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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:51 pm
by Tigerente
In post 1593, SirCakez wrote:With the knowledge of SK i don't think the hammer clears Heaven
ok but we agree he isn't groupscum tho, right?

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:51 pm
by Tigerente
In post 1599, Infinity 324 wrote:I'm trying to figure out why kerset was voteparked on A50 for so long and I can't really figure it out, I think it might point towards a weaker 3rd partner
i'm more confused why a50 was parked on kerset tbh

~ skitter

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:59 pm
by Infinity 324
Fair enough

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:01 pm
by Tigerente
honestly i still don't get why the kerset wagon took off at all ....
maybe cakez realy is scum pr (gf) and a goon going down was better than a pr going down

~ skitteR

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:47 pm
by Umlaut
VOTE: SirCakez

I think the game progresses best if we resolve this

Sorry I'm being so lazy, it's just because... I'm lazy

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:53 pm
by Umlaut
I don't think the Kerset yeet was anywhere near foregone-conclusion enough to warrant a double bus. Most likely the remaining maf was off the wagon. Ruling out players who are dead or conftown, that means maf in {Pooky, Cakez}. I'm quite happy to flip them both.

Also gambler's fallacy says it's way past time for Cakez to be scum in a game with me.

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:02 pm
by Datisi
maybe it was a double bus exactly because the case on kerset was relatively weak and it wouldn't have gone through otherwise :thonk:

in all seriousness, shouldn't umlaut call out his target for tonight in advance, in case we flip scum today?

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:06 pm
by Umlaut
Yeah, probably a good idea. I'm happy to listen to the wisdom of the crowd on that one but as of now I'm just going to block whichever of {Cakez, Pooky} we don't flip (Cakez if we don't flip either one)

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:27 pm
by Umlaut
In post 1400, Menalque wrote:
A mod error was discovered in the setup. One role PM was incorrect. That player will not receive a corrected role PM and the game will continue with this public disclosure.
Trying to decide whether Menalque would use this wording if the role PM that was "incorrect" was a VT role PM that should have been an additional PR

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:30 pm
by Umlaut
Open 680, also a C9++ game, was abandoned because the mod mistakenly interpreted a single B as generating a single 1-Shot Roleblocker and gave me that role instead of the unlimited Roleblocker role I should have gotten. (That's the way all the letters C, D, and M work, so he probably just assumed B worked the same way without looking carefully.)

Menalque could have made an analogous error and thought BB was a single unlimited Roleblocker as opposed to a Roleblocker + 1-Shot Roleblocker.

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:30 pm
by PenguinPower
Mmm - that would usually be done in consultation and is a pretty angleshooty thing to present.

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:31 pm
by Umlaut
In post 1609, Umlaut wrote:That's the way all the letters C, D, and M work
C, D, and V, rather. M of course works differently

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:32 pm
by Umlaut
In post 1610, PenguinPower wrote:that would usually be done in consultation
I don't know what this means?

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:32 pm
by PenguinPower
In post 1603, Tigerente wrote:honestly i still don't get why the kerset wagon took off at all ....
maybe cakez realy is scum pr (gf) and a goon going down was better than a pr going down

~ skitteR
Are you kidding me? Literally....

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:34 pm
by PenguinPower
In post 1612, Umlaut wrote:
In post 1610, PenguinPower wrote:that would usually be done in consultation
I don't know what this means?
Mod errors are usually reviewed with someone - either a co-mod/reviewer/listmod - not done in isolation.

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:37 pm
by Umlaut
Oh, you mean
what to say
would have been done in consultation (so whether
Menalque specifically
would word it in that way is not a meaningful indicator).

I didn't really mean to try and read his mind specifically, I was just wondering whether the wording could allow for the case where we have one more or fewer VT than expected.

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:37 pm
by PenguinPower
Yeah - I just don’t think that’s a worthwhile path to go down.

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:40 pm
by SirCakez
In post 1595, Infinity 324 wrote:I mean you don't know who's mafia and who isn't
This
Dwlee's defense is ridiculous

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:41 pm
by SirCakez
In post 1600, Tigerente wrote:
In post 1593, SirCakez wrote:With the knowledge of SK i don't think the hammer clears Heaven
ok but we agree he isn't groupscum tho, right?
Yeah i don't think scum want Kerset dead there when I was on the table as an elim

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:42 pm
by SirCakez
Trying to pick for the mod error is a bad idea

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:44 pm
by Dwlee99
In post 1617, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1595, Infinity 324 wrote:I mean you don't know who's mafia and who isn't
This
Dwlee's defense is ridiculous
You're scum so I don't care what you think.

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:45 pm
by SirCakez
Infinity is not scum and says the same thing lol what a bad retort

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:48 pm
by Dwlee99
Like here's the deal: I caught scum, I hard pushed it, I was right, I feel like I'm pretty much obvtowning here and that you think I'm scummy is scum-indicative itself fmpov.
SirCakez wrote:Infinity is not scum and says the same thing lol what a bad retort
Infinity isn't going around being dumb though.

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:49 pm
by Dwlee99
I'm burden of proficiency-ing you right now, I don't think town!cakez scumreads me here.

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 3:20 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
I think vig and rb should both claim their targets beforehand right?