Prozac's Basic Theme 4 - Murder in Marlowe - OVER!

[notscience]

VOTE: mattp

consolidating+actually scumreading him

[pirate mollie]

can you talk to other pple other than me

[notscience]

I'm waiting for marquis and bins to be here more but yes

[Flameaxe]

Ughhhh

[Spiffeh]

Mollie ignore the haters I don't even see their issues with you (maybe because I don't know you)

[Marquis]

midterm for a few hours then rereading and engaging!!

[notscience]

I will want to check base w/ you when you're here

[Spiffeh]

notscience you keep saying you want to engage with Marquis and Bins but when they do post you never address them?

PEdit: Before now

[Flameaxe]

Because his entire day has been a never ending struggle to look useful while doing next to nothing

[notscience]

Because his entire day has been a never ending struggle to look useful while doing next to nothing

You're right, maybe I should just drop the pretense and be just like you.

@spiffeh- I want to have a full conversation with bins and I know she's only semi available and same for marquis.

[Spiffeh]

Ok I am expecting some deep shit to come from this conversation

[notscience]

Don't get your hopes up, I'm just trying to appear like I'm contributing.

It's majority going to be discussing what I'm seeing and seeing if they come to the same conclusions.

I'm wondering why they aren't' townreading CKD but my own read isn't all that strong where it's a huge issue.

[pirate mollie]

VOTE: notty

[notscience]

Rather, why bins is

I'm on a similar wavelength to marquis regarding that.

Like we're running on a similar wavelength with similar scumpools but at the same time

I'm curious about him excusing myko from the pool because it was one post early game and while yes, I excused it too early I realize there's so much more going on so I want to know if any of his more recent posts have changed anything or if it's still stuck where it was.

pedit-

Mollie :/

[pirate mollie]

UNVOTE:

[ChannelDelibird]

I'm up to page 41 of my read. Man, it feels like those arguments with mollie (mine, Starbuck's, Reck's) really sapped the life out of this game; it's like half of the players have been as distracted and unmotivated as I am. I don't really know what I'm saying here (I'm not going to apologise for what I said; if I didn't feel like it needed to be said, etc...) beyond 'sorry I've been so absent' but I feel a bit bad that I helped to cause such lethargy.

I'm not sure if I can draw any conclusions from it but I think the general pattern miiiight indicate that mollie is town and that scum are hoping that either she or something in her path will blow up if they just let it.

Won't unvote/revote/whatever until I've read everything (hopefully not ages longer, I'm having to skim a bit to keep my sanity) but that's my instinctive reaction. Feels like towns in previous games where arguments like that have happened have done a better job of rallying around other things to keep things going? That might be a playerlist issue, though.

[ChannelDelibird]

the cdb thing makes me wanna cry and I probably will at some point. he definitely doesn't like me as much as I like him and he shldn't feel bad about it I am just not his cup of tea.

Aw, I think you're awesome! But more than most I really struggle to work with you and make sense of you in mafia specifically. That's fine too!

I don't have

any

cups of tea anyway because I'm a bad Brit

[Starbuck]

Because his entire day has been a never ending struggle to look useful while doing next to nothing

QFT

[ChannelDelibird]

OK I definitely skimmed the last few pages pretty hard but impressions probably weren't going to be changed much by that point. I'll go back over later depending on what flip we end up getting from Today, maybe.

Town

mollie

- Relentless commitment to posting and adapting and being useful despite obvious fury at this game is more likely to come from town. Obviously has bugged me for a few reasons but behaviour, game state and my past failures to match her posts with alignment indications all suggest that she's town

Davsto

- Daring a bunch of people to wagon you does not seem like an impulse that comes to scum

Nexus

- has the exact level of investment in this game that I would expect from him as town and his reads are classic Nexus

notty

- the thing about him trying to foster a calm, progressive gamestate rang true with me, and his early-to-mid-Day flip-flopping on me feels more flexibly town

catboi

- one of my more tentative townreads as I'm still trying to get a handle on him as a player but feels solid, alert and invested

Zito

- Early investment being waned by direction of the game but still active and alert

