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Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:37 am
by lilith2013
meh

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:39 am
by the worst
sorry. refer username etc. :<
In post 1471, lilith2013 wrote:paging duckling, dsjstr, and datisi
re. Aldus?
while I was trying to pick Pooky's brain I noticed that they felt Righteously Fury that Aldus was scum and wanted to see where that went; the more I looked back over it the less I felt like I had any reason to actually townread Aldus

I feel like I've spoken abt this already

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:42 am
by the worst
In post 1477, lilith2013 wrote:
In post 1375, the worst wrote:i'm somewhere around

tw
dats
ss
u
bugs
pooky (hard softed tpr + not s/s with aldus)
dsj
skitter
aldus
@duckling the way you talk about DC makes me feel like he should have been lower in your readslist. where’s the null line for you?
how so?

the null line is low; falls somewhere around Pooky/dsj

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:43 am
by lilith2013
In post 1397, the worst wrote:DonCo's issue W me not wanting to main hunt them was also like...low-key repulsive

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:44 am
by skitter30
oh yeah that was a strange take too, i agree

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:44 am
by the worst
In post 1479, bugspray wrote:
In post 1389, the worst wrote:can you talk to me about sorta town on me and skitter?
also hypothetically assume I hypothetically claimed hypothetical masons with pooky, hypothetically, who would your hypothetical scumreads be in this instance?
ping
pls don't ruin the magic
(*・‿・)ノ⌒*:・゚✧

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:44 am
by the worst
In post 1603, lilith2013 wrote:
In post 1397, the worst wrote:DonCo's issue W me not wanting to main hunt them was also like...low-key repulsive
not alignment indicative
genuinely turns me off them as a player.

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:45 am
by lilith2013
Okay

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:46 am
by lilith2013
In post 1604, skitter30 wrote:oh yeah that was a strange take too, i agree
Was this in response to me quoting the line about DC? Or something else

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:46 am
by skitter30
In post 1608, lilith2013 wrote:
In post 1604, skitter30 wrote:oh yeah that was a strange take too, i agree
Was this in response to me quoting the line about DC? Or something else
About the quote you just pulled about dc

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:47 am
by lilith2013
In post 1601, the worst wrote:sorry. refer username etc. :<
In post 1471, lilith2013 wrote:paging duckling, dsjstr, and datisi
re. Aldus?
while I was trying to pick Pooky's brain I noticed that they felt Righteously Fury that Aldus was scum and wanted to see where that went; the more I looked back over it the less I felt like I had any reason to actually townread Aldus

I feel like I've spoken abt this already
I did say I was going to ask, so like...

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:48 am
by the worst
oh yeah
shit
I didn't adequately vigorously psychologically prepare myself

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:50 am
by lilith2013
Why do you think aldus/skitter are scum together?

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:51 am
by skitter30
i feel p good with town!lilith and town!ss i think, btw

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:52 am
by the worst
In post 1504, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1500, lilith2013 wrote:can you explain the pooky read?
dats push was in bad faith and felt like he was more worried about being right/winning the argument than determining if dats was scum
dislike trying to end the day last night
can you talk about why you think this is scum indicative? :/ I don't think Pooky thinks they're going to get a datisi elim there; it read like datisi annoyed them more than they were trying to kill datisi.

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:54 am
by the worst
In post 1612, lilith2013 wrote:Why do you think aldus/skitter are scum together?
I scumread them both and don't think they're not associated.

don't feel like, high confidence that I have the scumteam PoE'd but I'm pretty sure there's at least one scum there and literally just would not be surprised if that's exactly it.

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:58 am
by the worst
In post 1582, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1205, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i dont think donc actually believed that koba dayvigged him
This
THANK YOU x2

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:58 am
by lilith2013
In post 1613, skitter30 wrote:i feel p good with town!lilith and town!ss i think, btw
Please explain

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:59 am
by lilith2013
In post 1616, the worst wrote:
In post 1582, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1205, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i dont think donc actually believed that koba dayvigged him
This
THANK YOU x2
But you were still townreading DC?

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:01 am
by skitter30
@ lilith:

you feel sufficiently different to city and jk++ and it isn't multiball (at least, i'm assuming), so i feel p good calling you town

ss i'm not quite solid on but i thought dc was town + he doesn't feel stilted really in the way i caught him in jk++

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:01 am
by skitter30
tw most of the things you've brought up @me i addressed a few pages down, so lmk if you want anything else from me when you get there

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:02 am
by lilith2013
tbh I’m slightly concerned that no one questioned me locktowning SS except for Datisi and that wasn’t even that much but I’m just going to assume it’s because dk’s slot was pretty universally townread and take a nap instead of trying to outthink my initial lockread

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:02 am
by the worst
In post 1589, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1442, the worst wrote:I don't think drawing the difference between faking a read on me to get out of RVS to look good & faking a scumread here is actually pertinent to your meta?
OK i'm going to respond to all of your posts with basically this point ^

I think that this is incredibly pertinent to my meta. I wouldn't pick a fight (that I might need to carry through to an elim) with someone that I was in any way worried I would lose to. Scum!me is actually ... slightly scared of town!you. I would not try to push you to an elim. I would try to pocket or like circle-around but I would not make a serious push on you.

There are many, many other people in this pl that I'm very confident scum!me could push to an elim in this gamestate. I would not have made my first serious push on the game on you

In mbos it was not a serious push, it was the sort of push that would have 'naturally developed' a bit but would have ultimately ended up as a townread because it is not in my best interest to be at odds with town!you when i'm scum.

In my internal ranking of who would make a good push as scum, town you is very, very, very down on the totem pole.

(TM was a massive exception, not the rule at all)
But your push on me here feels like you're working around the fact you want me eliminated; you hedged for a while then voted me when I fell out of favour with other vocal players.

I'm the one who started this engagement and is outright scumreading you, not the inverse. :/ I think resisting the PoE is always your m.o., but I don't think you had a choice about this conversation.

pedit: will keep reading ya

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:07 am
by skitter30
In post 1057, skitter30 wrote:VOTE: tw

Imma vote here for now

He mentioned dayvigs at least twice earlygame so i believe it

I dont like the shot tho
I started pushing you way back here so saying that you started this engagement is a bit ? to me
I maintain that this is not the push i would have made at this point as scum, and that your assessment of how scum!me would assess this poe is quite off

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:08 am
by the worst
In post 1618, lilith2013 wrote:
In post 1616, the worst wrote:
In post 1582, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1205, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i dont think donc actually believed that koba dayvigged him
This
THANK YOU x2
But you were still townreading DC?
I think I've spoken about it before; I don't think whether DC fell for the reaction test was AI, they were towny before it and they were townier after it and I feel like we tasted the air the same way during the rxn test.

Dkko was really annoying. I think Donco felt similarly. But dkko wasn't scummy. After trying to legitimise it I realised & crumbed that I thought donco didn't believe it; donco didn't acknowledge that or try to 'point score' during the exchange even though they were frustrated at dkko. I think the rxn comes from a place that feels urgency to solve the game regardless of whether or not they thought they were dayvigged.

Anyone who was cynical about that imo comes with a "ok 15% chance this is real" vibe and given I feel like donco read the situation the same way I thought his reaction was really earnest.