In post 1586, Lady Eventide wrote:Posts #90, #447, #468, #515, #583, #979, #1021, #1029, #1031, #1058, #1061 all mention bitmap before my first mention of them to you in #1110. You had mentioned them a LOT in multiple other posts, and you seem to both scum and town read them in this period. You start by voting them, then shift to a town read, then shift back to "Idk I guess" when I question you on it. It's frankly weird how often you mention them without ever actually engaging with them.
In post 298, Bitmap wrote:I don't feel like Lady Eventide's posts have been that from town lately. Too mechanical and no scumhunting.
VOTE: Lady Eventide
This is essentially why I voted here as I was skimming the thread earlier.
Basically, the slot had continued making fluff posts while actual content was being produced between Titus and gameplay, then her first "real post" was purely mechanical. She throws down a vote on Titus in #242 that's not attached to anything and seems to be just voting for the sake of putting a vote down on a wagon. The OMGUS vote in #271 shows there wasn't really any strong reasoning attached to the previous vote.
Nothing since then has improved the slot for me. The hop onto Pops is reads very awkward.
Idk what you consider "mentioning bitmap" but this is him talking to bitmap?
In post 468, Dannflor wrote:Yeah, Gamma's push on Bitmap is bad, but I think it's the town sort of bad.
I guess this is kind of a mention but he's talking about Gamma.
I like the reasoning against Senshi, yet it's also several slots that might townspew if there's town to spew, which leaves me somewhat torn.
Did your feelings on Bitmap change at all?
Inquiring about your read on bitmap... I guess this is kind of a mention.
In post 979, Dannflor wrote:I just don't know what makes DDL more deserving over Bitmap, HH, or Chaos Wind who she claimed to also not have a read on / or needed to contribute more
This is related to 4 names someone had mentioned? didnt go check exactly who mentioned what.
In post 1049, RCEnigma wrote:C.) I've been exploring a hypothetical why the distraction would occur and Dann narrowed it into "RCE thinks Sailor is bits partner." Which is not what I said.
How is this distraction orchestrated if that's not what you believe
Sailor as town purposefully tries to distract from the Bitmap wagon?
In post 1055, RCEnigma wrote:Playing devil's advocate the case can be made that scum took advantage of you vs Ephraim as the catalyst. Which is what I was getting at when I alluded to the implication on LE's slot.
Oh okay
I'm still not sure how that gets you to Bitmap is scum
Like I don't know what exactly about the conflict is tipping you off that it was either a distraction or utilized as a distraction
Inquiring yet again.
Fact checking, did you just iso and ctrl+f bitmap
-Tana
In post 1586, Lady Eventide wrote:Posts #90, #447, #468, #515, #583, #979, #1021, #1029, #1031, #1058, #1061 all mention bitmap before my first mention of them to you in #1110. You had mentioned them a LOT in multiple other posts, and you seem to both scum and town read them in this period. You start by voting them, then shift to a town read, then shift back to "Idk I guess" when I question you on it. It's frankly weird how often you mention them without ever actually engaging with them.
In post 298, Bitmap wrote:I don't feel like Lady Eventide's posts have been that from town lately. Too mechanical and no scumhunting.
VOTE: Lady Eventide
This is essentially why I voted here as I was skimming the thread earlier.
Basically, the slot had continued making fluff posts while actual content was being produced between Titus and gameplay, then her first "real post" was purely mechanical. She throws down a vote on Titus in #242 that's not attached to anything and seems to be just voting for the sake of putting a vote down on a wagon. The OMGUS vote in #271 shows there wasn't really any strong reasoning attached to the previous vote.
Nothing since then has improved the slot for me. The hop onto Pops is reads very awkward.
Idk what you consider "mentioning bitmap" but this is him talking to bitmap?
In post 468, Dannflor wrote:Yeah, Gamma's push on Bitmap is bad, but I think it's the town sort of bad.
I guess this is kind of a mention but he's talking about Gamma.
I like the reasoning against Senshi, yet it's also several slots that might townspew if there's town to spew, which leaves me somewhat torn.
Did your feelings on Bitmap change at all?
Inquiring about your read on bitmap... I guess this is kind of a mention.
In post 979, Dannflor wrote:I just don't know what makes DDL more deserving over Bitmap, HH, or Chaos Wind who she claimed to also not have a read on / or needed to contribute more
This is related to 4 names someone had mentioned? didnt go check exactly who mentioned what.
