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Troll hito, sounded good.

SpyreX, I did not meta you, so don't fake-accuse me or dismiss me as having done so. The bad feelings about your play are there regardless. The tunneling on AV when there were plenty of other players questionable in comparable ways (If you like Seacore, fine, but as far as I can recall we had multiple players acting badly around the Furc issue - MoI continuously trying to discredit Furc, Baby Spice dancing around early with FOSes and such, then going back on his vote out of too-scummy-to-be-scum in a highly weird and counterintuitive fashion, multiple others) . . . and you tunnel on AV almost exclusively at first?

Plus the sheeping. I feel most comfortable with you when you lead the sheep.

I'm far from sure you're scum, but I haven't heard anything from you which makes me feel it's not right to have doubts about your Investigatorhood.

PREVIEW EDIT: Hito's got some mad skillz. Yes. I'm usually pretty wary of associative tells before any flips have happened though. I want to think about it properly, not just skim that chunk of stuff in the preview window but good grief I think you're onto something there. BUT in that case the safer bet I'd almost want to say is on Fate, given that his switch from RC to Benmage implicates him more strongly than RC because he's the one with the not-fitting behavior there

God. Every time I want to sit here and catch up another 3 pages are added and I'm like "fuck".

So I'm posting what I have (which goes to like... page 50-something) and catching up on the new stuff later. Shit you guys post alot.

Plum wrote: If I had a supercool alliance he'd be booted from it, then be kept on strict surveillance and scrutinized closely before being considered for reentry, if at all. In other words, I am unimpressed and he worries me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHnjx_Ic ... ed#t=3m15s

Andrius wrote: God. Every time I want to sit here and catch up another 3 pages are added and I'm like "fuck".

So I'm posting what I have (which goes to like... page 50-something) and catching up on the new stuff later. Shit you guys post alot.

The game would be 1/25th of a page shorter if you didn't feel the need to keep us informed on how big the game is. You can just put this note on the top of the page of what you have.

Plum wrote:PREVIEW EDIT: Hito's got some mad skillz. Yes. I'm usually pretty wary of associative tells before any flips have happened though. I want to think about it properly, not just skim that chunk of stuff in the preview window but good grief I think you're onto something there. BUT in that case the safer bet I'd almost want to say is on Fate, given that his switch from RC to Benmage implicates him more strongly than RC because he's the one with the not-fitting behavior there

and[/]i] the self-preservation thing as far as I can see stands even if RC isn't his buddy.

Yeah, but we don't have someone ready to murder RC, now do we~

I figure it's fairly obvious that with my fate-town read gone, so to is my opposition to Ben following through. I think if we control a couple of variables we can make the murder happy great success for glory of investigators, but I'm not quite done looking in to that.

(Triglav, Seacore, MagnaofIllusion, , xvart, AurorusVox, kunkstar7, , Feysal, nopointinactingup, Furpants_Tom, , hitorogoshi, Benmage)
(Fate, Wraith, Baby Spice, manho, SpyreX, VasudeVa)
(Plum, totallynotmafia, Trilobite, Wickedestjr, )
(El Goosuki, ReaperCharlie, )
(Furcolow, )
(Lost Butterfly, )
(VP Baltar)
(Andrius)
Wraith - 0 ()
El Goosuki - 0 ()
Baby Spice - 0 ()
kunkstar7 - 0 ()

Not Voting - 1 (Bowser, , , )

*facedesk*

/wrists

Hito, you have COMPLETELY missed the point of at least two pages worth of posts.

AV wrote:Does this mean you think that Furc Stalked N0?

Its obviously his best play, as potential Murderer. I mean, I have no reason to believe he didn't do whatever it was he did, but as Murderer it was his most likely action. Can't confirm it though.

AV wrote: I generally don't like FoSing, and I (mistakenly >_>") felt MoI was scummier so he got my vote. Maintaining an RV despite having a FoS this late into the game is what made me suspicious of you. It was a scummy action and I still don't know why you've not voted for Bowser. It doesn't look like he's provided much more content since you posted, especially considering that you didn't engage with him in this latest post at all except indirectly through me :\

MoI? Scummy? Pah. Even if he were scummy he'd still get killed N1.
Because I have high suspicions of Vas as of the FoS. High enough to not slide my vote over.
Reading now...

SpyreX wrote: This is the dealio and maybe someone else can look at this rosetta stone straight faced and go "ohh yea makes total sense bro"

1.) AV thinks Ben is scummy.
2.) AV thinks Fur is town.
3.) AV thinks Fate is town.

