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Post Post #1600 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 1:13 pm

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Ok, I'll really spell this out since now it seems like I'm not communicating well instead of Beck just not getting it due to ... well, I'll cut myself off there.

Scum is currently at an advantage. They do NOT want this game called a tie, because even if they kill at night and let themselves lose a small amount of their advantage that way, we still would have to lynch all three of them in a row. This is unlikely. In other words, the faction that's really doing well doesn't want the game to be called a tie. On the other hand, we are in an even worse state if we allow them to force us to lynch three times in MyLo situations in a row.

I think the best way to describe this is with an analogy. I'm going with a football analogy.

The New York Giants are playing the Seattle Seahawks. As is very predictable, the Seahawks are crushing the Giants at halftime. Let's say the score is 28-0. The refs go back to the locker rooms and say that unless one of the two teams decides to sit their starting QB for the entire second half, they're going to call the game a draw. Who will be willing to sit their starter, if anyone? Who has more to lose by the game being called a draw?

Answer: The Giants would refuse to sit their starter, and the Seahawks would agree to do so. The Giants would love the game to be called a draw, because no matter what they do, they'll probably lose if the game goes on. A draw is an improvement on a large probability of a loss. On the other hand, the Seahawks are willing to let some of their advantage go in favor of a MUCH larger advantage of being up 28-0 and having the game go on. The draw would be a worse outcome than the win that they're almost guaranteed if the game goes on. Let's be honest; Eli Manning's going to throw at least one interception in the second half anyway.

The Seahawks are scum. The Giants are town. See my point now?
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Post Post #1601 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 1:13 pm

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Beck wrote:1. Opportunism on 2 mislynches? Bullshit
2. No anti town thinking, nothing but protown strategic thinking, play to win not the is protown
3. No scum slips from me, not even possible scum slips. Rob pulled shit out of his ass.

Tool, dark is scum. I don't think, I know


Shh, the big boys are talking. And by big boys, I mean people who aren't scum.
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Post Post #1602 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 1:14 pm

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This isn't just about Day 5, when I'm pretty sure we'll lynch scum. This is about every day afterwards. Do you think this town is going to successfully lynch three scum in a row in three MyLo situations? Why not turn the odds slightly more in our favor? Not just for THIS day, but for ALL the days after it. We need numbers right now.
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Post Post #1603 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 1:17 pm

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Rob14 wrote:
Beck wrote:1. Opportunism on 2 mislynches? Bullshit
2. No anti town thinking, nothing but protown strategic thinking, play to win not the is protown
3. No scum slips from me, not even possible scum slips. Rob pulled shit out of his ass.

Tool, dark is scum. I don't think, I know


Shh, the big boys are talking. And by big boys, I mean people who aren't scum.

Don't fucking tell me to shh
And I'm not scum
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Post Post #1604 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 1:25 pm

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BTW your analogy sucks cause if this is football, town is down by 14 and are just spiking the ball then punting it away.
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Post Post #1605 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 1:31 pm

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shhh

But seriously, that's obviously not a better analogy than what I gave. Lynching during MyLo is almost always worse than no lynching. Your arguments against doing that have sucked hardcore. You're obviously playing against your wincon if you're town. I'll refer this to the admins for immediate ban.
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Post Post #1606 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 1:49 pm

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Unless you have actual statistics you are pulling that out of your ass.
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Post Post #1607 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 1:51 pm

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No lynching violates the site rule of play to win. Suggesting we no lynch is violating that rule,

so technically I CA report every one who voted to NL for immediate bans.

I can play your game sir
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Post Post #1608 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 1:53 pm

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It's common sense numbers, Beck. Good lord.

Take a 4p MyLo for instance. Do you want 3 people you could mislynch on or 2 people you could mislynch on? Obviously two.....

And implying no lynching isn't playing to win is absolutely absurd.

In conclusion,

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Post Post #1609 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 1:54 pm

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I feel like you're role playing the character of the clerk in this:

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Post Post #1610 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 1:54 pm

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Rob14 wrote:I feel like you're role playing the character of the clerk in this:



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Post Post #1611 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 1:57 pm

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Rob14 wrote:It's common sense numbers, Beck. Good lord.

Take a 4p MyLo for instance. Do you want 3 people you could mislynch on or 2 people you could mislynch on? Obviously two.....

And implying no lynching isn't playing to win is absolutely absurd.