Spiffeh

- I apparently megatownread him for something on my last reread but I might have been reading that part of the game too quickly this time to spot where it came from. Close to null as of right now but I might remember why I townread him later

scotmany

- Became a strong read here. His Davsto crusade feels town

Marquis

- Earliest read, remains strong, feels like someone in control of what he's trying to do in contrast to Team Mafia

Null

Flameaxe

- literally no idea

myko

- not worried about his hyper-read on me; he definitely goes in strong when reading me one way or the other, and i don't think that's particularly indicative. I on the other hand don't have much of a handle on myko beyond always ending up wrongly POE-ing him as scum in skype/face-to-face. I can recognise things he likes to do (resistance to the notty wagon, as it were, doesn't feel out of character at all as either alignment) but not good at differentiating his motivations. a lynch here would feel like a stab in the dark for me right now

MattP

- I didn't get much out of Coug and the little flashes I've seen of Matt feel a liiiiittle bit town but I really wish he were more active, I feel like I

could

read him if he were available enough.

Starbuck

- skimmed a lot of really wally posts but what I did read I just don't have any interest in, frankly

Torn

Reck

- I think that Reck knows that he could coast more than he is if he were scum (a la Red Wedding) and his interactions with mollie feel like they're coming from a town place BUT given my worries that scum may just be hoping that something blew up with mollie, I could certainly see him coming back to push her in between prod dodges as scum to her town. Gut says town, head doesn't want to be fooled like I was in Red Wedding

Espeonage

- AJ looked dodgy but I kinda liked Espy's reaction to myko suggesting he was behaving how he was because he felt like an outsider as a replacement. My closest thing to an out-and-out scumread but I'm secretly kinda glad that it doesn't look like there's any serious chance of a lynch here Today because I'd like to see what Espy does with a full Day and some flips

ckd

- In a pretty similar place to where I was here. Feels like CKD is hitting the same few notes over and over again and there's one or two of those notes that I can't really reconcile as coming from an entirely honest place

Bins

- This feels like what I want to post when I'm scum getting harried over something that feels like it should be insignificant but they're actually right. BUT this is my first game with Bins (to my memory) and multiple people seem to be suggesting that playstyle clash could be a thing. Will probably revisit this on Day 2 when she has to deliver on promise of greater investment

No proper, out-and-out scumreads which feels

ridiculous

but that's where I am. I think that I'm likely going to end up just kinda unexcited about a MattP lynch because that sounds like a less bad idea than a notty one. Near-total ambivalence on myko + population of his wagon leaves me pretty uninterested about making that happen as a counter to MattP.

UNVOTE: mollie
VOTE: MattP

[Flameaxe]

Because his entire day has been a never ending struggle to look useful while doing next to nothing

You're right, maybe I should just drop the pretense and be just like you.

@spiffeh- I want to have a full conversation with bins and I know she's only semi available and same for marquis.

I've actually engaged with people outside my clique. Try again.

[Flameaxe]

I've never been so happy to see a reads post that featured actual content

Well met cdb

[notscience]

I've actually engaged with people outside my clique. Try again.

I could, but that would mean I think you've actually done things.

[notscience]

scotmany - Became a strong read here. His Davsto crusade feels town

Can you unpack this some? I looked through his ISO trying to understand what it is you find town about it. One thing that bothered me was that when the wagon on davsto dissolved, rather than try and make it become a thing again he was content joining another wagon and putting it on the back burner.

Why is your strong townread so short in explanation in comparison to your other reads?

Davsto - Daring a bunch of people to wagon you does not seem like an impulse that comes to scum

Why would scum not do this? Scum can't just spaz out every time someone votes them, and baiting people to wagon you just opens up the "oh they just got baited" angle to use to discredit it.

catboi - one of my more tentative townreads as I'm still trying to get a handle on him as a player but feels solid, alert and invested

Why is he getting a townread for this?

Zito - Early investment being waned by direction of the game but still active and alert

Do you think all the scum are hiding in the lurkmass? Because your scumread on ckd kinda opposes that theory. If not, why is this getting townread?

[catboi]

I don't think Davsto was really "daring" people to vote him there at all. He was just complaining about people fos-ing him but not actually voting him, which I think someone of either alignment could do. I was somewhat defensive of him earlier, but I think his posts really haven't improved as the day's gone on.

[notscience]

Those reads are really fucking weird.