-) AV thinks Fur (note, not Ben who claimed the Stalk) is setting up to be a murderer.
-) AV thinks Ben (note, the guy who is scummy) should kill Fate (note, the guy who is town) to prove his town powers.

I need this thought process explained to me in such a way that isn't ACTUALLY "Well, lets be sure to put some pressure on the 'confirmed' but back off when it wont and let Ben do some dirty work for us before he gets lynched for said dirty work"

It doesn't make sense neither bro. :/

Fate wrote: Andrius using caps without real anger is like a god damn speech impediment.

EXCEPT I WAS ANGRY WHEN I USED THEM. THERE'S NO NEED TO SPAM THE GODDAMN THREAD.
"Sexy" history together?

Loving El Gooski's posting style.

Fate's 594 is true. We're trying to AVOID going insane, now the other way 'round.

Plum wrote: G-D, Andrius, enough with the all-caps. You're reminding me of scum-Andrius from Thrillville on that alone, ugh. Fate only uses it sometimes, and it's cuter when he does it. Take it off, pretty please. Even if you've got lots of adrenaline on.

I'm not posting pictures though. I deliberately posted lots of pics D1 to throw off any attempts to meta me from CMAR or you.

Plum wrote: You just did. I won't neglect you now: you do not have a Townread.

I usually can get Townreads on cool friends pretty quickly,

so this is a bad sign (also a bad sign on SpyreX for the record).

But you're missing the point: I'm not cool. I'm not good enough, clearly. If I were I wouldn't have been rejected on Saturday.

As of whatever-page-i'm-on xvart is leaning scum. Cult. Scum. Whatever. He's not an investigator.

OMG Gooski is lazy as shit. "who are top wagons" "summary plz". LAzy_town, Katsuki is.

FPT wrote: Quality work, beautiful to watch some of the most contested players in the game scramble to make it into the kool kids klub. Well trolled.

QFT

SSBF wrote:Not really a fan of it. Benmage can still be cult that can attempt to convince his cult partners that they need to kill Fate tonight to confirm him as town and hope that there are multiple deaths tonight. I'm not saying he is definently cult, but I haven't like his play so far at all and even with his claim that he stalked Fate and will be killing him tonight, I am open up to the possibility of Benmage-cult trying to get rid of Fate for town creds if Fate isn't lynched today. Also you say that Benmage would not be putting himself out there as cult, I disagree. Given his history with Fate, I wouldn't be surprised if he pushed for his lynch regardless of alignment.

HE IS TOWN GODDAMMNIT. No scum would jump out into the open on D1 and announce he's on the road to Murderer.

Hi manho!

The Baby Spice hydra needs to stop tunneling Furcolow. As much as I hate his guts for what Furcolow has done in [REDACTED] he is pseudo-confirmed toen here.

VV wrote:BRO-DRIUS, WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO 'GET BACK ON' #574? OH WAIT, YOU MEAN YOUR ISO #7. WHAT DO YOU MEAN SEARCH FOR SOMETHING AWESOME? Also, no-bro, I'm Town in this game. 8D. (Percy should add a masonry mechanic, even if it's just for us two. 8D) Also, why aren't you openly claiming your noise, breadcrummyness aside?(And I'm not seeing the breadcrumbs. D: )

BRO-SUDEVA. YES, ISO #7. (There should be two random masons in this game, IMO. That'd be awesome. <3)

Andy, ISO #7 wrote: @ VAS: HEY VAS. I'll GIVE YOU A NIGHT TO

SEARCH

FOR

EN

YTHING

S

PECIAL

I C

POSSIBILITIES FOR US TO WORK TOGETHER. DONT USE ME LIKE A

TOOL

BRO.

-The Baker

Is that clear? I don't care what you did last night, but you should totally search for those. Tomorrow night, you and me will target the same people; you with forensic tools, me with occult books. We'll look for murderers and cultists. Sound good? I don't think there's a big flaw in this pan, so.

I DID CLAIM MY NOISE.

I HEARD NOISE.

I just had fun with it, is all. SO YEAH. SOMEONE DOESNT LIKE ME.
/what else is new though? Katsuki told me to commit suicide before, so...

OK BROSKIES. I DID NOT WARD. I HEARD NOISE. THAT SETTLE THINGS?

WJR wrote: Is it just me, or has Benmage disagreed and or tried to prevent every plan that would confirm that he is town? The plan to have him kill Fate he was against. He's been trying to get Fate lynched instead. Benmage also tried to persuade Fate to not use commune on him here. I don't know why he would have a problem with being confirmed as town if he actually was town. But he has a large motivation for trying to prevent it if he is scum. To be fair, I don't think Fate's plan would work, because Benmage could easily get himself an insanity tonight before Fate uses commune, but Benmage isn't even using this reason to persuade Fate. It could be a coincidence that he didn't like either plan, but I am going to keep my eye on Benmage. I currently think that having Benmage attempt to kill Fate while somebody protects him would be the best plan.

