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Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:02 pm
by Datisi
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:03 pm
by Menalque
In post 1589, Iconeum wrote: In post 1587, Menalque wrote:
The greater part of your argument recently has been all about my not hammering implying scum!me not wanting to be on the wrong side of a town flip
please don't cherry pick
So those are all of your posts arguing that the hammer situation is scummy/pushing me for that vs what I think are about two posts including the other points you made on this page
Go ahead and explain how that’s cherrypicking
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:03 pm
by Iconeum
good job you managed to quote my ISO
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:04 pm
by Menalque
No, but mildly irritated that I’ve woken up to an L-1 wagon that is 100% scum motivated
So if it was a joke then, yes, I missed it
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:05 pm
by Iconeum
39 40 initial callout
43 the vote
45 simple defence from Wimpy
49 is where you ask how serious the vote is
53 and
55 are explanations both serious and RVS'y from Wimpy
You decide that Wimpy calling something violating site rules comes from scum and even call Wimpy mislynch bait because you know this in
58
68 you actually are questioning Wimpy
Over the course of several posts, there's a 1v1 between Wimpy and Datisi, where Menal keeps doubting Datisi but ends up thinking WImpy is the scum here? Doesn't make sense.
90 is still Wimpy being towny trying to be helpfull
But
91 is where the bad part starts.
95 on out you have clearly already made up your mind about nothing at all.
Wimpy even calls you out on this in
99 and begins full OMGUS mode in
101
Even in
108 you repeat that the foundation of your scumread there is basicly RVS entry into the game.
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Everything, pages upon pages upon pages of crap you spit out against Wimpy was not you sorting. It was a crappy push, leaving absolutely no room or opportunity for Wimpy to engage with you and make you reconsider. Yeah it was a push in bad faith.
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:06 pm
by Datisi
If you honestly thought I'd give legit intent after being the only one defending you there then
Tho it was prob a v bad thing to post I'm sorry
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:06 pm
by Menalque
You mean the significant section of your ISO that demonstrates exactly how much of your push on me has been about my intent and then my not hammering when you’re claiming that saying that was the greater part of your push on me was me cherrypicking?
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:08 pm
by Iconeum
In post 1603, Menalque wrote:No, but mildly irritated that I’ve woken up to an L-1 wagon that is 100% scum motivated
4 players on your wagon in a 9 player game calling you scum
how is that 100% scum motivated
Also, if I'm the 4th vote on the wagon, and you think I'm scum, who am I scum with? Because it has to be in the first 3 votes if you want it to be scum motivated.
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:10 pm
by Datisi
Icon didn't you say in
695 that you can see why Mena was SRing Wimpy? And it wasn't just about the entrance?
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:11 pm
by Iconeum
So your scumteam is now in
(Wicked/Ali/Luca/Ico)
You call the 4 votes on you 100% scum motivated
I'm scum according to you
So with Wicked(???), Ali or Luca?
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:12 pm
by Menalque
In post 1607, Iconeum wrote: In post 1603, Menalque wrote:No, but mildly irritated that I’ve woken up to an L-1 wagon that is 100% scum motivated
4 players on your wagon in a 9 player game calling you scum
how is that 100% scum motivated
Also, if I'm the 4th vote on the wagon, and you think I'm scum, who am I scum with? Because it has to be in the first 3 votes if you want it to be scum motivated.
Scum motivated isn’t necessarily who first voted it’s about how much scum is on it + who’s pushed it
And for what reasons they’ve pushed it
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:12 pm
by Iconeum
In post 1608, Datisi wrote:Icon didn't you say in
695 that you can see why Mena was SRing Wimpy? And it wasn't just about the entrance?
And I didn't scumread Menal at that time.
Also, I could see the case yes. But that case was made AFTER he already made up his mind as demonstrated in my case here.
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:12 pm
by Iconeum
In post 1610, Menalque wrote: In post 1607, Iconeum wrote: In post 1603, Menalque wrote:No, but mildly irritated that I’ve woken up to an L-1 wagon that is 100% scum motivated
4 players on your wagon in a 9 player game calling you scum
how is that 100% scum motivated
Also, if I'm the 4th vote on the wagon, and you think I'm scum, who am I scum with? Because it has to be in the first 3 votes if you want it to be scum motivated.
Scum motivated isn’t necessarily who first voted it’s about how much scum is on it + who’s pushed it
And for what reasons they’ve pushed it
I jumped on, I didn't push it to L-2 before voting
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:13 pm
by Iconeum
I even expressed my concern about wicked being on it
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:13 pm
by Iconeum
So who pushed your wagon?
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:16 pm
by Datisi
So what happened with there being LOADS of AI things in Mena's iso? If you thought he was town despite all that before then this change seems weird
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:16 pm
by Iconeum
why are you townreading menal exactly?
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:18 pm
by Iconeum
In post 1615, Datisi wrote:So what happened with there being LOADS of AI things in Mena's iso? If you thought he was town despite all that before then this change seems weird
No, you know what's weird? Menal's entire ISO.
His push on Wimpy. His refusal to discuss any other slot other then you. His attempted and continuous pocketing towards you.
His entire play wrt the intent.
How do you townread
any
of that ?
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:20 pm
by Iconeum
@Datisi who's the scumteam according to you rn?
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:22 pm
by Datisi
While not as much, he's discussed other slots. He's presented a PoE. Wimpy had legit scummy moments. The play around the hammer was weird but I don't think it's scummy.
Pedit: oh joy yeah ask me that.
I don't fucking know. I don't think scum is in Datisi/Luca/Mena/Icon/emps atm. This is the best I can give you.
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:25 pm
by Menalque
In post 716, Iconeum wrote:I literally think Town!Wimpy has been forced into a corner by Menal, who used a semi-good early case but then just dicked Wimpy into this.
You can just reread Menal and see for yourself just how much of a [REDACTED BY ICONEUM] he's been and how he handled his scumread.
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:26 pm
by Iconeum
well yeah
town clearly isn't alligned here
and there's a big problem this game wrt wagons
wicked was widely scumread but we couldn't even manage an L-1
Aldus got to L-1 but refused to claim and is now town because of that?
Menal at L-1 but you clearly disagree with that
One of us is wrong here
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:27 pm
by Menalque
I don’t think your progression makes sense icon
I think you’re forced to walk back your early on analysis of my case on wimpy in order to justify your arguments here
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:27 pm
by Iconeum
In post 1050, Menalque wrote:Especially given the lack of daytalk which I keep forgetting is a thing
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:27 pm
by Datisi
Do you still wanna go wicked?