Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:16 pm
so I'm on V/LA for a couple days
maybe this should go at the bottom of this post but guess what?
STILL LAZY
maybe this should go at the bottom of this post but guess what?
STILL LAZY
did you not just play a game with nacho/mara hydra where we were ambiguous with our claim when we were ran up?In post 1568, yessiree wrote:ambiguity does not come from townIn post 1564, Angry Frat BROs wrote:I never called Orc a scumread, did I? I kept my read on Orc ambiguous intentionally to prevent a derphammer.In post 1545, yessiree wrote:In post 1480, Angry Frat BROs wrote:If Orc flips scum, I'm thinking TIP partner. His "claim now bro" looks like coaching ascumbuddy*not* to get derphammered, and then blowing Guyett's reaction-test looks like trying to make sure Orc doesn't have a shit reaction.
Orc's last few pages have been meh; I was expecting a lot more after he got back from V/LA.
Intent to hammer here.A blunt transition from Intention to hammer aIn post 1542, Angry Frat BROs wrote: ...
Yessiree and Bauss coming out immediately to try to strongarm town into pushing themislynchis scummy, ftr. Bauss's insistence on posting high-level conjecture about Rank's play, while not addressing Orc's play with substance, is scummy.
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TIP's vote jump is awkward as fuck, and looks scummy, but it wouldn't work with yessiree/bauss's push for the lynch.
Sakura Hana looking super-town these past few pages.scumreadto defending a perceivedmislynch
my townread on you is diminishing
Also, I don't lynch un-CC'd PRs.
You laid out a shitty case that was entirely misreps or shitty logic, which I've refuted multiple times. You can say "your responses suck" all you want, but the fact stands that your responses to my responses have consistently been you restating your original point, or you further misrepping what I've said. It's quite laughable, really.In post 1572, likeabauss wrote:FratBros, you can keep screaming loudly at the top of your lungs, but I laid out a pretty substantial case against you and your response is pure suck. Just because I'm not continuing to drill at you doesn't mean you're right. You're now attempting to paint me as scum, without laying out any type of case on me. It's quite laughable really.
I substantiated both claims on Rank, with an in-depth analysis of him as a player and his play (based on 10 years of playing mafia with him.) You're asking me to substantiate a meta read that spans a volume of work you couldn't possibly read and understand in enough time to vote appropriately. There's an evolution of play, different archetypes he plays, deliberately different meta on different boards, calculated play refinements based on board play, and then there's a personal level of conversation and post game chats that provides far greater insight and depth on him than simply reading a game he played... you're asking like my meta read on Rank is something simple that I can point to a game or two and say "Here it is."
You're asking like you can only prove somebody is a murderer if they have murdered before.
there is a difference between being ambiguous about your own claim and being ambiguous about your choice on potential lynch targetIn post 1601, MC Maraca wrote: did you not just play a game with nacho/mara hydra where we were ambiguous with our claim when we were ran up?
who is this addressed to?In post 1602, MC Maraca wrote:what question did cabd not answer?
I've been trying to work with you all game bud, and I explained why I think AFB are town
and, you are trying to lynch an Un-cc'd PR like, the hell?
My real problem here is that JacobSavage is the only player I sincerely want to lynch. So I'm hopping on wagons on my null reads to prevent the lynches of my townreads and/or the claimed cop.In post 1594, Hermy wrote:Also, I love how the majority of the Caled wagon is comprised of scummy people...
The Caled wagon:
(someone makes perfectly decent case; VOTE)
(I agree; VOTE)
(I agree too; VOTE)
(I also agree, join the wagon; VOTE)
Not liking this at all.
We have a centralized voice, it just sucks.In post 1585, yessiree wrote:town is pretty softcore and indecisive; lacks centralized voice, lacks a leading force
Like for real bauss, not everyone who disagrees with you can be scum.In post 1591, Guyett wrote:In post 1587, likeabauss wrote:Because the guy that started it and a few people on it are scumreads for me.In post 1586, Guyett wrote:Why do you not like the Caled wagon?
Ok so which few of these (Sak, Yessiree and myself) are scumreads?
why quote only 1954? no comment for 1952 or 1953? the three posts act as one entityIn post 1607, Cephrir wrote:My real problem here is that JacobSavage is the only player I sincerely want to lynch. So I'm hopping on wagons on my null reads to prevent the lynches of my townreads and/or the claimed cop.In post 1594, Hermy wrote:Also, I love how the majority of the Caled wagon is comprised of scummy people...
The Caled wagon:
(someone makes perfectly decent case; VOTE)
(I agree; VOTE)
(I agree too; VOTE)
(I also agree, join the wagon; VOTE)
Not liking this at all.
I'm not aware of the existence of this. what is it?In post 1607, Cephrir wrote:We have a centralized voice, it just sucks.In post 1585, yessiree wrote:town is pretty softcore and indecisive; lacks centralized voice, lacks a leading force
are you implying you see bauss as town, because that's the underlying assumption I seeIn post 1607, Cephrir wrote:Like for real bauss, not everyone who disagrees with you can be scum.In post 1591, Guyett wrote:Ok so which few of these (Sak, Yessiree and myself) are scumreads?In post 1587, likeabauss wrote:Because the guy that started it and a few people on it are scumreads for me.In post 1586, Guyett wrote:Why do you not like the Caled wagon?
How do I prove myself innocent against a case that does not existIn post 1561, yessiree wrote:It's simple, really. I trust Bauss's ability to read his brother correctly. That's the entire case on you, and that's enough for a lynch. Guilty until proven innocent.In post 1552, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:kIn post 1527, yessiree wrote:It's not uncommon for scum to claim town PR when they are ran up. You cannot be certain orc's claim is genuine.
This claim also injects the element of WIFOM into our judgement, as I don't see the authenticity of it.
If you want to convince people otherwise, you'd have to show that his play is in line with being a town cop.
You haven't shown how my play was in line with being scum all fucking game. I mean, you people don't even bother. My wagon started maybe 4 days ago. I asked for a case yesterday. I have gotten jackshit. Nothing. Not even quotes. There is nothing on me.
Like, how I even got driven up to L-1 baffles me incredibly.
And no fucking shit you can't be certain my claim is genuine, you can't be certain of anything in this game. What we do is we try to make lynches that maximize utility to town. The reason why PRs aren't kept at L-1 (hi TIP) is because town stands to lose more than if it were a VT claim and scum often tries to take the opportunity to hammer them (hi TIP)
Good lord thiscannotbe news to you
well, as I see it, by your flip. if you were to flip town you can tell bauss to "STFU you can't read ur bro for shit"In post 1613, orcinus_theoriginal wrote: How do I prove myself innocent against a case that does not exist
i was going to talk to you some more but this post tells me that that would be an exercise in futilityIn post 1616, yessiree wrote:well, as I see it, by your flip. if you were to flip town you can tell bauss to "STFU you can't read ur bro for shit"In post 1613, orcinus_theoriginal wrote: How do I prove myself innocent against a case that does not exist
going to need more than thisIn post 1620, RadiantCowbells wrote:Orcinus could in fact be scum.
sakura is the more sane out of her and tipIn post 1618, yessiree wrote:Sak gets labelled as town after the exchange with TIP because it's first time I felt I can understand something coming out of her