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Okay so I see a pagetop and it's time for a big post. Let's talk about Vecna.



He was willing to answer 4 questions via the colour of his posts, so we have the answers summarised here by this really cool guy I know:

In post 1386, jjh927 wrote: Just as a recap for right now, what we've got is:

1. Vecna is trying to tell us something
2. He is incapable of voting
3. The thing he is trying to tell us (see 1.) is that he is the great cornholio
4. He will eventually run out of quotes

He doesn't answer the next two questions though, these being


However, for the second, he does demonstrate that he is capable of posting in some kind of distorted rainbow colour (because seriously that doesn't look like a normal rainbow) meaning he would have been capable of doing the readslist thing.



No.

If real, this would be an extraordinarily restrictive post restriction, alongside being voteless. I am under the impression that RC understands fully that post restrictions like this are terrible and would not put one in a game because there may as well be no point in posting for the poor soul stuck with the role. It is not good game design to essentially disallow a player's participation over the entirety of a day.

Furthermore, if it was real Vecna would likely have responded to post 1379. We have the answer to this question- as far as Vecna has shown, he has "ran out of quotes", as he has now used the quote from his first post twice more, although without the typo this time.

Finally, if real, there would be a list of allowed posts that Vecna would be copying from. Let's return to that typo. If he'd copied it, it wouldn't be there. So why is it there? The conclusion is that he did not copy that quote; he typed it out.



Oh ho, here's where it gets juicy and speculative. After Vecna's first post, it was over 48 hours later that he made his second post. I believe that at the time of his first post, he did not intend to fake a post restriction. It was his intro to a game he did not particularly want to read or play. He simply carried it on from there, and is now too far gone.

In post 746, mastina wrote: Vecna hadn't posted, so while this is also guesswork, this is a scummish null, because he absolutely

should

be posting, and posting up a storm no less. Vecna's both an incredible wallposter, and incredible spamposter. His post count is always in the hundreds, usually the 300-800 range. And in spite of producing that number of posts, about 33-50% of said posts are wallposts. He is someone I would expect to be incredible active in the game and among the first to be posting in it, so his absence felt strange.

In post 789, mastina wrote:

In post 770, jjh927 wrote:The difference between real and faked post restrictions is that when it's a real one the game is to try and find a workaround, whereas when it's faked they're just having fun

The problem with faked posting restrictions is that Vecna is absolutely not a player who would fake it as town.

In post 774, Gamma Emerald wrote:Idrc if it’s faked, as long as he’s contributory I’m fine.

The problem is, he isn't. And Vecna as town ALWAYS is.

Actually, yes, there's a 2 for 1 going here.

In post 774, Gamma Emerald wrote: Idrc if it’s faked, as long as he’s contributory I’m fine.

So where is Gamma Emerald now?

In post 1405, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 1402, Porkens wrote:there you finally had the guts to omgus.

that's a laughabel "recap"

jj is translating the fake post restriction so we can "get" it

I can see how that would make jjh scum but why Vecna as well?

This is a pretty direct contradiction we have going here. First up, Vecna is absolutely not contributory by any reasonable definition. So you could expect Gamma to push that shit now, right? But not only is that not happening, this whole interaction with porkens there didn't sit right with me even before I put those two posts next to each other. I don't see how Gamma could find it reasonable to suspect me for helping to drudge out whatever content we can get out of Vecna, while also not suspecting him because he is somehow contributing.

In post 1495, Gamma Emerald wrote:@Kuroi that post wasn’t meant to be trolling? I was telling him to stop ranting because I didn’t think my vote was a good reason to be shot

Sorry. It came across as trolling to me too.

In post 1510, Lady Angel wrote:

In post 1496, Porkens wrote:Kurio is scum too

Why is your scum list seemingly only every single person on your wagon and nobody else?

^

In post 1511, Porkens wrote:Seemingly because the scum want me dead?

Bad reason. If you're not scum, you're better than this.

