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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 11:13 am
by Iecerint
Cephrir wrote:I was calling him scum quite a lot.

Thanks for that brilliant summary :/

So I just skimmed your iso via ctrl+f katsuki and then ctrl+f kats, and you were actually even more fence-oriented on him than I remembered tbf?

It's possible that the opinions you're talking about are all hidden in pronouns or something, though. It would seem pretty careless to deliberately lie about something like that.

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 11:26 am
by TierShift
Rhinox wrote:Probably not. But I did just read NS in iso for the first time and I'm pretty comfortable with my town read.

Please do try to explain. I'm really conflicted on NS and egg is trying to convince me NS is scum but he's hopelessly behind atm. He also thinks you're town so..work with me here.
Iecerint wrote:T-Bone is pretty obviously town.

Uh, I disagree. This is bullshit. I think he's probably town, but to say that he's obviously town is asinine. He's been blatantly antitown and the claim does absolutely jackshit for me. The only thing that makes me think he's town is the genuine reachouts he seems to be making, at times.

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 11:40 am
by Iecerint
He's obviously town relative to being the leading wagon in the game.

My comfort with using strong language stemmed from my team using pretty extreme language, which gave me more confidence.

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 11:41 am
by Iecerint
What is your goal in suggesting that T-Bone is only probably town rather than obviously town?

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:43 pm
by T-Bone
HUR DUR LOOK AT BONE AVOID THE THREAD

Just wanted to save you the trouble Shos/Ceph.

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:50 pm
by T-Bone
Also Eddie didn't answer my question so obvious confirm-bias must be scum.

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 3:03 pm
by Magua
Vote Count 2.5


With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

shos (3): T-Bone, Lady Lambdadelta, Rhinox
T-Bone (2): shos, EddieFenix
xRECKONERx (2): Cephrir, TierShift
Cabd (1): xRECKONERx
Cephrir (1): notscience

Not Voting (2): Cabd, Iecerint

V/LA: notscience (April 23rd)

Deadline for Day 2 is Sunday May 3rd, at 07:00pm EDT (site time).
Countdown to deadline:
(expired on 2015-05-03 18:00:00)


NameChangeScore
Cabd
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49
Cephrir
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47
EddieFenix
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50
Iecerint
-
50
Lady Lambdadelta
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51
notscience
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51
Rhinox
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47
shos
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53
T-Bone
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51
TierShift
-
51
xRECKONERx
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54


Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 3:06 pm
by Iecerint
T-Bone wrote:Also Eddie didn't answer my question so obvious confirm-bias must be scum.

You are not doing anyone favors by making posts like this.

If I understand you correctly, you know Eddie is town, so there is no need to antagonize him.

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 3:07 pm
by T-Bone
I don't know Eddie is town, I know he probably didn't commit the night kill. I think he's still probably scum.

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 3:09 pm
by T-Bone
Also notice the tongue and cheek in both of those posts Iece as things I have been accused of doing for BASELESS REASONS.

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 3:09 pm
by Iecerint
I see.

My inference from your treatment of Cephrir and Eddie had been that Cephrir targeted someone who wasn't the nightkill and that Eddie targeted no one, implying that Eddie was town unless scum have 2 members without a night action.

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 3:10 pm
by Iecerint
Antagonizing people for no reason is why people wanted to lynch Katsuki.

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 3:19 pm
by T-Bone
I don't believe either of them took action last night. So I mean it's up to everyone what they think about it. My original plan was just to say to remove them from the lynch pool because I know neither of them killed Bins. My working scumteam going into the night phase was Eddie/Ceph/LLD. Maybe I'm wrong on Ceph? There are occasional town vibes from him just get awash in his overall body of work.

And antagonistic is what I do, I'm a bitter player sometimes. Plus I secretly hope that if I drill this into the thread enough when I get mislynched Shos will realize how actively bad he has been this game (and others) and take a step towards not being bad.

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 3:36 pm
by Cephrir
it's kind of arrogant to ever think you can guess the team with no flips

eddie isn't scum

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 3:37 pm
by T-Bone
Hence my working theory scumteam, that is based on the players I felt are scummiest.

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 3:56 pm
by Iecerint
If someone took no action last night, the chance of their being scum is very low. It would probably only happen if scum only has 1 PR that targets players.

Or if they're a ninja. Which isn't out of the question given that you apparently got multiple targets.

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 3:56 pm
by Iecerint
Cephrir's response I thought implied he had targeted someone.

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 4:30 pm
by Cephrir
I've been deliberately obfuscating what I do or don't know and what I did or didn't do.

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 4:36 pm
by EddieFenix
T-Bone wrote:Also Eddie didn't answer my question so obvious confirm-bias must be scum.


Been busy with school and keep getting buried in fucking work. Don't worry though, I'll be back to bury you though.

V/LA til Saturday the 25th.

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 4:54 pm
by Iecerint
Cephrir wrote:I've been deliberately obfuscating what I do or don't know and what I did or didn't do.

Please only continue to do that if you are scum.

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 4:55 pm
by Iecerint
Like, T-Bone could have reasonably come out and said that you didn't target anyone and pushed a lynch on you purely on those grounds.

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 5:41 pm
by shos
This rolefishing fiasco needs to stop.

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:10 pm
by Iecerint
You don't know what rolefishing is.

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:14 pm
by shos
Riiiiiiiight okiedokie

keep talking about how X is a PR, Y is not, Z is but not the killer, etc etc

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:29 pm
by Iecerint
In games of mafia that are not mountainous, you use night actions to reduce the possibilities of who is scum after night results have been claimed. Or you assess people's reactions after the claim to infer that something might be up. That's not rolefishing.

Further, indicating that someone is rolefishing is the same as indicating that they are scum, since that's an alignment-linked way to characterize the situation.