In conclusion,

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But I have handed town scum on a platter. It's like Thanksgiving with all the fixings, and you deciding to eat at McDonald's instead
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Post Post #1612 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:00 pm

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Rob14 wrote:
Rob14 wrote:I feel like you're role playing the character of the clerk in this:



EBWOP

Nope, I'm playing whatever character is right but is being ignored and is annoyed about it
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Post Post #1613 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:03 pm

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You've done a lot of claiming that Dark is scum. What is your rationale? Because his posts do not look like scum to me.
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Post Post #1614 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:11 pm

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Because I know he is. Almost all of his posts look like scum btw, I doubt I could even find 5 that were protown
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Post Post #1615 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:18 pm

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Yeah, that's cool. But you're not going to convince anyone saying "Because I know he's scum". You've been wrong .... how many times this game? I'll go back to the basics for you. People make cases stating why they think someone is scum for two reasons:

1) So they can convince others that their reads are right.

2) So others can fact check them and double-check their intuition to determine whether their reasons for thinking someone is scum are good or bad.

So why don't you try making a case for once and actually give reasons for wanting to vote Dark. Beyond the obvious one that many people have mentioned him as possible scum and he doesn't seem to fight back too much.
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Post Post #1616 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:29 pm

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If I was on my computer I could explain these, but it is pretty obvious these posts don't come from town. The ugg day 1, and leaving someone he had a scum read on to sheep/buddy ree day 2, despite later saying he likes to vote the person he's most suspicious of, plus he's been budding others also a while doing nothing original himself
Spoiler:
DarkLightA wrote:
shos wrote:
shos wrote:it didn't get to L-1. but be sure to check my wagon if I flip scum.

rephrasing:
it didn't get to L-1. but I defended the possible attack on the wagon, so if I flip scum, you should search for my scumbuddies on this buswagon.

...that's irrelevant because I'm not going to, so no worries.

Dear lord you're making this complicated. I can't figure out how this would come from town. Then again, I don't think scum would be stupid enough to post it. Argh..

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Spoiler: Mantis quote
Mantisdreamz wrote:
Cuttlefish wrote:
Mantisdreamz wrote:UNVOTE: cuttle
VOTE: mr ree

krystal bald is my hydra account

no it's my hydra account
why the mreeree vote?

I'm not sure about shos, but with DLA's reaction, I'm certain that no matter shos's alignment, DLA is scum. Please let us lynch him instead of shos. tia

pretty sure it was mine.

actually... it's funny, cause i was thinking that no matter sho's alignment that mr ree was scum either way. how come DLA for you? all you said about him was the 'ugh' thing.
i just didn't like mr ree's post.
tired though.
just wanted to respond to this quickly

Mantis hasn't been saying... anything. Typically, I see that as coming from vanilla town. However, in the quoted post he appears to be trying to look productive. I don't like that combo.

VOTE: Mantisdreamz

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Hopkirk wrote:
DarkLightA wrote:Why Eek? I don't see his posts as that scummy—generally when I see reckless play like that it tends to be from town, unfortunately.


Reckless? I only see one vote and it's rvs.

Hopkirk wrote:Dark please answer my question.


Sorry.

Maybe my definition of reckless is different to yours. What I mean is that he is unproductive—he seems to be in it just based on entertainment value from his content thus far.

DarkLightA wrote:I've spent some time going through ISOs now and I agree with Mr Ree. I still don't like Mantis' play, including his recent responses. He went from not willing to put shos on L-1 because of the deadline being 19 days away in to stating intent to hammer in and hammering in , not 12 hours later.

Hopkirk wrote:@Ree: 141 and 232

I fail to see any relevance to the argument in these posts. Can you explain it to me?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Hopkirk

DarkLightA wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: Mantisdreamz

All you're doing is pointing fingers. You have literally no case against Mr_Ree. I don't like how certain you appear based on your lack of evidence.
Also, that may be the most consecutive posts I have seen.

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DarkLightA wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: Mantisdreamz

All you're doing is pointing fingers. You have literally no case against Mr_Ree. I don't like how certain you appear based on your lack of evidence.
Also, that may be the most consecutive posts I have seen.

I mean you had no case on hop and you were pretty sure he was scum...

At least I went pretty hard against Hopkirk as I thought he was scummy. Mantis has done basically nothing.

DarkLightA wrote:
Beck wrote:
Beck wrote:Dark - do you often calm people scum but refuse to vote them?

Why did you ignore this dark ?

