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I can give a kinda solid reason to be voting where I am

Maybe you can, but will you?

In time.

Not only is it not a hard clear, it's not a clear at all. With the information we have now, it is utterly useless for sorting alignment without making assumptions. The tracker analogy doesn't work, because, barring Ninja or similar shenanigans, a scum slot MUST visit a target to kill them, so it's reasonable to assume that a negative result is at the very least not the scum who performed the kill. Here, all we know is that whatever role Tarou has, assuming NDMath is telling the truth, isn't dark magic flavored. Tarou could have still performed both kills, and personally dumped all the evidence on Dwlee's lawn, and would still be "cleared" by NDMath's description of his role.

In post 1590, Radical Rat wrote:I don't really like the assumption that scum has mod-assigned fakeclaims. I don't really understand why you'd think that's the case, unless you were scum and given one. But I townread you for basically everything else, so... What's the deal here?

I assumed that the role names and abilities had some sort of meaning so scum would have fake roles that align with the kingdom's naming scheme. Aka if they were to claim scum roles, the abilities or names wouldnt make sense, and if they made bullshit up, they might collide with something thr kingdom actually has

now I'm getting the idea that the setup is completely random so I guess there isnt that worry. I really dont understand how the design works

In post 1595, Almost50 wrote:

WHAT ARE YOU ALL DOING?

Do you or don't you

believe ND's claim? If you do,

why are you voting his clear?

If you don't. why are you moving off him??

This post was initially supposed to be addressing MT, but I saw a bunch of players sheeping her unto Tarou. What the fuck is your rational there?

literally already answered this

A50 who do you want us to kill? You keep shooting down my picks but you're literally only around to do that

I mean I guess Titus doesnt have much WIM but like that isnt exclusive to Titus nor something she only does in this game or as scum, and at least we know why she isnt around

you really put more stock in Titus having low activity over my case for why theres scum in nd/tarou tho

Fuck I'm sorry I've been so useless

I just don't know who is evil here and I don't know how to figure it out

I think NDMath has a decent chance flipping scum despite the claim

He seems so nonchalant about everything idk

In post 1604, Morning Tweet wrote:

In post 1590, Radical Rat wrote:I don't really like the assumption that scum has mod-assigned fakeclaims. I don't really understand why you'd think that's the case, unless you were scum and given one. But I townread you for basically everything else, so... What's the deal here?

I assumed that the role names and abilities had some sort of meaning so scum would have fake roles that align with the kingdom's naming scheme. Aka if they were to claim scum roles, the abilities or names wouldnt make sense, and if they made bullshit up, they might collide with something thr kingdom actually has

now I'm getting the idea that the setup is completely random so I guess there isnt that worry. I really dont understand how the design works

Isn't that just like. Part of playing scum though?
I have seen mod-assigned fakeclaims once or twice before, but I don't think it's very common because... It kinda removes a core part of the game. It just seems like a really weird thing to assume is the case, unless it's more common than I think it is

i was under the impression they're common in games where you not having knowledge of the flavour would put you at a disadvantage

Either way i don't think that applies to this setup anymore

i think we just treat this as mountainous because our roles r lol useless

In post 1599, Gypyx wrote:

In post 1594, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:@mod

aristophanes hasnt posted in 8+ days

he's also getting replaced yes

Can we freeze deadline?

we could always kill ari since nobody wants to replace into this mess

In post 1614, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:we could always kill ari since nobody wants to replace into this mess

I probably shouldn't be, but I'm actually okay with this. If NDMath's claim is true, and the role is actually supposed to be useful as an investigation tool, that would make Town!Ari the third miller-adjacent slot in the game, which.... I know this setup is weird, but that's A Lot of millers milling about. Plus, if Ari does flip scum, no one has any excuse to let A50 off the hook anymore.

I think I'd still rather go for Tarou, because of the weirdness around Ari there, but I'd be amenable to Ari if it saves us another week of replacement searching

Is Ari actually in his scum meta by falling off? i have heard someone say that but i dont know ari

If Ari is scum I will never stop malding

In post 1616, Morning Tweet wrote:Is Ari actually in his scum meta by falling off? i have heard someone say that but i dont know ari

That used to be his scum meta but it became NAI around the time of TM 2018

Game is too slow no one votes i dont know where half the players are

i am seriously losing interest

If I could kill off half the game i would and then play from there. if we lose then tbh i dont think it would have been winnable

MT who would you kill if you could kill half the people

We should just flash wagon one of them

Taroumaru happens to have the lowest amount of posts of any of the original playerlist that's still alive. The little amount it has posted today has been pretty bad. D1 wasn't really great either. The only reason I can think of in favor of letting it live is the NDMath result, which we've established isn't really helpful for alignment. So.... Let's just eliminate Tarou and go from there in the morning, hopefully with a more active Ari replacement that can help resolve the weirdness surrounding the slot.

MT, Ari did say in sign-ups that he was very busy IRL right now and mentioned in thread how much he's been working. My thought here is I don't think you can look at the activity and say it's scum or town.

That said, I would rather flip Taro but will go with an Ari vote to move the game forward. I do think the slot is town though.