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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:23 pm
by RadiantCowbells
Ok.

VOTE: DDL

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:32 pm
by Yachting n Socializing
In post 1596, CultOfAthena wrote:No clue, although I haven't really tried to figure out very hard.
I am not hiding it well, we have played lots together and you compliment me in a lot of post games and that's all the hinting I can really do. Our teams have worked together before. If not, ah well.

VOTE: Tarkus

He is also due for a prod @mod

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:34 pm
by RadiantCowbells
For the record after further consideration I think that I think that DDL is vastly more likely to flip scum than Tarkus. I thought Roomy's iso was bad, his replace out was bad, and the entire slot was scummy. Tarkus is lurking, yeah, but I'm not so sure that he's actually scum.
I am not hiding it well, we have played lots together and you compliment me in a lot of post games and that's all the hinting I can really do. Our teams have worked together before. If not, ah well.

VOTE: Tarkus

He is also due for a prod @mod
Can we do DDL instead? Tarkus has one post that feels super town to me and it's enough for me to discount all the lurker commentary against him.
I really, really,
really
find it difficult to mentally muster willpower to go against CoA anymore and I still feel strongly enough to want to disagree on that read. Shoshin also TRs him.

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:36 pm
by Yachting n Socializing
VOTE: Vedith

If you feel good about Tarkus I respect that enough to lynch Vedith over him, but I don't think DDL is scum and I don't want to vote there. If you lynch it without me fine, this game is poe'd enough that I'm not too concerned, but I think its a mistake.

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:36 pm
by CultOfAthena
I'm not asking you to sheep me, RC – you don't have to drop your Vedith vote. If
you're
confident in something there then I want to hear it exactly
because
I don't really know how to read Vedith.


Boats – is this another one of your "experimental alts", then?

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:39 pm
by Yachting n Socializing
I wouldn't call this one experimental, but you are correct with who I am.

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:44 pm
by RadiantCowbells
In post 1560, RadiantCowbells wrote:
Vedith is very probably a wolf, the story, the game, the movie.

In post 6, Vedith wrote:Hello.
I was a replace in.
But don't assume that my other body saw my role and didn't want to be Scum, maybe they just prefer not to be town!

Morality on the other hand has a very high chance of being Scum.
So, first off, why does someone replacing into a town slot feel the need to preemptively defend themselves against the accusation that their slot replaced out because of their alignment?
Second off, why does someone replacing into a town slot even start thinking along the lines that Morality has +wolf equity for replacing a slot when they know at least one slot replaced out as town?
In post 731, Vedith wrote:
In post 726, Yachting n Socializing wrote:This group plus RCE, that's 1 short of majority which wins.
Between these reads being spot on and Yellows I'm honestly stuck with who to go with right now.

But yeah I think the game is solved too.
This post just feels super, super wolfy on a gut/tone level. I can't say why in any more detail than that.
In post 650, Vedith wrote:Nah I'm not lynching Creature.
Reason too weak.
This is the most scummy feeling post of all the reads on Creature: this is at the height of Creature just being a scumfuck all over the thread and his defense of him is 'reason too weak.'
Note that he doesn't call Creature town, mind you, and when it takes effort to get people onto Creature he backs off the townread. He just doesn't want to be on the wagon.
I don't think anyone at this point makes this post as town but it makes a lot of sense from a scum PoV where he wants to not be on the wagon without dissuading it.

These are the big individual posts that make me think that he's a wolf. But a lot of my wolfread on him is not based off of individual posts but more based on the whole ISO.

1) There is no scumhunting in that ISO. Literally none. He comes up with random reads at times but there is no paper trail of him trying to sort someone and figure out their alignments.
2) Random ass townread on Morality who is scum. Other reads that just make no sense, such as the Creature one. Feels like scum coming up with tactical reads more than anything.
3) Heavy emphasis on staying alive as opposed to doing anything productive. Is that always inherently scummy? No. But in this case I absolutely feel like it's scum.

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:47 pm
by RadiantCowbells
BNH can you do some justice to your DDL townread?

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:57 pm
by Yachting n Socializing
In post 1183, Yachting n Socializing wrote:And I do actually agree that the reason for repping out is bullshit, but I tried calling that out, why did you nor RC (who apparently agreed) nor anybody agree with me? I was told I was wrong. And other than that DDL's play is fine, his reads are close to mine which is town indicative ime, and Roomy was null/very slight town for me too outside of the rep out.
Basically a lack of reason to scumread, I don't get the case on him at all. He is in the PoE pool which makes him an acceptable lynch but I think Tarkus, Vedith, Morality, possibly RCE / Yellow are more likely to flip scum than him. Maybe not RCE. I do fully agree with your town bloc otherwise. I have not got a bad vibe from his posts nor his predecessor, but you seem confident hence why I'd like you to case it if possible. I would make this post more coherent but I'm on 3 hours of sleep and have a lot of shit I'm dealing with so now isn't the time.

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:45 pm
by Tarkus
I'm visiting a friend cross country but I'll find some time to play tomorrow

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:50 pm
by Shoshin
I prefer lynching DDL over Tarkus if it comes to those two.

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:17 pm
by DrDolittle
I never want to hear how good you three are at town ever again when I flip. Your town block sucks and your reads suck.

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:26 pm
by Not Known 15
Tarkus has been prodded.

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:37 pm
by RadiantCowbells
In post 1611, DrDolittle wrote:I never want to hear how good you three are at town ever again when I flip. Your town block sucks and your reads suck.
lol...

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:40 pm
by RadiantCowbells
I don't want to lynch Vedith today anymore.

Morality is scum for sure but

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:52 pm
by RadiantCowbells
Where am I at now I wonder

RC
Shoshin
CoA
AuraTheBirb
Vorkuta
Creature

YellowSnow

Vedith
Tarkus

BoatsNHoes
RCEnigma

DDL
Morality

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:55 pm
by RadiantCowbells
let's put vedith a tier below tarkus actually

and i'm fine with that.

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:57 pm
by RadiantCowbells
hmm

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:02 pm
by RadiantCowbells

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:09 pm
by RadiantCowbells
ur gonna ask yourself... why the sudden boats n hoes drop

answer: i was more curious what would happen if i townread them than anything else.

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:10 pm
by RadiantCowbells
and a lot of my morality scumread has notably been the likely SvS interactions between them.

I also heavily scumread RCEnigma

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:11 pm
by RCEnigma
I still like BnH

VOTE: DDL

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:11 pm
by RCEnigma
Then get me lynched.

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:12 pm
by RadiantCowbells
I actually didn't write the post I was thinking about making about how CoA's presence in games made me far less motivated to actually push people because I feel like I'm better off just lynching her scumreads

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:13 pm
by RCEnigma
This is more like the RC games I've followed, so that's a good sign at least.