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In post 1619, Wisdom wrote:AP I don't know how the fuck you see the slightest town motivation in qwints, please sit down and reread.

How about him being open about everything and his attitude basically being that he has nothing to hide?

You are scumreading him over him noting that Venmar challenged scum NS after pretending that Venmar did not do that.

AP, I suggest you relax for now and come back and reread later. You're being stupid right now.

NO YOU KNOW WHAT STUPID? YOU ASSERTING THAT QWINTS HAS READ ALL 65 PAGES AND CALLING HIM SCUMMY FOR NOT HAVING MORE CONTENT AS A RESULT.

I HAVENT READ ALL 65 PAGES BECAUSE THIS GAME IS A CF.

Wisdom, will you at least agree that scum has an incentive not to challenge another team that has scum on it? That's why it's a small point in Venmar's favor.

But relaxing and going away sounds like a good plan tbf.

In post 1628, qwints wrote:Wisdom, will you at least agree that scum has an incentive not to challenge another team that has scum on it? That's why it's a small point in Venmar's favor.

No. AP was a popular scumread at the time and Venmar-scum could know that even if he didn't get me lynched, AP would still get lynched.
I don't think that's likely due to his reaction test ofc, but that's another story.
The point is that Venmar does not gain any town points for that challenge, since he never contributed in a NS lynch.

In post 1622, Wisdom wrote: Bullshit. His sole motivation was to lynch me. He never wanted to lynch NS.

That's certainly what he tried to do. [I don't remember if he ended up on the NS wagon or not, but he certainly came after you to start]. But a lynch pool with TWO scum is less good for scum than a lynch pool with ONE scum. Venmar-scum could easily have created a lynch-pool with ONE scum by challenging a two-townie team or a team with only one person on it.

In post 1627, AngryPidgeon wrote:YOU ASSERTING THAT QWINTS HAS READ ALL 65 PAGES AND CALLING HIM SCUMMY FOR NOT HAVING MORE CONTENT AS A RESULT.

That's not why I'm calling him scummy. That's why I'm telling you that you need to reread when you have relaxed.

In post 1631, qwints wrote:Venmar-scum could easily have created a lynch-pool with ONE scum by challenging a two-townie team or a team with only one person on it.

Except that would make absolutely no sense given everything he had said and done until that point. The whole game he was tunneling on me and calling me scum. It would be hypocrisy if he challenged anyone else.

In post 1533, AngryPidgeon wrote:

In post 1527, Haschel Cedricson wrote:Not Voting (4) - , enomis

I'd like to see this change.

Elyse, if you had to choose between Enomis and Amrun, which would you choose? Hypothetical question and all.

Enomis

In post 1630, Wisdom wrote: The point is that Venmar does not gain any town points for that challenge, since he never contributed in a NS lynch.

That's not the point. ONE SCUM IN A LYNCH POOL IS MORE DESIRABLE THAN TWO SCUM IN A LYNCH POOL IF SCUM ARE PICKING. Since venmar picked a lynch pool with another person who was scum, he'd have had to take a suboptimal situation if he were scum. Could he have done that? OF COURSE. SCUM MAKE SUBOPTIMAL PLAYS ALL THE TIME FOR LOTS OF SCUM MOTIVATED REASONS. But, it's still a small point in his favor. If he'd gone hardcore after NS from the beginning, he'd be a town read for me, not a conflicted one.

In post 1633, Wisdom wrote: Except that would make absolutely no sense given everything he had said and done until that point. The whole game he was tunneling on me and calling me scum. It would be hypocrisy if he challenged anyone else.

But he also didn't have to challenge in the first place.

He had shown eagerness to challenge me in the beginning of the game, and he had stated he will challenge me in the end of D1. He did not exactly have much choice.

Anyway I don't know why I'm arguing this with you. Venmar is probably town. Your reasons are just terribad.
We're done here.

Venmar said he would challenge in 749 and challenged in 760. He didn't have to commit himself to a challenge.

In post 146, Venmar wrote: How do we challenge people and how does it work? I'm willing to start challenging people.

In post 313, Venmar wrote:

In post 286, Grimgroove wrote:Who would you have challenged and why?

AP or Wisdom, because I think they're scum.