In post 1049, RCEnigma wrote:C.) I've been exploring a hypothetical why the distraction would occur and Dann narrowed it into "RCE thinks Sailor is bits partner." Which is not what I said.
How is this distraction orchestrated if that's not what you believe
Sailor as town purposefully tries to distract from the Bitmap wagon?
In post 1055, RCEnigma wrote:Playing devil's advocate the case can be made that scum took advantage of you vs Ephraim as the catalyst. Which is what I was getting at when I alluded to the implication on LE's slot.
Oh okay
I'm still not sure how that gets you to Bitmap is scum
Like I don't know what exactly about the conflict is tipping you off that it was either a distraction or utilized as a distraction
Inquiring yet again.
Fact checking, did you just iso and ctrl+f bitmap
-Tana
I think that's exactly what she did and it doesn't match her narrative of my making a bunch of noise about Bitmap in both directions
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:30 pm
by Dannflor
Like I'm not gonna pretend I didn't swap from a vote to gut town read back to a scum read just now, but that does not match what you've made it out to be Lady E
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:31 pm
by popsofctown
How many times did you use the word bitmap in reference to computer graphics that meticulously depict an image pixel by pixel?
If you say 0 you will crush my magical girl heart
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:31 pm
by popsofctown
Dannflor is trying to pocket me by using sane ways of referring to the LLD and Eventide slots
It is working
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:32 pm
by Dannflor
my kitten tactic didn't work out so I gotta swap to this
In post 1586, Lady Eventide wrote:Posts #90, #447, #468, #515, #583, #979, #1021, #1029, #1031, #1058, #1061 all mention bitmap before my first mention of them to you in #1110. You had mentioned them a LOT in multiple other posts, and you seem to both scum and town read them in this period. You start by voting them, then shift to a town read, then shift back to "Idk I guess" when I question you on it. It's frankly weird how often you mention them without ever actually engaging with them.
In post 298, Bitmap wrote:I don't feel like Lady Eventide's posts have been that from town lately. Too mechanical and no scumhunting.
VOTE: Lady Eventide
This is essentially why I voted here as I was skimming the thread earlier.
Basically, the slot had continued making fluff posts while actual content was being produced between Titus and gameplay, then her first "real post" was purely mechanical. She throws down a vote on Titus in #242 that's not attached to anything and seems to be just voting for the sake of putting a vote down on a wagon. The OMGUS vote in #271 shows there wasn't really any strong reasoning attached to the previous vote.
Nothing since then has improved the slot for me. The hop onto Pops is reads very awkward.
Idk what you consider "mentioning bitmap" but this is him talking to bitmap?
In post 468, Dannflor wrote:Yeah, Gamma's push on Bitmap is bad, but I think it's the town sort of bad.
I guess this is kind of a mention but he's talking about Gamma.
I like the reasoning against Senshi, yet it's also several slots that might townspew if there's town to spew, which leaves me somewhat torn.
Did your feelings on Bitmap change at all?
Inquiring about your read on bitmap... I guess this is kind of a mention.
In post 979, Dannflor wrote:I just don't know what makes DDL more deserving over Bitmap, HH, or Chaos Wind who she claimed to also not have a read on / or needed to contribute more
This is related to 4 names someone had mentioned? didnt go check exactly who mentioned what.
In post 1049, RCEnigma wrote:C.) I've been exploring a hypothetical why the distraction would occur and Dann narrowed it into "RCE thinks Sailor is bits partner." Which is not what I said.
How is this distraction orchestrated if that's not what you believe
Sailor as town purposefully tries to distract from the Bitmap wagon?
In post 1055, RCEnigma wrote:Playing devil's advocate the case can be made that scum took advantage of you vs Ephraim as the catalyst. Which is what I was getting at when I alluded to the implication on LE's slot.
Oh okay
I'm still not sure how that gets you to Bitmap is scum
Like I don't know what exactly about the conflict is tipping you off that it was either a distraction or utilized as a distraction
Inquiring yet again.
Fact checking, did you just iso and ctrl+f bitmap
-Tana
Yep. And I don't deny that a lot of these mentions are tangential. It's just... I would expect that someone who you've mentioned offhandedly in 1/7 of your posts, and placed a vote on,
might actually be someone you should be invested in solving? Just maybe??
