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[Joey_]

If I'm an investigative role, Mewtaph came up clean.

If I'm any other role, I visited Joey_.

I don't get why we're voting Seph. If Mew is Ascetic then THIS is more suspicious. Again, Investigative vs any other role is a crumb of an investigative, and is giving a clear on a virtually Ascetic.

Also, if the GS is the "strongest" Investigation role, then why the hell do we need another investigative to begin with?

Also also, it was Oka who started the hypo claiming process. If he's NOT an investigative, then why does he even bother?

wanna do hypoclaiming

VOTE: OkaPoka
Maybe because he indeed visited me? hes the one who proposed it maybe because hes the one who needs the hypo claim?

Yes.. I'm going to play my own game now. Feel free to sheep or disregard.

[Joey_]

If I'm an investigative role, Mewtaph came up clean.

If I'm any other role, I visited Joey_.

I don't get why we're voting Seph. If Mew is Ascetic then THIS is more suspicious. Again, Investigative vs any other role is a crumb of an investigative, and is giving a clear on a virtually Ascetic.

Also, if the GS is the "strongest" Investigation role, then why the hell do we need another investigative to begin with?

Also also, it was Oka who started the hypo claiming process. If he's NOT an investigative, then why does he even bother?

wanna do hypoclaiming

VOTE: OkaPoka

Yes.. I'm going to play my own game now. Feel free to sheep or disregard.

Maybe because he indeed visite me? hes the one who proposed it maybe because hes the one who needs the hypo claim? **

A50 its a very bad reason to vote the chicken but i do get that an investigative claim + calling mew not-asceitc is a cc to you

[Almost50]

Let him explicitly CC me then and I will volunteer to get lynched first.

[Almost50]

You won't get a better offer in the market.

[Almost50]

Why would a Doctor who saved his target need claims?

[PenguinPower]

Because they still hadn't teach me how to make gifs that don't disappear.

I mean...I'm not going to have you become the next me...

I don't typically play much on weekends, so I'll get to this tomorrow.

[OkaPoka]

I'm not cc ing but a50 isn't thinking about the bigger picture

[OkaPoka]

Everybody needs to participate in the hypochlorite and think deeply about the implications of their claims to make sure we actually provide proper cover for the prs.

[OkaPoka]

Also outing yourself with a no result/innocent kinda defeats the purpose. The point is that if a PR dies during nighttime we can work with some material.

[Almost50]

What bigger picture? I no longer have a feel of anything anymore. I probably should take a short break from Mafia, because everything is blur to me!

You know what? F it..

VOTE: Seph

I don't even know what the case on Seph is, but I have been defending him all of D1 while actively saying BEF AND Tchill were scum. Maybe I should be a sheep for today, and -hopefully- be the NK for tonight.

[Almost50]

Also outing yourself with a no result/innocent kinda defeats the purpose. The point is that if a PR dies during nighttime we can work with some material.

Yes, I agree it was a jerk move. I just lost it and acted like a jerk. I'm sorry.

[OkaPoka]

The purpose is that if PR dies during night we can have their results and vanillas provide cover to draw possible shots. Honestly we only need to do investigative hypoclaims but throwing some protective hypos bc nightkill on bef is kinda sketch to come from maf

[OkaPoka]

@DVA, thoughts specifically on PP and Gamma Emerald please?

[Almost50]

@DVA, thoughts specifically on PP and Gamma Emerald please?

Can I give my thought on Gamma?

[OkaPoka]

sure

[DVa]

My wallpost in 1247 hasn't fundamentally changed but I did find this post he made in response

So it's either BFE or Gamma.

slightly townie at the time, although only enough to move him up two or three ticks in my list

[Almost50]

Well, I already did. He's 100% Town. I would have added "pr 100% not reading" but he obviously does and did. He saw me addressing him in that crumb post. He then asked who has played with me before. Theoretically he could've blocked me instead of shooting me, but I won't ever understand him shooting BEF over anyone else. Even if he suspected BEF to be some PR, he could still have shot me and blocked BEF, leaving him defenseless for today's lynch. He knew 100% what my role was too, so it would have been much safer to get rid of the confirmed PR rather than hunt for one that may or may not be a PR, and of they were he wouldn't know what kind of PR he was anyway (he could've been a PGO for all Gamma knew).

[DVa]

Gamma's engagement back at pages 24-26 seemed strongly indicative of a town-Gamma thought process at the time. I've generally felt like I understood his reads and he hasn't been pinging me. His cases don't feel reachy. Still pretty happy with a townread there right now.

pedit: seems A50 can agree with me on something after all

[OkaPoka]

From your view: (Dva)

You are town
Gamma is town
Penguin is town

why would scum sephiroth abandon a PP wagon at L1?

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10537918

or if u click on my colored vcs its 1.19. That means that the wagon would be an almost all town wagon minus sephiroth on town.

Not saying sephiroth is town here, but throwing it out there.

[DVa]

I didn't say Penguin town, I said he made a slightly townie post. That moves him up into null, over scumread where he was before.

[OkaPoka]

why are we voting sephiroth before penguin tho

VOTE: penguinpower

[DVa]

why would scum sephiroth abandon a PP wagon at L1?

He had a two page 1v1 with A50? Like scum can't just ignore what is going on with other people in the game

[OkaPoka]

Yeah but voting is not necessary. If I were scum I'd troll A50 more here and try and get him madder until he does something dumb but try to moral highground him by saying like I'm above this nonsense and ur just being an idiot

but that assumes pp is town here.

i think we should lynch PP

[OkaPoka]

+PP's voting pattern is very lackluster and his iso is very boring.

[Almost50]

@Oka:

I have seen it often enough. It failed the last time, but was successful at least twice before that (since I started implementing it as a scum tell): Scum will always jump off the wagon they have been on early when it takes off. Whether the lynchee is Town or Scum is irrelevant. If they're Town it's to disassociate themselves with the mislynch. If they're Scum it's to delay/derail the wagon. Sometimes Scum will rejoin the wagon they had abandoned to appear less suspect (i.e. do not appear as the ones pushing it on the final VC) but that move is becoming old, so it's rarely done nowadays. The jumping off the wagon though does happen often enough still.

That said, I really don't know what I'm doing anymore, so I will probably sheep anyone. I just would rather it be Joey because he's a Mason.