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In post 1599, Belisarius wrote:Not 100% confirmed, no, but it would make more

sense

for scumSelkies to go for the win instead of bussing.

Apart from that Iece was scummiest than GB and it was obviously one versus one.

Working up a VCA post.
So.
Many.
Votecounts.

In post 1600, Empking wrote: Apart from that Iece was scummiest than GB and it was obviously one versus one.

While I work, explain what the hell this means, because it makes so sense.

Scum in red, two possible scum candidates in blue, everyone else in green.

Starting with 1-8 and going until 1-14 were see mangal vote park on demon without actively pushing the slot. This seems like an insurance park to later appear like she was pushing him. In 1-14 demon fires back, so it's a cross-vote. In 1-16 however, Demon hops onto the Thad wagon. Mara goes for milkshake. Milkshake from 1-2 to 1-16 is a town driven wagon. Both demon and beli are on THad in 1-16, with mara on milk, and iece on swords. 1-18 sees the rebuilding of a milk wagon, with mara in the famous slot #3.

Mara counterwagon begins to form in 1-19, with demon sitting in the second slot.
1-20 shows the L-1 count for milk, with mara the only scum onboard. It's very obvious scum wanted milk's wagon to be town driven. Demon on the second largest wagon (marangal) and iece sitting around on swords alone. Beli on thad with amrun.

Final vote count shows milk hammered by iece. Two scum on the wagon, 1 scum off. Marangal wagon evaporates.... save for demon again. Noticing a pattern here. Beli is on Thad.

Now, looking at wagons ON the candidates, there's no day one wagon on demon, but take a look at the wagon on beli starting at 1-8. Demon pushes beli first, selkies follows. By 1-11 milk and ghostlin hop onboard. This continues in 1-12 through 13. In 14, the wagon is completely gone? Note that the posts between 13 and 14 contian selkies flipping their read of beli. Now check where demon goes. Yep. Right back to marangal.

Check out who votes demon all day. Hint: ONLY marangal.

Same as before. Scum in red, two possible scum candidates in blue, everyone else in green.

Things start getting interesting with 2-3. We see Beli on Thad along with me. Demon, mara, iece not voting yet.

2-5 we start to see the familiar cross-vote pattern emerge with Demon hopping on mara. By 2-6, the other half is complete. Mara is on demon. They park on each other the entire day from then on. Neither is on the final wagon. Thad is lynched with them having their votes on each other. No scum hunting goes on at all between the two.

Beli, on the other hand, pushes hard for Thad the entire day, not moving off the wagon once.

I'm pretty damn convinced it's Demon/Emp at this point. I'll keep going just to be safe, but this is really obvious.

While I keep working, swords, can you give your results? You said you had some stuff to go back and read?

Same as before. Scum in red, two possible scum candidates in blue, everyone else in green.

Well now it HAS to be empking. Let's take a look more carefully at vote count 3.6, shall we?

In post 1534, Cephrir wrote:

Vote Count 3.6

because it seems pertinent

Ms Marangal 4

[L-1]

(Nero Cain, Empking, sword_of_omens, Belisarius)

Empking 4

[L-1]

(Iecerint, Selkies, GoodCop_BadCop, Ms Marangal)

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline for Day 3 will be Monday, July 10th, 11:59 PM.

Notice something? Had beli been the last scum, he switches wagons to Empking, hammers him, and we go into night with zero protective roles, with the entire scumteam intact. They get any kill, like anyone claimed who cannot walk, and win in the daystart update. There was literally no reason for Beli to have NOT hammered emp there if beli was scum. So it's empking.

VOTE: Empking

Swords, you can have the honors.

In post 1603, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:

In post 1600, Empking wrote: Apart from that Iece was scummiest than GB and it was obviously one versus one.

While I work, explain what the hell this means, because it makes so sense.

In one v one, you versus Iece. Iece would be lynched because he was the scummiest.

I was hoping someone in town would read the thread before anyone voted again, but since it seems like that didn't happen.
Sword: I was hoping to use my one-shot three point redirection onto me, so I was killed making it an easier choice. Thus my advocation of No Lynch. Why would scum do that?

sorry guys I've had only phone access these last few days...
haven't had a chance to re read like I wanted to just yet...

@Empking, what do you think of GCBC's 1610 about Beli? To me that's pretty spot on...

also didn't you already use your lightning rod?


and when is deadline?

It makes me think GB might be scum.

With GB being a GF obviously.

Godfather is not an investigative role, therefore Cops can't be a godfather per Selkies' Dreamer result.

Time to hammer this win, Swords.

why would GCBC have to be a GF?

In post 1618, sword_of_omens wrote:why would GCBC have to be a GF?

Yeah, I misremembered Selkie's result.

ahh...Beli, you beat me to it....

honestly, what I wanted to re-read was GCBC as Selkis investigation on them wasnt alignment indicative...
and being on my phone this oast week hasnt helped...
I want to do it tonight if I can..otherwise I'll come back in thread and most likely hammer Emp tonight

alright guys,
i apologize for not being able to get to this sooner...
had some RL issues that came up and most likely will have to leave the site for awhile...
i've only had phone access this past week, and it's no way to play a game...

So unfortunately i can't really read through GCBC like i wanted to...
Beli is town based on GCBC's 1610.
GCBC also seems pretty legit unless he bussed Iece for own cred (which he could have)
However, Empking doesn't seem to come of as town affraid of being mislynched..
His claim, and targets seem to be a bit off as well...so i am fairly confident he's scum...

GCBC, if you are scum then you played damn well for your team...

ending this hopefully on a good note for town:



FINAAAAAALLLLLL HAAAAMMAAAH!!!!

Man I was worried as fuck you were scum trolling us or something. (A la muttlydmc)

But then I looked at the post 1610 again and realized you and beli BOTH could have hammered emp for the win. So it has to be emp. So we win. Woohoo.

I can't beleive we pulled that off going from mylo to town win. Like seriously. I want to draw watcher in all my games now. Coolest PR ever.

(Belisarius, GCBC, sword_of_omens)
(Empking)

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