@Dannflor: Yeah, I'm not saying that you were pushing them or anything; if anything I'm surprised that you manage to mention them this much without ever actually... coming around to focus on them? Sorry, I was a bit incredulous at your original statement due to knowing that I'd seem multiple comments from you referencing Bitmap, but even with the initial shock having worn off I still think there's something of substance here to look into.
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:34 pm
by Tana and Ephraim
There are comments with each quote in the spoilerbox btw
-Tana
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:35 pm
by popsofctown
If Tana fools with stuff like this as scum she efforts enough at scum she can just beat me at mafia that's fine
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:35 pm
by popsofctown
I don't see why I should worry about this slot
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:36 pm
by popsofctown
Sue me
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:37 pm
by Titus
Katsuki, vote Bitmap please
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:38 pm
by Dannflor
In post 1607, Lady Eventide wrote:Yep. And I don't deny that a lot of these mentions are tangential. It's just... I would expect that someone who you've mentioned offhandedly in 1/7 of your posts, and placed a vote on, might actually be someone you should be invested in solving? Just maybe??
Okay, now that's a little more reasonable.
You mentioned you're town reading Bitmap right now? Why is that?
I think his most recent scum read on Pops is really weak.
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:39 pm
by Dannflor
In post 1609, popsofctown wrote:If Tana fools with stuff like this as scum she efforts enough at scum she can just beat me at mafia that's fine
there are enough reasons to town read that slot that I don't think it's worth reconsidering until lylo
In post 1609, popsofctown wrote:If Tana fools with stuff like this as scum she efforts enough at scum she can just beat me at mafia that's fine
there are enough reasons to town read that slot that I don't think it's worth reconsidering until lylo
With a slot like this I tend toward the mindset "If this slot is alive in LyLo it's not one of the options, unless something dramatic has happened"
That might only be a semantic difference though.
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:42 pm
by popsofctown
Dannflor are you a Heart of Light
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:50 pm
by Lady Eventide
Continuing from my previous post: Instead I got this weird halfassed reply from Dann where he says he's not interested in bitmap and doesn't understand why I care about them. (First in #1110 where he says that my request "seems random", and then more elaborately in #1330, where he admits to having no strong read but still refuses to put one together. It's now been almost 24 hours since then, and I still do not have my analysis from Dann. This does not endear them to me.)
Pedit @Dannflor:
It's frankly a gutread based on tone, and a bit stale besides at this point, given that I've reconsidered RCE scum. The fact that you've apparently reconsidered your townread makes me want to reread them again; I don't have a solid read here either, though their posts seem individually solve-y and good? I definitely do need to have another look at them. Sigh.
... looking at the pops interaction, I have to say I agree with you. The continued long-running suspicion of Pops throughout the whole day so far is frankly starting to give me the heebie-jeebies; I think they may be ML-bait, so the push itself is potentially bad even before I look at the reasoning and find it questionable. I also don't like that Bitmap bothered to reply "no" to my question of "does anyone townread this" re: Katsuki; that's a useless comment, but it feels like the kind of thing that you do to look town as scum. And their refusal to answer questions about their early play is also NAGL.
... innnnnteresting.
Also, should I take it that this means you're now seriously endorsing a scumread of Bitmap?
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:54 pm
by Tana and Ephraim
In post 1613, Dannflor wrote:I think his most recent scum read on Pops is really weak.
You know, I kind of agree with this. My experience with him in Hidden Speakeasy, at least he had good reasons for his scumreads, even if he only voiced them to me.
-Tana
In post 1617, Lady Eventide wrote:Instead I got this weird halfassed reply from Dann where he says he's not interested in bitmap and doesn't understand why I care about them. (First in #1110 where he says that my request "seems random", and then more elaborately in #1330, where he admits to having no strong read but still refuses to put one together. It's now been almost 24 hours since then, and I still do not have my analysis from Dann. This does not endear them to me.)
It was weird and halfassed because I frankly did not want to engage with you after I felt you were misinterpreting several of my posts.
I still feel like you're doing that to an extent but I'm making an effort to engage with you because I now think you're more likely to be town.
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:56 pm
by popsofctown
What's wrong with engaging with scum?
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:56 pm
by Dannflor
In post 1617, Lady Eventide wrote:Also, should I take it that this means you're now seriously endorsing a scumread of Bitmap?