Challenging anyone other than me after that would be hypocrisy. So saying that he would challenge someone else as scum is bullshit.
I don't think he's scum, but he does NOT gain any town points from the challenge, period.

In post 1572, Wisdom wrote:And if you add the fact she's already buddying Majiffy into the blend.. it becomes apparent that she cannot afford getting another strong townread like that.
I think that's why she refuses to strongly townread me like she would normally do, as well as why she's starting to "freak out" about Majiffy.

okay I stopped right here cos this is bullshit you fucking know me wis,

#1546 - I don't make long bigwinded fucking cases it is not my style never has been in the 4 years that I have I have been playing. scum on this site usually think I am easy pickings for it so tend to go for me. <---- hence why the mollie meme is only retards and scum try to lynch me cos when I am scum it is really fucking obvious to people who know my meta. I use different scumhunting tools than what other people use on this site like someday I hope to find a collection of players who understand timing and roll town and knock the ball out of the park. my reasons are not weak or opaque; you simply don't/aren't trying to understand them. that isn't what makes you seem scummy it is that the questions you ask are not alignment discerning and you only seem to want to push me when you think you have support on it.

#1558 -

I also played with him in state farm briefly where he was town and people were all gung ho for his lurking and inadequate play.

that is why he is lynchbait

there is a good amount of misrep in this post wis. majiffy is NOT talking to me as much as I would like about this game. and I can't even you are throwing this shit at me after the gonzo game where I once again voted incorrectly in lylo.

I still think majiffy is town. it freaks me out when he vote parks and then disappears cos this is what he did in the only game where he managed to sneak past me as scum. there are 6 players on this site I expect a lot from in order to townread them and he is one of them cos I have shared enough meta knowledge with them that they could get past my meta reads. majiffy is at the top of the list.

still catching up but I do not like #1562 wis

In post 1572, Wisdom wrote:And if you add the fact she's already buddying Majiffy into the blend.. it becomes apparent that she cannot afford getting another strong townread like that.
I think that's why she refuses to strongly townread me like she would normally do, as well as why she's starting to "freak out" about Majiffy.

I HAVE GIVEN STRONG TOWN READS

In post 1574, AngryPidgeon wrote:

In post 1572, Wisdom wrote:as well as why she's starting to "freak out" about Majiffy.

She explicitly told me to buzz off when she thought I was casting suspicion on him :/

I FUCKING DID "freak out" about majiffy stop misrepping me

ap you and amrun are stoking fires

No you haven't. You never explained in detail what makes Venmar town, your AP townread is too vague (even AP said he doesn't know what you're reading him as), and your Majiffy townread was strong for bullshit reasons at first, yet you're starting to "freak out" now. As for your read on me.. as I said you should have townread me ages ago but you don't, and it's weird.

And who else did you townread again? Grim? Please explain your townread on Grim.

In post 1575, Amrun wrote:Every five seconds she goes "oh, I had a freak out moment about him but then it was okay," though.

put up or stfu

and that was not a freak out moment. when I freak out you will know it

In post 662, pirate mollie wrote:

In post 659, Wisdom wrote:The more you tell me to unvote the one who you initiated this challenge for the more my vote won't go anywhere. It's just hypocritical.

And mollie gets false townreads all the time, it can happen.

there are 3 players on here that I can pretty much guarantee that I can read. majiffy is 1 of them.

there were extenuating circumstances in the gonzo game for me voting the way that I did. it resulted in me probably never playing with buldey again and it makes me sad cos I feel like I lost a friend.

In post 1642, pirate mollie wrote:I still think majiffy is town. it freaks me out when he vote parks and then disappears cos this is what he did in the only game where he managed to sneak past me as scum. there are 6 players on this site I expect a lot from in order to townread them and he is one of them cos I have shared enough meta knowledge with them that they could get past my meta reads. majiffy is at the top of the list.

Explain this discrepancy, please.

In post 1647, pirate mollie wrote:

In post 1575, Amrun wrote:Every five seconds she goes "oh, I had a freak out moment about him but then it was okay," though.

put up or stfu

and that was not a freak out moment. when I freak out you will know it

I already QUOTED what I meant. But thanks try again later.