For the record, even if someone doesn't think our claim doesn't 100% make us town, Tammy is ACTUALLY confirmed town to anyone who's ever played her meta. You can pretty much blindly trust Faraday on this one. She's one of the easiest reads on this site as town. This is how she gets when people suspect her as town. We hydra'd together as scum before, and you can see it was nothing like this. There's a reason I did most of the posting in
Anything Goes
. Even when she gets genuinely mad at BBmolla-the-traitor!usurper, you can see the vitriol is nowhere
near
the same. Untrod Tripod, how didn't you pick up on this at
all
?
(And yes, Faraday, some of my laziness WAS being a PR, but I think being a VT with someone who--in
theory
--makes us an innocent child would also have been enough to make me lazy.)
The only reason I'm not throwing my own tantrum is that I have confidence that people will see it, and also, Tammy is raging enough for both of us. Unlike her, I think there have to be at least 2-3 townies attacking us (are scum really THAT afraid of a one-shot quasi-investigation?). But I'm still EXTREMELY wary of Fate (despite some early townish-looking posts), because this is worse than his stance on Tierce in Scummies that made him obviously guilty when I was following along.
Dismissing it as "lol, Tammy is being annoying, so I'm lynching her" or "lol, Tammy is SO OVERDEFENSIVE and EMOTIONAL UNDER PRESSURE" is scrub-level play. Look beyond the surface, and it should be obvious we're innocent.
If you want, I'll tell Tammy not to post for twenty-four hours until she calms down, now. I don't blame her frustration, but it's irritating to have our slot's reads dismissed as crazy psycho people screaming at each other. Mollie is genuinely scummy this game!
In post 1477, Axxle wrote:Waffles, please stop doubting Ythan. That makes me want to vote you that much more and I really don't want to be that stupid. Why would he counter claim you as scum. Please let me know any possible scenario he'd do that.
I feel guilty for starting this whole mess with that post (when I mostly thought Ythan was town--I was just kind of paranoid and wanted a flavour claim from him), but...
Him counterclaiming us as scum makes literally AS MUCH SENSE AS OUR CLAIMING THE SHOT IN THE FIRST PLACE. AND HE'S FUCKING DOUBTING US. AND YOU'RE DOUBTING US. If you believe one is possible, you can also believe the other is. Or if one is impossible, etc.
Scum!Ythan theoretically might have figured counterclaiming would ruin our confirmed townie status, and also cover his ass by saying, "Oops, I guess there
were
two vigs!" when we flipped town--there actually would have been no downside. It's unlikely, and I'm still strongly leaning toward him being town (unlike Tammy, because I think Tammy is OMGUS-ing), because I still don't see a scum dayvig, and also, there's an element to our role that doesn't make it inconsistent with a day-and-night vig. However, paranoia/healthy sCepticism is pretty reasonable in our shoes.
For us to be scum, we set up a vig claim back on D1 and either claimed a vig shot that we knew an actual vig was responsible for (potentially prompting a bullet in the brain that night) or it's multiball and we wasted our factional kill on taking out a survivor...even though people will know for sure that it's multiball by D2 or D3.
Also, there's a FLIPPED SURVIVOR, only TWO DEATHS last night (one of which was the aforementioned survivor, which no second scumteam would ever shoot and two different vigs are claiming to have killed), town are red and scum are black (except for the green survivor)...so this is really, really, REALLY obviously not multiball. REALLY obviously not.
Also also, saying that someone is ballsy enough to do something as scum because they seem ballsy in this current game has...uh...an obvious flaw in it.
~Mina
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