Micro 158: borkgame (Game Over)

[Jake from State Farm]

@ rach - you have been fencesitting on Var's alignment all game. Why now are you giving intent to hammer?

unvote

[RachMarie]

cause it seems to be the will of the town and no one seems to pursue Jen and Arc...

plus I wanted to hold the hammer to make sure Var got his final words... I dont trust some of the players not to go in and hammer...

[Selkies]

Rach why didn't you add your vote to mine on ArcAngel?

[Selkies]

All this talk about Jen being scum. Where was your vote? When the Jen wagon softened you could have shored it up if you feel this strongly.

And ArcAngel went into your scumpile almost immediately (based on her behavior re Jen's wagon), and yet no vote even after I put one down.

Do the stars have to align or something before you vote someone you think is scummy?

DGB is who I have my vote on... waiting for Varsson to come back and answer our question about games... I know Icebox gave something plausible on that, but so far Varsoon's personality does not seem the type to do that... So yeah not sure on Varsson

Think DGB and Jen are prob scum...

The whole thing with Sven still bugs me though I think it is a playstyle thing with him not an alignment thing.

I am not liking arc's responses with the Jen wagon... The asking about our un CCed PR also bugs me. It sounds like she is trying to guage if there is enough peeps that don't believe the claim sos she can get a lynch going...

geez I wake up to this...

@ Arc I was not talking about Jen there I was talking about you asking others if they believed in SELKIES claim just to make sure it is clear.

@ Jen WTF Calling out a scum team before a flip is an action in futility.

head shaking here over Sven rage quitting like that.... Especially since at the time Jiffy was the only one putting any pressure on him.

More later after coffee,...

wow how did that happen lol...

Jiffy I know you are set on Sven, but yeah slot will be replaced and maybe the replacement will clarify it.

I really think that Jen is scum...

I also think there is a good possibility that Arc could be scum too...

Varsoon still has never answered my question and I am sure it got lost in the plethora of posts since then.

I think Selkies and Jiffy are town.

DId I miss anyone?

umm dont think any of the laides did lol Bork the mod is a dude, and I think Varsoon is one too....

Welcome to the game Jake...


So fery do you and Orc think it could be a scum team of Arc and Jen ? or if not which one is more likely? I could see a team with though, though until we get a flip its really iffy trying to figure out scum buds, but the fact that as soon as I put some pressure on her, suddenly Arc votes me... Like she was planning on bussing her bud then decided to see if she could revive my wagon again as a counter wagon...

So Jiffy still think the Sven (now Jake) slot is scum?

Meanwhile I am willing to give Jake time to better sort out that slot... Still focused on Jen and Arc for now..

[RachMarie]

I was getting to that point but do you think we can get a consensus? Why switch over to Var?

BTW had to go lay down and get my antibiotic drops in my ears have to have them in twice a day...

read up on side effects from bipap machines yeah figures congestion is one of the major ones but since my BP is up doc wont let me have my Sudafed;;;

I know I am not much help here... but my head is totally pounding and it feels like someone is jamming an ice pick into my ear drum... and so far the Vicodin is doing NOTHING... plus NS has to call the doc in the morning to find out if they rescheduled my ENT appt or if I still have it got a confirmation auto message that said something about one on the 21st and I am like huh?? The ear infection is of course in the ear I wear a hearing aid in

So yeah not really able to focus much...

Wait I thought I had voted Jen???

VOTE: Jen

[Jake from State Farm]

cause it seems to be the will of the town and no one seems to pursue Jen and Arc...

plus I wanted to hold the hammer to make sure Var got his final words... I dont trust some of the players not to go in and hammer...

so you settled with us not being close to deadline?

that mini blitz seemed bad, my only issue is, would rachScum give intent to hammer like that? seems lke putting a big target on her back.

[Jake from State Farm]

ok anyway my laptop is about to die

I think majiffy's vote is crap too

[RachMarie]

ehh only time I did not give intent to hammer and it cost us the game (I still feel bad for mucking up Robs perfect scum record on that), was cause I did not realize dude was at L-1 when I replaced in.

I will put it clearer terms

From Town to Scum in order

Selkies (un CCed PR claim)
Majiffy (follow the flow chart and overall feels like his town game style)
Jake who replaced Sven eeeh still a tad odd on this one but kinda leaning Town
Var (has done some scummy things, but he is a newbie, though he never DID answer my question)
Arc... The whole testing the waters thingy on the PR claim and trying to start a counter wagon and so on.
Jen. most scummy

[Majiffy]

VOTE: RachMarie

Not liking 1604.

