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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:22 pm
by Titus
Or Reflexive jailkeeper?

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:22 pm
by 3dicerolling
Titus wrote:
3dicerolling wrote:Honestly, I don't think spiffeh scum makes sense with the setup either. Ascetic with a doctor means the only person suzune could protect is antihero, which isn't very powerful at all.


Reflexive roleblocker instead?


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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:24 pm
by 3dicerolling
Seriously though, is that even a thing?

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:28 pm
by Titus
Yes. Bulbazak had the role in a large theme. We Didn't Play test This.

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:30 pm
by 3dicerolling
Has it occured in more than one game?

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:31 pm
by Titus
My gut seriously tells me FB is town. My gut hasn't read FB wrong. Ever.

My head says lynch the SK. Sort this out tomorrow with MM's role block.

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:32 pm
by CharlotteBebe
do you think hes like..
a 1-shot reflexive roleblocker then? :/
even then it still makes his role kind of shitty for the scumteam in terms of synergy with a mafia doctor.

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:32 pm
by CharlotteBebe
im probably not gonna vote for anyone but 3dice, but i dont mind talking it out with him in the meantime!

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:32 pm
by Titus
3dicerolling wrote:Has it occured in more than one game?


Voteless player after D4 has never occurred as far as I know.

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:33 pm
by Titus
CharlotteBebe wrote:do you think hes like..
a 1-shot reflexive roleblocker then? :/
even then it still makes his role kind of shitty for the scumteam in terms of synergy with a mafia doctor.


Who said one shot?

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:33 pm
by CharlotteBebe
well like, itd be like..
incredibly risky for him to claim that hes 1-shot ascetic and then be able to be targeted again after that.

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:36 pm
by Titus
By who?

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:38 pm
by 3dicerolling
Titus wrote:
3dicerolling wrote:Has it occured in more than one game?


Voteless player after D4 has never occurred as far as I know.


But you are wrong about my role? (This will of course, be apparent after my flip, but play along for now)

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:39 pm
by CharlotteBebe
just like in general?
would you as scum set out a claim thats easily disproved?

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:40 pm
by Titus
3dicerolling wrote:
Titus wrote:
3dicerolling wrote:Has it occured in more than one game?


Voteless player after D4 has never occurred as far as I know.


But you are wrong about my role? (This will of course, be apparent after my flip, but play along for now)


I see no evidence of that.

If Spiffeh is a reflexive roleblocker/jailkeepers and you're investigation immune, the setup balances fine.

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:41 pm
by CharlotteBebe
ank and i hadnt fullclaimed.
we could have had something which could mess with a fakeclaim like that.

you hadnt fullclaimed.

we could have no lynched until we proved whether spiff was telling the truth or not.

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:42 pm
by Titus
CharlotteBebe wrote:just like in general?
would you as scum set out a claim thats easily disproved?


How is Spifeh's claim disproven ever?

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:42 pm
by Titus
CharlotteBebe wrote:ank and i hadnt fullclaimed.
we could have had something which could mess with a fakeclaim like that.

you hadnt fullclaimed.

we could have no lynched until we proved whether spiff was telling the truth or not.


I had. You had enough with tracker.

No one would ever get a result.

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:42 pm
by CharlotteBebe
theres no reason to fakeclaim something like that.
if hes not 1-shot ascetic, then hes 1-shot reflexive roleblocker at worst.

p-edit: if hes a multi-shot and he reflexively roleblocks ANYONE after the first time it happens then hes confirmed scum.
why would he do that to himself?
that would be fucking dumb.

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:43 pm
by 3dicerolling
The evidence will come in my flip. You will see that not every role you see in other setups will be in this one.

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:44 pm
by Titus
CharlotteBebe wrote:theres no reason to fakeclaim something like that.
if hes not 1-shot ascetic, then hes 1-shot reflexive roleblocker at worst.

p-edit: if hes a multi-shot and he reflexively roleblocks ANYONE after the first time it happens then hes confirmed scum.
why would he do that to himself?
that would be fucking dumb.


And how would anyone know if FB is lynched?

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:44 pm
by CharlotteBebe
and again like.. isnt that still just like.. broken utility for scum?
why have a mafia doctor then? it doesnt make any sense :/

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:46 pm
by CharlotteBebe
i wont be obnoxious about it.
im pretty fine with lynching 3dice because i think youre right there.
but like.
i just really agree with 3dice that scum having a role that actively works against their synergy just doesnt seem like something that would actually happen.

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:48 pm
by Firebringer
I like potatoes, what do you guys like?

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:49 pm
by 3dicerolling
There has been one more thing that's been bugging me.

@Titus - IF delay does happen before roleblock, then my shot will hit Firebringer and we will either lose or win, correct?