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In post 1596, jjh927 wrote:Ank, why is Dannflor so low down on your readslist

In post 1602, Aristophanes wrote:I just read through UT's ISO and he has a higher percentage of helpfilul posts than jjh does.

In post 1601, jjh927 wrote:That's not very specific

In post 1592, Formerfish wrote:

In post 1586, Dannflor wrote:imo, everything she's done from the beginning of the game has been town motivated. #275 generates content out of almost nothing and is a good way to help move the game out of RVS.

How do you feel about LLD putting pressure on a slot that she clearly thought that Ali might be indicating that xof was a mason. LLD even went as far as kinda making an ultimatum to Ali that she tell us if xof is a mason to get LLD to pivot. It even got to the point where LLD points out thats what she was doing, and when she did it felt forced because of course thats what she was trying to do, but why? Why not just take Ali at her word for at least the first day and not suicide on xof!scum paranoia?

In post 1059, the worst wrote:Menalque Ankamius is doubling down. Either:

- This is a fake read she doesn't believe in and she is faking because she's scum => why is she doing this? I don't think she's going to mislynch you as scum here and shading you rn only makes you look unassociated, it's fairly unlikely to cause a shiny shiny day ending lynch. If you're town and think she's scum what makes you think her take on you is fake?

- She's town, thinks you're scum and hasn't seen anything which convinces her otherwise.

For context I've just seen scum!Ank powerscummung to push a townie in another game. I have pretty fresh meta of Ank pushing someone in argumentative bad faith because she wanted him mislynched. Her approach to you here feels a lot more earnest and organic than it did there; either she's scumming well or this is town!Ank. I'm happy to be convinced either way, but I suspect you're maybe voting her for frustrating you--could you have another think about this?

In post 1090, Formerfish wrote:

In post 1038, Iconeum wrote:

In post 1036, the worst wrote:his kind of tunnel is firmly within your scumrange

did you see that i was pushing chennis as well?

Something about this post pings me. Like he gets accused of tunneling and that it would be in his scum range, and Icons response is that he has also been pushing Chenny. I looked back and saw that Icon has talked about Chen a bit, but there is nothing worth breaking into a hot dog eating contest to report.

And the idea that Icon caught Gamma in a slip because he sat with Marias post for a bit and ended up not liking it, is ridiculous on its face. Are you telling me that you never read a post and felt it was ok, and then had it niggling away at your brain saying something felt off or something wasnt quite right, and then when you looked at things again it made more sense with other stuff being taken into account?

In post 1044, Ankamius wrote:Someone check me on the worst

I'm starting to townread him and I want to be sure I'm not being charmed like I usually am when he's scum

Be weary. The fact that he hasnt said a fucking word to me yet is as much of a scum claim as anyone has made so far. Ducky, you cant dodge me. I can smell your fear.

In post 1046, Menalque wrote:1.now, go ahead and read me. I'm saying that Ank saying she was SRing me at the time she first voted me for my entire play when I'd done nothing that would be a good reason to see me as anything other than null is weird

2. I'm not saying you shouldn't push me, I'm saying you should be aware of that as we go and that I think it makes scum inclined towards pushing me

3. who says I'm not sorting people? this is being very productive in terms of sorting you and ank so far. when it dries up then I'll start sorting elsewhere

1. I've always disliked when people try to discredit other peoples reads by saying that what they are based on shouldnt exist. You are playing in a way that is coming off scummy. If you are then you are being obvious scum and if you arent then you are being bad town and you should stop it.

2. Just because you say scum are more inclined to push you doesnt make that gospel. If you were town you would be saying not to push you.

3. What are your current reads?

In post 1048, Menalque wrote:you're townier than you were before and ank is scummier

I feel the opposite. Can you explain why you feel this way a bit instead of just making a naked statement about reads without any of your thought process evident.

Pedit- Chick- are you willing to work with the town and make a choice, or are we going to offer our opinions and you are going to do whatever you want to do? And whos in your top two tiers right now?

In post 1603, Dannflor wrote:

In post 1602, Aristophanes wrote:I just read through UT's ISO and he has a higher percentage of helpfilul posts than jjh does.

what are you qualifying as helpful posts

In post 1604, Dannflor wrote:also what exactly made you change from "I'm completely null on jjh" to "he's been actively bad"

In post 1608, jjh927 wrote:Ari, your nonsense metrics are troubling

In post 1574, GreyICE wrote:

In post 1570, popsofctown wrote:

In post 1567, GreyICE wrote:Oh no, UT has been a useless git in like 50% of the games I played with him. This is not "outside his meta".

It's just at some point losing to a player playing like that hurts more than losing to a player who is not sucking like a black hole.

Oh, unvote then. I'm also not in the market keeping certain people from winning. Play to your win condition.

I'm still pretty sure Lexi is my win condition. I'm just NOT sure that UT is not also scum. And the fact is, he's been on site since 2003. He has seen bigger dick waving contests than this. He's seen games with ABR and Fate in them. He's seen games with Fate and Reaper Charlie in them. Hell, I'm positive that he's seen games with me, Reckoner, and Fate, back when we were all on hair triggers, and there were many who would throw in to the ring besides.

That specifically felt like an excuse. In a 20:7, any given player should have a 25% chance to flip scum. Pine knows that at a minimum UT won't wig out and give away scumbuddies, and he's adept at surviving, and he at least doesn't mind being scum. That moves him up to a 33%. This? This is starting to feel more like a 50%, and 50% is where I get very happy to pull the trigger - if we only do 50/50 lynches for the entire game, our win is practically assured.

In post 1609, Jingle wrote:

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In post 1612, Aristophanes wrote:I didn't remember anything AI from him. Now I know why.

In post 1595, Dannflor wrote:

In post 632, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I have Xof!Scum dead to rights here, and you're calling her completely town. Is this a kneejerk reaction protecting a player you don't want to see die for personal reasons? Yes or No.

hm is this what you're talking about?

I read that more as having a very sure scum read and wanting to make sure Ali's defense wasn't for non-game related reasons

if that's not it can you quote the ultimatum for me?

In post 632, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Alisae, my points on Xof are completely valid and fit well within the range of Pine's picks.

I want you to look me dead in the metaphorical internet eye and tell me this isn't just you being protective of a player who is coming back to the game after a time away from it.

In post 632, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:So, if you tell me this is for real and you actually town read Xof I will switch and find some other scumfuck to nail to the wall but know this

In post 632, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I know you're town but that don't make you fucking god. I'm willing to play ball but if I find out you've just been straight lying to ensure I push reads you approve instead of reads you don't I swear to god I will treat you like Pine this game, cause you'll be more anti-town than he is.

In post 632, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:So let me ask this plainly

I have Xof!Scum dead to rights here, and you're calling her completely town. Is this a kneejerk reaction protecting a player you don't want to see die for personal reasons? Yes or No.

In post 653, Alisae wrote:I wanna get back to you on this later and I am kinda just saying atm “I read this but I can’t respond to it atm”

In post 1388, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:No kidding I was trying to talk to you. I wanted to fuckong know if your shit on Xof was a mason thing e
Without asking uou if she was a fuckong mason. I needed to know if she was town or just likable so i could pivot.

In post 1620, jjh927 wrote:Huh that's a fair point FF

I'd kinda assumed that kind of thing could slip past some people