burn those bridges when we cross them or however the saying goes
wisdom is forgotten hourglass'ing again
kokichi isn't a day 3 ic, lol.
tone reading is bad in general
.....
Kokichi was IC mayor in Starcraft 1 and he claimed Day 2 or 3 IC, iiirc.
Tell me how Wisdom’s play here reminds you of FH.
I disagree wrt to tonereading. It is extremely accurate with some players. Sheep is a really good example of this. His tone is completely different as scum. I had trouble reading him at first but after playing numerous games with him, I figured out that he was readable by tone.
And like I keep saying, he is tonally town here
Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:14 pm
by Flavor Leaf
@Nancy - I flat out stated that if Sheep is town he needs to reconsider, and yes, sheep can fake that kind of outrage as scum.
Quit hatcheting me, Nancy.
Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:41 pm
by Party Boat
In post 1604, Flavor Leaf wrote:@Nancy - I flat out stated that if Sheep is town he needs to reconsider, and yes, sheep can fake that kind of outrage as scum.
Quit hatcheting me, Nancy.
what does hatcheting mean for you? b/c like my assumption of something like 'mercilessly attacking you' is really not what she's doing considering that most of her posts have just been her disagreeing with you about sheep
In post 1604, Flavor Leaf wrote:@Nancy - I flat out stated that if Sheep is town he needs to reconsider, and yes, sheep can fake that kind of outrage as scum.
Quit hatcheting me, Nancy.
what does hatcheting mean for you? b/c like my assumption of something like 'mercilessly attacking you' is really not what she's doing considering that most of her posts have just been her disagreeing with you about sheep
I made it up in this game that finished recently, which turned out to be exactly what Scum AP was doing.
Basically, you know how chainsawing is when scum partner attacks the townie that’s pushing the partner?
It’s when someone is actively subtly discrediting, but not pushing the player that’s pushing a scum person.
Nancy is clearly hatcheting me, chopping away at my credibility by pushing her own self credibility, and protecting Sheep in its own right due to directly chopping at me
I hardcore disagree with everything Nancy has been saying.
I’ve been staying in the neighborhood that I think of anyone of the people in my neighborhood is scum, it’s Nancy. Unfortunate that Nancy is actively going against things now.
Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:15 pm
by Flavor Leaf
The more I think about it, Party’s becoming like near Lock town for me.
In post 1604, Flavor Leaf wrote:@Nancy - I flat out stated that if Sheep is town he needs to reconsider, and yes, sheep can fake that kind of outrage as scum.
Quit hatcheting me, Nancy.
what does hatcheting mean for you? b/c like my assumption of something like 'mercilessly attacking you' is really not what she's doing considering that most of her posts have just been her disagreeing with you about sheep
I made it up in this game that finished recently, which turned out to be exactly what Scum AP was doing.
Basically, you know how chainsawing is when scum partner attacks the townie that’s pushing the partner?
It’s when someone is actively subtly discrediting, but not pushing the player that’s pushing a scum person.
Nancy is clearly hatcheting me, chopping away at my credibility by pushing her own self credibility, and protecting Sheep in its own right due to directly chopping at me
I hardcore disagree with everything Nancy has been saying.
I’ve acrually held the idea for a long time that scum take extra care to discredit correct conftown. Is that the core of what Hatcheting is?
Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:33 pm
by Flavor Leaf
Yee
Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:12 pm
by TheBrie
Been busy. Work, life, I'm tired. Read to the bottom of page 58. Will finish catch, up but probably not all today, as I've still got things that ought to be done. Gut likeing Flavour feaf for now. Should do meta on Trekkie. I alread ythough town there, and this confirmation seems good, whatever Flavours alignement.
UNVOTE:
PSA: People who clean carsw before selling them are good for the world. People who don't make somone else annoyed. I shouldn't complain, because I'm getting paid, but still...
Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:18 pm
by TheBrie
End of 59. I see good points here. And if I hadn't mentioned, I'm reading PB as town.