In post 1546, Nero Cain wrote:Maria is active sitewide and that's why I suggested it. Not really sure why them saying they'll be inactive means we shouldn't lynch them but Kuroi is good.

vote:Kuroi

I'm usually even better, but I have a hard time getting into the fuck.

more Kuroi votes.

Idk about this game

Chick is still scummy to me

Kuroi and Porkens seems town

Vecna is prob scum

Prodging for now. Today was busy, tomorrow will be busy. Sunday will be busy. Sorry

@Porkens, I asked you a question. Please do the thing.

In post 1604, WhemeStar wrote:Chick is still scummy to me

Kuroi and

Porkens seems town

Vecna is prob scum

Wheme is probably town.

Pork is most likely to flip green.

How much time do we have left and @mod, can we have a VC please?

Anyway, no clue wtf Vecha is but I’d rather lynch there over Pork. I don’t want to mislynch and I’m really not looking forward to finding out I was right, post-flip.

That's really clever, I would never have guessed he'd be faking it.

Is there even enough time to get 12 people on him before the day ends?

In post 1350, RadiantCowbells wrote:

A Story Revisited

Votecount 1.55:

Lady Angel (3): Innocent Children, jjh927, Gamma Emerald
Mastina (3): Maid Cafe, Nicorobin, Nero Cain
Porkens (2): randomidget, Nosferatu
Innocent Children (2): KuroiXHF, Sora
Skygazer (2): Titus, Invisibility
Titus (1): Porkens
Nosferatu (1): Skygazer
KuroiXHF (0):
Ginngie (0):
Nero Cain (0):
Vaxkiller (0):
Vecna (0):
Whemestar (0):
Chickadee (0):
Invisibility (0):
Nicorobin (0):
jjh927 (0):
Rylai and Lina (0):
Maid Cafe (0):
Gamma Emerald (0):
randomidget (0):

Not Voting: Vecna, Vaxkiller,

Wh4t

, Chickadee, Mastina, Ginngie, Shiro, Whemestar, Lady Angel

With 21 alive it's 12 to lynch. (this is correct.)

The day will end in (expired on 2018-09-25 18:00:00).

Days will last 2 weeks, or until a lynch (or no lynch) has been decided on.

In post 1609, Lady Angel wrote:That's really clever, I would never have guessed he'd be faking it.

Is there even enough time to get 12 people on him before the day ends?

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Vecna

Vc morning promise

VOTE: Vecna

The above post is a lie.

In post 1600, jjh927 wrote:Okay so I see a pagetop and it's time for a big post. Let's talk about Vecna.

Introduction

He was willing to answer 4 questions via the colour of his posts, so we have the answers summarised here by this really cool guy I know:

In post 1386, jjh927 wrote: Just as a recap for right now, what we've got is:

1. Vecna is trying to tell us something
2. He is incapable of voting
3. The thing he is trying to tell us (see 1.) is that he is the great cornholio
4. He will eventually run out of quotes

He doesn't answer the next two questions though, these being

Spoiler: Followup questions

In post 1379, jjh927 wrote:Red if you'll be able to vote when you run out, blue if you will be able to post normally, some disgusting shade of purple for both and green for neither

In post 1384, jjh927 wrote:Oh yeah and Vecna, if you could do a makeshift readslist by rainbowposting where the first 22 letters are coloured individually depending on the read for the 22 players in order on the list that would be great

Use red for scum, green for town and yellow for null I guess

However, for the second, he does demonstrate that he is capable of posting in some kind of distorted rainbow colour (because seriously that doesn't look like a normal rainbow) meaning he would have been capable of doing the readslist thing.

So is this a real post restriction?

No.

If real, this would be an extraordinarily restrictive post restriction, alongside being voteless. I am under the impression that RC understands fully that post restrictions like this are terrible and would not put one in a game because there may as well be no point in posting for the poor soul stuck with the role. It is not good game design to essentially disallow a player's participation over the entirety of a day.

