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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 7:39 am
by kraska77
Hey shadow, put blitz at l-1 pls

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 7:40 am
by JarJarDrinks
In post 1598, Shadow_step wrote:Why the hell would I claim a vanilla cop then? Why not claim a cop and say that I have a town result on whoever the fuck I want because I would know everyone's alignment.
Well Vanilla cop doesn't confirm anyone as town.

If u claim cop then you'd have to tell us that Gerry is town (I'm assuming he's town if ur scum) and then u couldn't park ur vote there like ur doing right now.

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 7:43 am
by kraska77
In post 1588, Blitzkrieg wrote:
In post 1556, gerryoat wrote:I think giga is scum. I think transcend did a gambit and tried to buddy maria the town. giga has also seemingly been ok with voting pretty much anyone so far.

VOTE: giga
This.

Giga will vote anyone and practically every slot has been counterwagoned against Giga. Might as well be a neon sign scum aren't bussing and Giga is scum.
Probably won't be active during weekend so I'll just go ahead and say the above feels like blitz painting a target on gerry's back

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 7:44 am
by Elyse
VOTE: Blitz
L-1

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 7:44 am
by JarJarDrinks
In post 1600, kraska77 wrote:Hey shadow, put blitz at l-1 pls
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 7:47 am
by Shadow_step
In post 1601, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 1598, Shadow_step wrote:Why the hell would I claim a vanilla cop then? Why not claim a cop and say that I have a town result on whoever the fuck I want because I would know everyone's alignment.
Well Vanilla cop doesn't confirm anyone as town.

If u claim cop then you'd have to tell us that Gerry is town (I'm assuming he's town if ur scum) and then u couldn't park ur vote there like ur doing right now.
Yeah I claim a town result on Gerry and then I can easily claim I was rbed on all the other nights . I'm voting you BTW. Nice try

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 7:48 am
by Shadow_step
INTENT

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 7:50 am
by gigabyteTroubadour
I like my vote but I think we're going a little fast. That could just be me getting used to the shorter deadlines though.

Shadow, I'm really liking Jarjar for town. Why are you scumreading him?

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 7:58 am
by Shadow_step
In post 1607, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:I like my vote but I think we're going a little fast. That could just be me getting used to the shorter deadlines though.

Shadow, I'm really liking Jarjar for town. Why are you scumreading him?
Because of his reaction to my claim and post that.
First thing he did was that he voted someone else so I think he obviously believed what I said. Scum would want to get off a T pr wagon asap.

Then he probably realised it would look bad and started doubting my claim again. I can't quite wrap my head around that.

Then he wants town consensus whether he should be voting me again or not. Like he's paranoid about doing that and wondering how it would look. Scared of derailing the blitz wagon sounds like bs. We weren't 24 hours from deadline or something.

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 8:12 am
by gigabyteTroubadour
Hm, interesting... I felt his read progression was really natural but I will definitely reevaluate.

atm this is what my head looks like:

Town: {Kraska, Thor, Nero, JJD, Michel}

??? i can't sort these people: {Elyse (I scumread her play but the way her wagon developed felt like another scumread of mine from another game so?? might be confbiasing), Shadow_Step (not entirely fond of approach towards the game but claim seems town), gerryoat (unreadable)}

Scum: {Karnos, Blitz}

so with only 2 scumreads, I am very likely townreading scum (unless it's a karnos/blitz/gerry team or smth). i haven't had any time irl to really re-read and take notes like i like to but i definitely am going to have to take a second look at everyone

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 8:27 am
by JarJarDrinks
In post 1608, Shadow_step wrote:
In post 1607, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:I like my vote but I think we're going a little fast. That could just be me getting used to the shorter deadlines though.

Shadow, I'm really liking Jarjar for town. Why are you scumreading him?
Because of his reaction to my claim and post that.
First thing he did was that he voted someone else so I think he obviously believed what I said. Scum would want to get off a T pr wagon asap.

Then
he probably realised it would look bad
and started doubting my claim again. I can't quite wrap my head around that.

Then he wants town consensus whether he should be voting me again or not. Like he's paranoid about doing that and wondering how it would look. Scared of derailing the blitz wagon sounds like bs. We weren't 24 hours from deadline or something.
Why would it look bad?

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 9:14 am
by MichelSableheart
Sorry team, had a very busy couple of days, and I'm having trouble thinking straight. I'll probably go to bed in a moment, expect a more thorough post tomorrow morning. I'll have to think if I believe that claim, among other things.

In the meantime, I'm not happy with the blitz wagon. It's being pushed by three of the four players I have most doubt about. With giga, nero and shadow all supporting it, karnos is my only scumread who hasn't mentioned being in favour of this wagon.

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 9:16 am
by JarJarDrinks
Shadow isn't exactly supporting it. He was coerced into giving intent.

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 9:19 am
by gigabyteTroubadour
What do you mean "coerced"? If you think Kraska suggesting Shadow to do that is scummy, why are you supporting the wagon...?

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 9:23 am
by kraska77
In post 1611, MichelSableheart wrote:I'm not happy with the blitz wagon
That's a good sign

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 9:23 am
by JarJarDrinks
In post 1613, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:What do you mean "coerced"? If you think Kraska suggesting Shadow to do that is scummy, why are you supporting the wagon...?
Maybe coerced isn't the right word.

I don't @ all think that Kraska telling shadow to vote blitz is scummy. My point is that Shadow doesn't want to vote for blitz (his scumbuddy) but doesn't really have much of a choice @ this point.

If blitz flips scum then shadow gets zero towncred for it.

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 9:24 am
by gigabyteTroubadour
ooooh. ok that makes sense lol

i was picturing kraska holding shadow at gunpoint and demanding him to hammer and it felt rly weird... kraska would never :(

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 9:28 am
by kraska77
Ya I said "pls"!!!!!

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 9:48 am
by gerryoat
I don't see what Blitz has done to be at L-1 that wagon formed very fast. Right now I'd say Giga and Elyse are scum.

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 9:50 am
by gigabyteTroubadour
kraska i have this nagging feeling gerry is being/was coached

thoughts :?: something feels unnatural about him but i'm not good at tone reads in online mafia

@Gerry, like together or what

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 9:56 am
by kraska77
I would like to listen to the dead...especially since Maria seems to be very familiar with him, but then again... the stuff i said in post 1602
What do you think of that? Blitz is toast, so obfuscating associations is what I expect her to do

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 10:01 am
by gigabyteTroubadour
I can't decide honestly. I guess it's more likely that 2/3 of the scumteam ISN'T going to vote one after the other, but I don't think I can get lynched without Gerry's vote. The interaction is just weird, and I'm not sure what the strategy of any of the people I am scumreading is. Does scum!Blitz actually WANT me lynched (Meaning that Gerry is likely town)? Or is scum!Blitz just trying to make me a counterwagon that never gets traction (meaning that blitz and gerry could viably be partners distancing)?

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 10:13 am
by kraska77
I think it's the latter. I mean she has nothing else to say at this point anyway. But that's not even distancing
It doesn't look like one atleast

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 10:15 am
by kraska77
There's not much else she could say at this point*
Is a better way to word it

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 10:16 am
by Elyse
In post 1618, gerryoat wrote:I don't see what Blitz has done to be at L-1 that wagon formed very fast. Right now I'd say Giga and Elyse are scum.
I'm coming for you next