Its because he's *currently* an investigator who plans on going Murderer. I proved-ish he's not cult, so he's town going murderer.

kunk wrote: xvart in Post #627 brings up a good idea, the Commune should go to Furcolow to clear him up further.

Give me a night or two and Vas and I might be able to clear him.

Really? We're going to have a designated Grave Robber?

Plum wrote: I knew that, but I appreciate it being expressed in a way that doesn't make Papa Zito want me to Modkill you

ITT we learn Papa Zito is Plum's Dad?!?

RC wrote: GTFO VAS AND TAKE YOUR BADGER FRIENDS WITH YOU.

GTFO REAPER. ME AND VAS

had before Populatiry Mafia

HAVE A BOND OF BROTHERHOOD. I ALREADY TRIED TO ADOPT HIM.

RIGHT. BECAUSE NO SCUM WOULD FAKECLAIM A WARD OR NOISE.
Furc is multi-posting again... /wrists
And again... /arms
and again... /neck

MoI wrote: And guess which ReaperCharlie I’ve seen that’s borderline obnoxious about his ‘Town’ cred and likes to argue with me? Hint – it wasn’t the Town ReaperCharlie who was lurkeresque and made almost no contributions Days 1-3. So yeah I’ve to a gut read that doesn’t say ‘Shining Beacon of Towniness’ to me. Can I be wrong?

I'm glad someone can distinguish between RC's metas...
Agree that xvart needs more suspects. OH WAIT. HE IS SCUM. LOLOL

EXCEPT BENMAGE ISNOT CULT MORONCHARLES. REMEMBER POPULARITY MAFIA? YEAH. He may be Murderer though.

WJR wrote: Andrius, I asked for your scum games because there's reasons why I think your town here and I want to make sure these reasons don't apply to your behavior in your scum games.

Glad to know you think I'm town, but are you actually going to read those?

I love how people are nom'ing themselves to Rob Graves. Almost as bad as people self-noming themselves for Scummies.

Evidentially I didn't make the list of people who could die tonight because, despite hearing noise, I'm not going to die? WTF?

Furc wrote: I don't really like this attack on me.

POOR BABY.

Furc wrote: i'm gonna try my own method. 1) Stalk 2) Murder 3) Win as Murderer

Fixed.

VV wrote: TC Andy, and thanks for the Wine(infrontofme.)

Also, when you get back please check out and answer my questions to you in my ISO somewhere.

What WIFOM? Unless you were trying to pun on the fact I was drinking... :/

Already did Bro-sudeva.

I don't see the need to organize grave robbing. At least one person will do it, and since there's no way to check to see if ABC did or didn't do it we can't really control who does or not unless we Ward them. So Cult will get their spirit dust and murderers will hunt each other and we'll get gear from dead peeps and flips. Since every faction (IIRC) has something to gain from robbing graves then multiple people will do so. We can't really stop them. We CAN, However, attempt to catch them in a lie when they lie about not having robbed a grave.

Loving the Barbossa pic from... someone. He was always my favorite.

Seacore's 907 is him defending his attack on two townies. WTF. Furcolow is town*. Benmage is town*. What they will be in a few days is for VV and I to discover.
*: Town at the moment. Potential to become Murderer.

Fate, in [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=2594560#p2594560]this post[/url] wrote: Reaper is being a god damn Reaper as usual. He says "oh no im gonna die lets make D1 worth it" then proceeds to act like the champion of town with no fear of dying/producing real content the whole day.

You're surprised why? He always does that. >_>

@ Post 962 Andy is sad. While Andy is always happy to play with nopoint (hi ex-scum buddy! ) he is sad SSBF is leaving.
MOVING ALONG.

VAS IF I DIE TONIGHT AND I FIND OUT YOU KILLED ME FROM PERCY I WILL COME AFTER YOU WITH A VENGEANCE SO HARD THAT I WILL SWEAR AN OATH MORE POWERFUL THAN THE OATH FEANOR AND HIS SONS SWORE WHEN THE SILMARILS WERE STOLEN. I WILL VIG/INVESTIGATE/VOTE YOU ON-SITE BECAUSE YOU HAVE BETRAYED YOUR BROTHER. *ahem*
That is all.

YEAH. BABY SPICE FURCOLOW IS TOWN_VI. MOVE ON WITH THE GAME AND GET VOTING SOME CULTSTIS.