[Majiffy]

ehh only time I did not give intent

to hammer and

it cost us the game

(I still

feel bad for mucking up Robs perfect scum record

on that), was cause I did not realize dude was at L-1 when I replaced in.

[Jake from State Farm]

Selkies claimed PGO right? who the hell is going to cc that?

[Majiffy]

Does seem an odd thing to cc. Then again I don't particularly see why you

couldn't

or

shouldn't

.

[Selkies]

I think calling us conftown or something would be a mistake.

[Majiffy]

Can we talk about how Rach's deterrent to hammering without a claim is her loss as

scum

?

[Selkies]

You think that was a slip?

[Majiffy]

In combination with her AtE in 1604 after recent success regarding her medical situation and the amount of pressure levied on her, yes. 1604 looks manufactured, and 1607 looks like a scum motivation slip.

[Selkies]

Hi, still busy, sorry.

Majiffy is the biggest scum-driven wagon right now and I would like to make it clear that he is solidly in my town pile

I'm not quite sure what you mean by townhunting, but yes, sometimes I do work primarily with finding townreads than scum ones. how is that scummy exactly?

i find it brutally hilarious that Varsoon calls Majiffy out for using all caps, when Varsoon votes us 5 times in the same post. Also I find it funny how he doesn't bother to address the points we bring up on him being scum. At all.

My reads, independent of fery's, are as follows, t->s

Town Pile
Majiffy
Rach

Null to Scum spectrum
AA9 (does scummy shit all day long as either alignment)
Jennifer (probably scum because of how much her reads differ and her general lack of involvement. And she's not scumreading varsoon)

Varsoon


Sven is pinging my radar in all sorts of funny places. He's done some townie things, like his freakout over our PGO claim, and then the next moment he's posting ridiculous posts that are basically crying to fery "WHY AREN'T YOU TOWNREADING ME". I think he's scum, but I'm not willing to lynch him due to my trust in Fery and DGB.

But Varsoon really,

really

needs to go today.

Pedit:

jesus fuck.

why are you asking jennifer to claim

DO NOT. CLAIM. JENNIFER.

fucking hell sven wtf

VOTE: Selkies
I don't believe a word that is coming from this hydra. She/he titled Jennifer as scum and telling her to not to claim.
And accused me about my alignment, sounding like they know what is my alignment is. This talk can one come from scums mouth.

I feel like there were a lot of these posts flying around and I never got to answer them.

I think Jennifer is NLS, not scum. If it was Varsoon claiming I would be fine with it. But not Jennifer, not at this time.

I fucking /hate/ it when people try to flush out claims for no reason. What sven did was absolutely terrible if he were town. He literally told Jennifer to claim so he could

unvote

. This is not a town motivation.

Town motivation for asking for a claim is to ascertain a person's alignment when that person has enough of a likelihood of being lynched that their claim will come to no cost to town. Scum motivation for asking for a claim is to flush out claims out of town to know where the PRs are.

My motivation for calling Jennifer not to claim stems from the ideas that
1). The way Sven called for it was scummy as hell
2). It was a premature claim with no intent to hammer
3). I didn't feel comfortable enough with the Jennifer lynch and I'm not sure enough people in town were

Just because I feel like somebody has a high probability of being scum doesn't mean I automatically want them to claim. That would be stupid and anti-town.

I also feel like this method of accusing me is forced as hell.

[Selkies]

^^ That was Orcinus if it's not obvious

- f

[borkjerfkin]

I fucking /hate/ it when people try to flush out claims for no reason. What sven did was absolutely terrible if he were town. He literally told Jennifer to claim so he could

unvote

. This is not a town motivation.

Clarification: not counting this as a selkies unvote.

[Selkies]

......

[Selkies]

In combination with her AtE in 1604 after recent success regarding her medical situation and the amount of pressure levied on her, yes. 1604 looks manufactured, and 1607 looks like a scum motivation slip.

Her intent to hammer post obviously bothered the shit out of me and the replies to my posts were not exactly soothing.

This time it's orcinus who has both the town read and the meta. I'm deferring to him.

- f

[Majiffy]

Ok can someone PLEASE tell me what the fuck NLS is, pretty sure I asked before but I don't think I ever got an answer.

[Selkies]

null leaning scum

(I had to ask too)

- f

[Majiffy]

In combination with her AtE in 1604 after recent success regarding her medical situation and the amount of pressure levied on her, yes. 1604 looks manufactured, and 1607 looks like a scum motivation slip.

Her intent to hammer post obviously bothered the shit out of me and the replies to my posts were not exactly soothing.

This time it's orcinus who has both the town read and the meta. I'm deferring to him.

- f

You guys are killing me. Now I know how it must feel to deal with me and Mollie.

[Majiffy]

Ah