I vote the person I find the most scummy. If the deadline is approaching, I may compromise with another of my scum reads.
^ If you noticed, that happens to be you. Congrats :)

DarkLightA wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: Hopkirk

Choo choo!

DarkLightA wrote:Hey, I'm back! I've tried to read up a bit on what's happened while I'm gone.

Tool came with a very good post regarding Ree's investigation. It struck me that Beck was so against this post, first saying it was completely useless, and later explaining that it was useless "because nobody knows what ree did or what his results are" (1304). However, this is exactly why Tool did what he did: in an attempt to find out this information. I don't get why Beck is so opposed to the idea of it.

Beck wrote:
PeregrineV wrote:1) Top suspect of town cop.
2) Helped to lynched town cop
3) Helped to lynched VT
4) Unwillingness to provide source of Dark vote
5) Unwillingness to interact
6) Horrible iso

Even now, by voting Beck I earned 3 votes on me.

:facepalm:

you have to be mafia with a post like this

Posts like these also strike me as off. Beck is very quick to jump to accusations against the person, rather than the argument. Trying to discredit the person rather than countering the argument is very scummy in my eyes.

It also confuses me that he's been such an opponent of reading into votecounts before, but now he's doing VCA himself. It's like his rules are made to throw out scumreads, but he doesn't stick to them himself.

It's cute that he highlighted himself as town though.

However, he's probably right with it being mylo :?

VOTE: No Lynch

DarkLightA wrote:Beck, if you think:
1) you appear town
OR
2) a doctor protecting someone makes them conf-town
...you are sadly mistaken.

DarkLightA wrote:Maybe I should just give up trying to understand what's going on in this game.

Why should we have a massclaim and a lynch, when we can wait a night, allow the slight possibility of a PR to play out, and be in a better position for a massclaim tomorrow, with fewer potential targets, and fewer town to assemble in a correct vote?

DarkLightA wrote:Beck is basically antagonizing himself. I prefer to patronize him.

Albert, what is your opinion on no lynching today? You haven't said anything about it, and it's kind of important.

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Post Post #1617 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:31 pm

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Rob14 wrote:Yeah, that's cool. But you're not going to convince anyone saying "Because I know he's scum". You've been wrong .... how many times this game? I'll go back to the basics for you. People make cases stating why they think someone is scum for two reasons:

1) So they can convince others that their reads are right.

2) So others can fact check them and double-check their intuition to determine whether their reasons for thinking someone is scum are good or bad.

So why don't you try making a case for once and actually give reasons for wanting to vote Dark. Beyond the obvious one that many people have mentioned him as possible scum and he doesn't seem to fight back too much.

You realize I'm one of the only people besides maybe ree to make cases the entire game right?
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Post Post #1618 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:47 pm

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Quoting Dark's entire ISO isn't a case. Sorry, try again. Or shhh. One or the other.
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Post Post #1619 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:51 pm

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People Got lynched This game without a case, why act like. It matters now.

You guys want to have the record for the longest string of nl/nk? Fine

vote no lynch


I'll report myself now too. Fuck this game
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Post Post #1620 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:20 pm

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Okay, that's enough arguing between you two.

I think we need a massclaim now. If nothing else, it can force scum to pick out the more obvtown as a nightkill.
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Post Post #1621 (ISO) » Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:19 am

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DarkLightA wrote:Maybe I should just give up trying to understand what's going on in this game.

Why should we have a massclaim and a lynch, when we can wait a night, allow the slight possibility of a PR to play out, and be in a better position for a massclaim tomorrow, with fewer potential targets, and fewer town to assemble in a correct vote?

DarkLightA wrote:Okay, that's enough arguing between you two.

I think we need a massclaim now. If nothing else, it can force scum to pick out the more obvtown as a nightkill.

Why the 180? You only wanted to mass claim under the idea we had less players, you should theoretically be against a massclaim.
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Post Post #1622 (ISO) » Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:41 am

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I was against a massclaim under the impression that we would be better off waiting till LyLo. Now we're in a stalemate, so it's appropriate to have a massclaim in MyLo nevertheless.
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Post Post #1623 (ISO) » Mon Sep 08, 2014 1:01 am

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You want to ... help scum kill the most obvtown? Why on earth would we do that? Mass claiming and then no lynching is worse than mass claiming and killing today, so no, we're not doing that.
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Post Post #1624 (ISO) » Mon Sep 08, 2014 1:19 am

Post by Beck »

And you quesyion me when I say he's scum :lol:
Beck =/= The band
Beck = a football player

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