Furc wrote:Group 1 (the hatas): MoI, kunk, xvart, SSBF

You forgot me dumbass.

How is RC being lazy a TOWN TELL? Katsuki, maybe its not that you play badly as scum; maybe its just that YOURE HORRID AS TOWN AND MAFIA.
@ 1052-Goosuki: You're saying that Reaper doesn't read. When it comes to self-preservation he's there in a flash. See how he's attempting to derail the lynch away from him onto xvart? We learn that xvart and RC cannot be scumbuddies. One is. The other isn't. Simple as that.

I'm liking WJR alot more as he posts. While he needs to catchup as well, I get a solid town read from him.

VV is town in the sense that he's not cult. Assuming he approves the plan I'll prevent him from going Murderer. Unless I'm killed. Then you know he offed me. AGAIN.

Moi wrote:Change of playstyles based solely on pressure? Scumtastic. I’d give a perfect example but it is [REDACTED].

I can't agree more, MOI.

MOI wrote: Scum RC loves to establish himself as the center of attention if perceived as clear or Town.

ENOUGH SAID. "OH LOOK IM DUMBLEDORE AND IM SOOOOOOOOOO TOWN AND EVERYONE SHOULD LOVE ME!!! <333" YEAH. RIGHT.
And while wanting to form an alliance he still can't find a stable group of people to form one out of. Sheesh.

I agree with the point made against Lost butterfly. While it is hard to coordinate hydras at times (with lurking buddies) you really need to coordinate your reads together, or you risk hanging due to self-contradicting. Vas and I know this all too well... /Troll Mafia

Benmage is definitely Town*. Fate is leaning town. I also relinquish my rights to talk about their night actions (not because I did to begin with).
*: Town right now. Possible Murderer.

YO GUYS. FOR THE LAST FUCKING TIME. BENMAGE IS TOWN*. SHIT DUDES.
*: ATM

So it seems we *are* designating grave robbers? I'm confused. And I don't really care. Someone needs to though, preferble two people, so that Cult can't get their mafic floo powder and we can make sure we get a flip each night.

I WILL NOT let him sit around as scum and manipulate me or cause me to second-guess whatever I do. He is scum and he needs to hang.

Agree with Vas #1217. Unless you have a detrimental insanity, which shouldn't be taken anyway, especially THIS early.

#1231 is RC attempting to derail wagon onto xvart. WHERE HAVE WE SEEN THIS BEFORE?
HRMMM.
Meh. While you're probably not scum together, one of you IS scum.

SITE TALKING TO ME wrote: Your message contains too many smilies. The maximum number of smilies allowed is 12.

FUCK YOU. I WANT MY SMILIES.

More to come later; aka Tuesday, after my law test.
If anyone wants to lynch Fate today, you're dumb. Just get Benmage to kill him and we can lynch other cultists today. Namely RC.

DEADLINE IS IN 3 DAYS?!? WHAT?!?
FINe. I WILL CATCH UP ON TUESDAY.
KTHXBYE

<3,

Geoffrey


P.S.
BENMAGE IS TOWN.

p.p.s. Shit. VV, if we go with my plan I'll be picknig up one insanity a night, from my actions, plus anything else that happens to me... hrm. Maybe this isn't the best plan...

Wickedestjr wrote:...actually. Forget what I said about Benmage robbing the grave. I now feel that Furcolow should do it. He is practically confirmed town and he has offered to do it. I see no reason for him not to rob graves.

i like this post
and this one

Wickedestjr wrote:

Vote: Seacore

Between him, ReaperCharlie, and xvart, I want to lynch Seacore the most. After thinking about the case some more and reading his defenses, ReaperCharlie is a very bad lynch. Seacore should die instead.

my town read on you had been faltering
it has now been strengthened and bolstered

Benmage wrote:

Wickedestjr wrote:...actually. Forget what I said about Benmage robbing the grave. I now feel that Furcolow should do it. He is practically confirmed town and he has offered to do it. I see no reason for him not to rob graves.

Furc is more confirmed than me?

I am.
You want to do something helpful?
Agree to stalk El Goosuki tonight, and it will fucking fail

Benmage wrote:Am I rob graving who we lynch tonight?

I am.

Holy cow.
Fate has 5 followers which is pretty incredible. Most of them are weak/naive players though.
But SpyreX is on Benmage?

Benmage wrote:1a. I see the occult books as a poor choice for a N0 action, but an easy scum fakeclaim. I think his whole attempt to try and please me by testing my insanity and allowing him to survive was a scum ploy told to him by his partners. Thats why I don't believe he has the occult books and believe he is scum.

