theory was. This is still not the town Jun I'm used to and Kdowns is lurking horribly so perhaps Mastin was on the right track afterall.

Alright, I was just making sure you're being consistent. If you're buying into the 2 3-scum teams theory that mastin2 pushed, then redFF should be anywhere on your townlist.

Also, calling kdowns a lurker is a little premature as there is a lot of reading to get caught up. However he should check in soon and let us know how he's progressing.

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I'll take it as a compliment that the same guy who thinks apathy is a towntell thinks that I'm scum in this game. Your theory of "town are more likely to replace out" is so horrible and wrong that it actually hurts town. Flaking or replacing out is
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Post Post #1609 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 5:11 am

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Code_X wrote:Is drmyshottyizsik usually this useless?

Is Code_X usually this useless?
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Post Post #1610 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 5:17 am

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You going to back that statement up with facts.
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Post Post #1611 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 5:20 am

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Vote: Mastin2
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Post Post #1612 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 5:34 am

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Code_X wrote:You going to back that statement up with facts.

You going to back up yours?
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Post Post #1613 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 5:50 am

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Code_X wrote:Is drmyshottyizsik usually this useless?

yes

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Nero Cain wrote:null, though he gets some scumpoints for his crappy vig kill theory. Though I wasn't accusing you of being scum. I was simply stating what his theory was. This is still not the town Jun I'm used to and Kdowns is lurking horribly so perhaps Mastin was on the right track afterall.

Alright, I was just making sure you're being consistent. If you're buying into the 2 3-scum teams theory that mastin2 pushed, then redFF should be anywhere on your townlist.

Also, calling kdowns a lurker is a little premature as there is a lot of reading to get caught up. However he should check in soon and let us know how he's progressing.

3 man scum teams seem all the rage these days so its believable. Am I correct in assuming that you meant "then redFF should
NOT?
be anywhere on your townlist."

I can see your point about Kdowns but on the flipside none of codeX, AH, GI, SC or fakegod spent time posting around the rest of the site before getting active here. That said fakegod has still yet to catch up and needs to do so and post meaningful content here asap.
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Post Post #1614 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 6:12 am

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Lib, mastin seems alot more plausible right now. But I'd love to switch.
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Post Post #1615 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 6:44 am

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redFF wrote:
Code_X wrote:You going to back that statement up with facts.

You going to back up yours?


Yeah sure.

In 65 pages he's voted Nero and yourself. He's yet to comment on 75% of the players. He's yet to contribute anything of note and yet to actively give a proper opinion on anyone. Though he's not the only one by any means.

Just curious really whether he is usually like this so I know if the votes on him are with merit or purely just picking on an easy target.
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Post Post #1616 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 6:47 am

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He's usually useless and unreadable like this.
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Post Post #1617 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 6:52 am

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Nero Cain wrote:He's usually useless and unreadable like this.


Are we talking about Benmage? He does have a scummy award, after all ...

You people need to lynch Junpei. (Although tbh we're really just cycling between 3 and 4 targets, all of whom are fine, but Junpei seems like the strongest scumread here)

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Post Post #1618 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 6:55 am

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no, we were talking about Shotty though Ben is being pretty useless this game.
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Post Post #1619 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 7:31 am

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To make it easier to find in ISO.


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(as of Post 1549)



mastin2 (5)
- Pine, Junpei, DeasVail, StrangerCoug, Benmage
Junpei (3)
- mastin2, HezLucky, Kublai Kahn
Pine (2)
- Maxous, scooby
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- drmyshottyizsik
drmyshottyizsik (2)
- The Mini-Librarian, Lady Lambdadelta
The Mini-Librarian (1)
- Nero Cain
Firestarter (1)
- redFF
DeasVail (1)
- Psyche


Not Voting (5)
- Firestarter, FakeGod, kdowns, Code_X, drmyshotgun

With 21 alive, it takes 11 to lynch


Deadline:
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Replacing:

Firestarter

Prods:



V/LAs:

PeregrineV May 6


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Post Post #1620 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 7:32 am

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Vote Count 2-6

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mastin2 (6)
- Pine, Junpei, DeasVail, StrangerCoug, Benmage, Code_X
Junpei (4)
- mastin2, HezLucky, Kublai Kahn, Lady Lambdadelta
Pine (2)
- Maxous, scooby
redFF (1)
- drmyshottyizsik
drmyshottyizsik (1)
- The Mini-Librarian
The Mini-Librarian (1)
- Nero Cain
Firestarter (1)
- redFF
DeasVail (1)
- Psyche


Not Voting (5)
- Firestarter, FakeGod, kdowns, drmyshotgun

With 21 alive, it takes 11 to lynch


Deadline:
Thursday, May 11, 2012 3pm CST


Replacing:

Firestarter

Prods:

Maxous
Pine
kdowns
scooby

V/LAs:

Mastin May 9
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Post Post #1621 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 10:00 am

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Post Post #1622 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 10:20 am

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I've seen like the entire scum team replacing out. And that was my second completed game. So, Deasvail's Scums =/= Replace Out theory, is invalid.

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Post Post #1623 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 10:23 am

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We need to vote someone... if we don't get a majority we get no lynch. All aboard Mastin.

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Post Post #1624 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 10:35 am

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But Mastin contributes more than Pine, no?

I'll see later on.
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