In post 1466, Party Boat wrote:Flavors posting has been fine so far but I don't see anything that couldn't come from scum just genuinely looking for another scumteam
I can elaborate on this later if anyone wants but I really really dislike varsoon trying to excuse his earlier lurking/bad play with the cop claim when he was claiming it, and considering how adamant he seemed about sheep being scum and that his reason for claiming it was 'proving me wrong' about people being willing to vote sheep I really don't see why sheep claiming vanilla would give varsoon a town read on him - I think it's more likely that varsoon originally thought sheep was probable other scumteam and the unvote after the unclaim was just to try to stay alive when his claim started to fall apart.
actually i have one more thing I want to add to this
Most of the Varsoon/Gemerald conversation right as varsoon replaced out I think WAS genuine on varsoon's part but was also based on shit that is not relevant to varsoon's alignment (varsoon being genuinely upset about gemerald's 'as a person you're worse than me' comment)
Like the only reason I think could be legit to read varsoon as town for replacing out there is just: it would be shitty of varsoon to botch a fakeclaim as scum and then dump it on a replacement.
But I also think regardless of his alignment that varsoon has both not really been into this game and didn't want to deal with Gemerald negatively, and I kind of doubt he'd take this into serious consideration compared to those first two things but he also could have thought as scum that he was almost certainly going to get lynched for fakeclaiming and botching it if he stayed in the game but there'd be a reasonable chance of a replacement turning things around for his playerslot/team.
Or, and relating to something Flavour said mentioning Wisdom, what do people think of Wisdom? He's been less noticeable in this game, than I'm accustommed to. I'm not used to forgettign he's there. And when I remeber that worries me. While usually he just worries me in general.
Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:29 pm
by TheBrie
End of 61. The more Flavour insists he's obv town, the more suspicuoius I feel. On the other hand, He's got good points here, and my town read on Ganski is crumbling to pieces.
ganski
theta alpine
hebichan
wagonomics after the claim
Weak town
the brie
sheep
nancy drew
singletonking (I guess? this is barely more than null)
ausuka (my gut was scum but I don't trust my gut)
Eh
vaxkiller
wisdom
kokichi
Weak scum
purrcocet (again... barely more than null)
party boat
gamma emerald
0verkill
xtoxm
Scum
jaylow (his one post was godawful)
vonflare (this one is for the death miller claim then disappearing, should policy lynch if we don't decide on anyone else)
varsoon
Puts Varsoon, Vonflare, and a lurker as the scum, and then has xtoxm, Gamma, and party in lean scum.
Vonflare is lynchbait, party vs Varsoon are going at each other while in same neighborhood, xtoxm doesn’t make sense as scum with varsoon, that’s way too buddy buddy, and Gamma is the counter wagon.
VOTE: Light
I’m going to here. I await your response.
He's right, these reads, especially now, which is some hundreds of posts later, don't hold together. Ganksi's been quiet lately.
In post 1515, Flavor Leaf wrote:Although, I feel Sheep has scum claimed this game by staying on me, but yeah.
Sheep knows more than anyone in this game how controlling I can get as scum.
This wagon would not still be on me, or there would already be a counterwagon by now if I was scum.
When Sheep and I were scum together, I stated every little thing to him to help and try and benefit us all, including putting together a fake claim with wording, so he knows how controlling I can get as scum when in less than desirable positions.
On top of this, I know the majority of the players in this game and a scum hasn’t flipped yet. This implies I don’t have scum partners helping me out. You wanna know who doesn’t have scum partners? Town!
This game moves slow, so off wagonning, and conterwagonning, wouldn't happen at the usual rate.
And I don't understand the last paragraph at all. Why does no scum having flipped yet, mean Scum!flavour couldn't have scum partners helping him out? I don't get it.
Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:40 pm
by Wisdom
not ai for me to be forgettable
just means im not interested