I actually somewhat agree with this, as you could see in my iso

hitogoroshi wrote:

Plum wrote:PREVIEW EDIT: Hito's got some mad skillz. Yes. I'm usually pretty wary of associative tells before any flips have happened though. I want to think about it properly, not just skim that chunk of stuff in the preview window but good grief I think you're onto something there. BUT in that case the safer bet I'd almost want to say is on Fate, given that his switch from RC to Benmage implicates him more strongly than RC because he's the one with the not-fitting behavior there

and[/]i] the self-preservation thing as far as I can see stands even if RC isn't his buddy.

Yeah, but we don't have someone ready to murder RC, now do we~

Ohhhhhhhh yes.

I will be giving this a proper look through - my reservations on RC weren't as great as yours but your post above yeah. Please hold for a bit.

PREVIEW EDIT:

Andrius wrote:But you're missing the point: I'm not cool. I'm not good enough, clearly. If I were I wouldn't have been rejected on Saturday.

You don't need to excuse yourself with self pity. You're a cool friend in my book, okay? Please be able to take yes for an answer <3.

I'm staying on Reaper.

Somebody please Rez Fate tonight, he's obv town.
If somebody without a rez kit wants to stalk Benmage, I for one will not harass them about being an attempted murderer.

I do not have a rez kit. I'm only saying this because I've realised I've posted "I'm sure Fate will get Rez'd" about 5 times, and I don't want people to read that as a bread crumb.

OH MY GOD. POINT=MISSED. PERHAPS IT NEEDS TO BE PUT EVEN MORE SIMPLY:

TOWNIES WILL DIE TONIGHT. IF WE DO NOT LYNCH BENMAGE, WE WILL LOSE TOWNIES, MINIMUM. IF WE LYNCH, BENMAGE WE WILL LOSE TOWNIE, MINIMUM.













OH MY GOD FURCOLOW STOP SPAMMING POSTS. SAY WHAT YOU NEED TO SAY IN ONE. GODDAMN. POST.

Seacore, for the love of God, listen to reason. You're like xvart: IF YOU THINK FATE IS TOWN, DON'T LET BENMAGE MURDER HIM.

Wait? Seacore... You're not warding me tonight

Percy wrote: Benmage - 6 (Fate, Wraith, Baby Spice, manho, SpyreX, VasudeVa)

Get off Benmage. He is town*.
Find someone better to vote. Namely RC. Fate's for later/Benmage.

Plum wrote:Please be able to take yes for an answer <3.

I don't get this part.

And when I say Fate is for Benmage, so we can res him and get confirmed Benmage town. And if we rez him we'll postpone Benmage going murderer (IIRC) so we'll keep confirmed-town Benmage alive longer.

Please be able to take 'yes I think you're cool' when I imply that for an answer instead of talking about being rejected, Andrius.

No Benmage, I'm hoping somebody stalks and kills you.


And Wraith, I have faith that somebody will rez Fate. I also believe cult could potentially kill Fate on top of that, so it's not One is less than Two.

Wraith wrote:Hito, you have COMPLETELY missed the point of at least two pages worth of posts.

From what I can tell, you're arguing the point that we should lynch Benmage for what amounts to an anti-town ethics violation. That's silly.

The Benmage cult case is similarly silly.

If you have some point you wish to bring up against me, then bring it up. Don't just say "OH LAWL HITO DON'T GET IT" and then submit the post. I've said it before: I am utterly sick of this town's passive-aggressive sniping. If there are weaknesses in my case, address them instead of simply whining and alluding to their existence.

I do not think Fate is town. I want to hear why Fate-town disarmed the awesome RC wagon for this terrible Benmage one. Don't say "town fate wanted to not be murdered by town-Benmage" because I made sure to discount that possibility before proceeding.

Andrius wrote:And if we rez him we'll postpone Benmage going murderer (IIRC) so we'll keep confirmed-town Benmage alive longer.

Incorrect. Attempts is what counts, not successes, in regards to gaining Psychopathy

Andrius wrote:And when I say Fate is for Benmage, so we can res him and get confirmed Benmage town. And if we rez him we'll postpone Benmage going murderer (IIRC) so we'll keep confirmed-town Benmage alive longer.

Have you read a word I've said? At all?

No.

@hito: I've played enough game's that I'd consider myself experienced. Benmage would have been lynched by PAGE TWELVE if the town were half-sane.

Fate wrote:You have my campaign promise VV.

At the request of two sane townies, I will now be leaving this thread for hours to mindlessly kill Zerg and nuke the hell out of some pylons.

Carry on well my brethren.

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