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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:51 am
by Gamma Emerald
Umlaut, who do you think is mafia if Chaos is town?

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:54 am
by DkKoba
guys... im mason with 2 mason partners wtf 1 :oops: :oops: :oops: :o

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:58 am
by Gamma Emerald
please don’t

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:01 am
by Not_Mafia
What if there's just 3 mafia neighbours and they have 2 PTs and it's just mod wifom

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:03 am
by Not_Mafia
If there was a way to out scum just from this set-up spec it wouldn't have passed review, so it either gives info to the scumteam or it's just mod trolling

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:04 am
by Not_Mafia
I'm gonna go shower now after making a serious post

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:15 am
by DkKoba
NM u deserve to be jailed for seriousposting this much

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:15 am
by DkKoba
disgusting

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:20 am
by Not_Mafia
Lock me up and throw away the key

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:29 am
by Titus
In post 1608, Not_Mafia wrote:Lock me up and throw away the key
No.

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:41 am
by Not_Mafia
Why not?

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:55 am
by MathBlade
In post 1599, Umlaut wrote:Welcome to the game, still more replacement(s)
In post 1464, MathBlade wrote:VOTE: Alch

Experiment time!
In post 1465, MathBlade wrote:VOTE: Unvote

Nevermind bad idea.

Datisi I will make you a deal. I will vote Umlaut right now for the low low price of “told you so” post game.
What exactly was the plan with this experiment? Like what were you hoping would happen?
I was wanting to see who scumread Alch and if anyone was shading him. Then I realized it might end up giving scum a place to hide if Alch was town and there was more important dynamics in play.

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:55 am
by Titus
In post 1610, Not_Mafia wrote:Why not?
Cows don't go to jail. People and jems do.

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:57 am
by Titus
*gems

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:03 pm
by Not_Mafia
Good point

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:32 pm
by Datisi
In post 1575, MathBlade wrote:https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12817491

Can you explain the difference Datisi?

The only difference I find is with you than Umlaut here, but I am also horrible at meta reads so I am hoping you can go “Math you dumb dumb this is why” in a super nice way
ok so i skimmed the linked iso and purely from it, i cannot. umlaut is perfectly able to be low-impact / useless early as either alignment, and any difference in his d1 here and d1 in the linked game that i point out will be more my own confbias than anything. (d2+ in that game is not applicable because early d2 there he claimed a somewhat-confirmed roleblock, so obvious different play afterwards.)

if we were to talk about his response to pressure, which is kinda what is cementing him being scum here imo, that game is a bad comparison too because he was never in any danger. (i think i was the only non-rvs vote on him throughout the whole game.) i feel like i have seen town!umlaut be under pressure and actually Produce Content to try to get the wagon off of him, but for the life of me i can't find a Proper example.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12716478

this comes to mind as an example of what i'm talking about wrt scum!umlaut, lylo where we were aligning to vote umlaut, and what he did was make a post here and there to not get replaced, make a weak vote that he wasn't actually trying to push at all, and mostly just shut the fucc up.

compared to this: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

(open 794, dual iso of town!umlaut with the mod so you can follow the wagons of the game and his posting amount)

not a Perfect example since, while he was a leading then competing wagon for a good amount of d1, he was never quite that close to getting yeeted, but i think it still illustrates that town!umlaut actually Tries.

again compared to this game, it feels like here he's planking and purposefully not saying anything. like, seriousy. he voted ari because of "white knighting" (and also shaded math for it too) even though ari is literally voting for him (and he'd already acknowledged that vote earlier too). he got called out for it, did he actually give any thought to his vote? or explain why he thought ari was white-knighting him? he did not, he just went ahead to argue with you (math) and say "well but these math posts ~feel~ like white knighting" like seriously why is he still breathing.

i am tired and i have a headache so if you have any more q's please leave them below and i will get to them within the next 3-5 business days. there have been a few things i wanted to recheck, mostly give all of omega/alchemist/lukewarm a reread, because i did like what i skimmed from omega today, but that is sure as hell not happening tonight.

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:06 pm
by Aristeia
Datisi is my lover and we have access to a PT together but I don't know if he is Mafia or town.

This question keeps me up at night and I haven't been able to sleep in days.

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he promises in the PT that he is good but I've been fooled so many times that it's left me feeling jaded and vulnerable.

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:12 pm
by MathBlade
I can’t… like I just can’t.

There is so much troll I don’t know where the serious begins.

One things for certain a lot of y’all’s keyboards better be broken with all the PR role talk and you should stop.

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:37 pm
by Aristeia
MB you'd tell me if Datisi was being scummy right? I don't want to live a lie forever.


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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:40 pm
by MathBlade
If you actually had a PT with Datisi you’d be voting him.

There’s so much I would say to you but that would out who I think you are.

Just know that I have an opinion on a lot of players. I may push and pull in certain ways but it’s more about manipulating scum than town at this point.

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:45 pm
by MathBlade
Certain
players (you know who you are) keep fucking up that manipulation and it’s infuriating.

At this point I would be shocked if any of what I have tried today works at all.

I have civ tonight but I would love it if people quit doing stupid shit please.

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 6:13 pm
by Alchemist21
In post 1619, MathBlade wrote:If you actually had a PT with Datisi you’d be voting him.
The opposite would also be true; Datisi would be voting her. This was just trolling.

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:25 pm
by Aristeia
It wouldn't matter which of us is voted out for we will leave this world together.

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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:37 pm
by MathBlade
Uh huh and I am moderator aligned. I win when the mod posts 314 vote counts that have the top competitors fight guilty gear style.

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:18 pm
by Datisi
In post 1616, Aristeia wrote:Datisi is my lover and we have access to a PT together but I don't know if he is Mafia or town.
Spoiler:
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