Furthermore, if it was real Vecna would likely have responded to post 1379. We have the answer to this question- as far as Vecna has shown, he has "ran out of quotes", as he has now used the quote from his first post twice more, although without the typo this time.

Finally, if real, there would be a list of allowed posts that Vecna would be copying from. Let's return to that typo. If he'd copied it, it wouldn't be there. So why is it there? The conclusion is that he did not copy that quote; he typed it out.

jjhnumbers, you're overanalysing things here. What can we get from Vecna having typed out that first post?

Oh ho, here's where it gets juicy and speculative. After Vecna's first post, it was over 48 hours later that he made his second post. I believe that at the time of his first post, he did not intend to fake a post restriction. It was his intro to a game he did not particularly want to read or play. He simply carried it on from there, and is now too far gone.

And why doesn't this wall have any mastina quotes?

In post 746, mastina wrote: Vecna hadn't posted, so while this is also guesswork, this is a scummish null, because he absolutely

should

be posting, and posting up a storm no less. Vecna's both an incredible wallposter, and incredible spamposter. His post count is always in the hundreds, usually the 300-800 range. And in spite of producing that number of posts, about 33-50% of said posts are wallposts. He is someone I would expect to be incredible active in the game and among the first to be posting in it, so his absence felt strange.

In post 789, mastina wrote:

In post 770, jjh927 wrote:The difference between real and faked post restrictions is that when it's a real one the game is to try and find a workaround, whereas when it's faked they're just having fun

The problem with faked posting restrictions is that Vecna is absolutely not a player who would fake it as town.

In post 774, Gamma Emerald wrote:Idrc if it’s faked, as long as he’s contributory I’m fine.

The problem is, he isn't. And Vecna as town ALWAYS is.

You got anything else?

Actually, yes, there's a 2 for 1 going here.

In post 774, Gamma Emerald wrote: Idrc if it’s faked, as long as he’s contributory I’m fine.

So where is Gamma Emerald now?

In post 1405, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 1402, Porkens wrote:there you finally had the guts to omgus.

that's a laughabel "recap"

jj is translating the fake post restriction so we can "get" it

I can see how that would make jjh scum but why Vecna as well?

This is a pretty direct contradiction we have going here. First up, Vecna is absolutely not contributory by any reasonable definition. So you could expect Gamma to push that shit now, right? But not only is that not happening, this whole interaction with porkens there didn't sit right with me even before I put those two posts next to each other. I don't see how Gamma could find it reasonable to suspect me for helping to drudge out whatever content we can get out of Vecna, while also not suspecting him because he is somehow contributing.

I understood how you could be scum for the recap post. That prolly wasn’t clear but w/e
As for Vecna he had been seemingly contributing to making himself less distracting but that went out the window when there was a wrongly formatted post. As for my why Vecna, I didn’t see how that post itself tied you to him.
VOTE: Vecna

In post 321, Chickadee wrote:

In post 301, Chickadee wrote:Can someone actually summarize why I'm scum?

I will send something to the first person to do so.

Cuz u said u had scumbuddies!

In post 321, Chickadee wrote:

In post 301, Chickadee wrote:Can someone actually summarize why I'm scum?

I will send something to the first person to do so.

In post 1512, Chickadee wrote:

In post 1503, Porkens wrote:Have the players are scummy that's not my fault

Go back through your scum list and ISO them please. I'm curious what happens if you try to town hunt within your scum pool, because your scum pool is seemingly too big.

Gooood that’s so much work. Who should I do first?

Vecna should live today. I’m intrigued. Chickadee is town I think, so I don’t really care about videos or whatever because I assume everyone is telling the truth any way. Uhhhhh I’ll do a chart tomorrow

VOTE: vecna
ugh fine

actually lemme look at jayjayaychninetooseven's post
hmm this is actually a good vote

I am the great cornholio! Are you threatening me!? My bungole will not !

I am the great Cornholio! Are you threatening me!? My bungole will not !