that's it? your abilities are that you're blue and that you're bulletproof
no reference to the doublevote in your role at all?
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 2:45 am
by Nero Cain
nope
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 3:17 am
by Plum
UNVOTE:
This is not claim-prompted.
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 3:18 am
by Venmar
From my POV it seems silly you wouldn't actually be told.
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 3:23 am
by Ner+Far
Me too which is why I was very wary YOU being told we were trips voters and it was not you with a double vote as trolling scum.
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 3:24 am
by Venmar
The fact you could generate the second vote yourself, without me voting after you as a prompt, should be enough proof you have as much control over it as I.
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 3:26 am
by Lost Butterfly
Nero Cain
,
Not voting - (3):
Flipping Awesome, Nobody Special, Plum
With
15
alive it takes
8
to lynch.
Deadline for Day 1:
11th of May at 8:10pm
Irish Time - countdown: (expired on 2014-05-11 15:10:00)
No one is V/la.[/area]
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 3:27 am
by Nero Cain
yea, that's why I was vote hoping earlier to test it out and check it. Even with that mechanic you could still be scum though.
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 4:19 am
by Untrod Tripod
to be perfectly frank I'd much rather be lynching Venmar right now
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 4:34 am
by Plessiez
My initial impression is that Venmar's tone in the Red Wedding was a lot less aggressive/sarcastic than it's been in this game. Not really sure how much to read into that though. Still think kanye is a better vote than either Venmar or Nero though.
In post 1626, Untrod Tripod wrote:that's it? your abilities are that you're blue and that you're bulletproof
no reference to the doublevote in your role at all?
Nero was hardly going to claim he was told about the double vote in his role PM, was he? I mean, given the way he hammered Katsuki yesterday while claiming not to understand his connection to the "sheep" vote.
In post 1629, Venmar wrote:From my POV it seems silly you wouldn't actually be told.
There definitely does seem to be some sort of odd asymmetry there.
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 5:28 am
by Nobody Special
In post 1634, Untrod Tripod wrote:to be perfectly frank I'd much rather be lynching Venmar right now
Me, too. Or, you know, Plum.
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 5:29 am
by Nobody Special
EBWOP:
-Nobody Special
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 7:11 am
by Shadoweh
In post 1629, Venmar wrote:From my POV it seems silly you wouldn't actually be told.
Why? The flowchart is 100% a Majiffy thing, a Thor alone probably wouldn't have a power like that. Also if you thought he should know you wouldn't have shown it to him in the first place?
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 10:15 am
by chamber
I find Neros claim completely believable. It does nothing to change my mind however.
Upon his further contribution, i'm not convinced this is Nero's scumplay. Being active but very dumb and outrageous among other things is literally his town meta from my experience.
I also think Nacho is town.
This seems at odds with your stances about Nero this game. hmm.
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 10:57 am
by Plum
Nero - I voted for you, yeah, for the Shadoweh 'irony' thing, for the vote thing/fact of the probable recurring controversy over that. And the fact that your wagon seemed very clean and Town to me (certainly the wagoners did). Buuuuut, eh, your responses and so forth (I skimmed your ISO, too, at least in reference to Shadoweh) - they're the sort of thing that I'm willing to swallow my paranoia and say 'if I were skimming this game as an uninterested party, I would not look here and say, yeah, Nero for scum'. I mean, I can lay things out for you. The appeal to 'as Town I think I shouldn't lie, so that's why I said X, why I did X, &c.' is something that I'm tempted to do, both as a show of transparency and because it's the actual explanation for something I said or did,
both
as Town and scum. But I wouldn't bring up that appeal as scum, because it's so transparently and act of transparency. This is hard to explain. Whatever.
I was going to say, hey, I'd lynch kanye over Nero at this point, but it looks like he's not much more viable (looking?) than, say
UNVOTE: VOTE: UT
Worst case scenario, we'll have time for an alternative, so.
PSA, NS remains a stellar option as well.
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 11:02 am
by Zdenek
Timmy, how did you choose your targets?
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 11:06 am
by Zdenek
In post 1641, Plum wrote:I'd lynch kanye over Nero at this point,
Good vote him.
It will be glorious.
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 11:10 am
by Zdenek
I really question Nero not and the voting ability and not knowing about the voting ability, but I also don't understand why people think he's scum, and his scum read on LLD is good, and we're going to need all the help we can get to lynch her tomorrow.
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 11:11 am
by Zdenek
The only reason that I see to scum read Nero is the "deep-hammer," which is okay, but still Kanye is worse, so let's do that.
I finally started feeling better and catching up in this game last night. I haven't had a chance to talk to Empire about much as we've not been around the same time. He still has Venmar as scum and wants him lynched, but said that if no one wants to move to Venmar he's fine with us moving our vote to Kanye.
I want to finish catching up before I do any of that though. I should be done with that tonight.
Venmar though can you explain what that scum tell is you got from Empire. Like neither of us have a clue what you're talking about, and he's like yeah who cares he's scum so whatever, but I'm confused. Is this phantom empire scum tell (TM) that someone says they're not going to read the game...but then does?
If that's the case, why didn't it also bother you that Reck did pretty much the same thing when he entered the game?