Mini 1643: World of Mafiacraft (End)

[kiwieagle]

Fuck I want to post a niceee post


But for now:
House is 3rd party sk fucking obvious
This is like that titus crap

[kiwieagle]

Also abr jailkeeper claim was a good move
forget that ozigim buddiea bullshit

Ozigin still might be scum scared of abr though

[Albert B. Rampage]

Yeah, I agree.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Depends what he says about Titus, mostly.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Ok Killer needs to clear up Houses role bc we are getting all kind of spe ulation and such. I would think that KJ would specify if House was a Sk. I think he is just a non armed third party player or scum. Not sure how he is a SK.. I think he was fake claiming

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Fake claiming his ability...to clearify

[Nero Cain]

SCUM IS A CATCH ALL! HOUSE WAS SCUM!

Honestly, this seems a bit derp. Would TFL, as scum, really argue that House wasn't scum? Sorry but it doesn't feel like the fake type of derp like scum like to do.

[Nero Cain]

TT, why do yo classify my vote on you as "random"?

vote:TT

[TroubledTownie]

TT, why do yo classify my vote on you as "random"?

vote:TT

I wasn't classifying your vote on me, I was classifying your voting. Period.

How you could possibly not understand is beyond me...

the next person to post that doesn't vote TT gets my vote

House flipping 3rd party isn't exactly a mislynch bro.

vote:TFL

[Nero Cain]

Now 615

MIGHT

be the fake derp we are looking for. But TT is our scum lynch for the day.

[Nero Cain]

I wasn't classifying your vote on me, I was classifying your voting

"My voting is random but not the vote on me?" The fuck is this junk?

[TroubledTownie]

I wasn't classifying your vote on me, I was classifying your voting

"My voting is random but not the vote on me?" The fuck is this junk?

Your voting in general is a broader term than a single vote on me. I was clarifying that I was referring to the broad subject, not the individual vote as you suggested.

[Nero Cain]

fair enough.

What do you think of my vote on you?

[TroubledTownie]

Not even worth responding to.

I don't recall you ever doing anything more than saying I was 'deff' scum along with House, and probably ABR as well. Did you have an actual reason to vote me, or is it just a continuation of your previous unsubstantiated thinking?

[Nero Cain]

I do have reasons! Thank you for asking. Just give me a second to compile all the quotes and links and a nice cold drink so I can relax while I watch you squirm like the undead you are.

[Nero Cain]

I felt TT was all up in House's ass yesterday.

In this conversatiion (1274-1279) TT follows House using the same bullshit that House was not town reading Math for not voting him.

Math knows my meta and playstyle. If she had been campaigning for my mislynch, it'd have cemented my read of her as scum.

This is the equivalent of "I'm townreading Math b/c if she were scum she'd vote me. She is not voting me; ergo town." The ONLY reason that he was arguing against it it 'cause he got caught in bullshit reasoning and didn't want to sound like a crazy maniac and thus we get 1147-1152.

But back to TT.

TT also remarks that house self voting is a town tell when at most, this it was null.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=60313
^^
In that game they were scum together and he did the same "self vote" for ATE bullshit that he did here. Basicly my accusation is that TT knew House wasn't scum (atleast not scum on his team) and thus was defending him out the wazoo.

No, I'm ignoring

your

'meta' of House.

Townhouse voting townhouse cause people ignore his meta. He's most likely town, so put your vote to use somewhere else.

Pedit Mathblade, he's done exactly this before. Townhouse will go from "I will fight to the very last post to prevent my mislynch" to "Screw it, *self-vote*" very quickly.

I've seen him do exactly that as scumHouse, too. And so have you.

What game?

It also makes that post super sketch 'cause why the fuck would town him pretend to have not seen House self vote?

RETORT!

[TheFuzzylogic99]

3rd party is not scum... this is logic that is going to get the town killed. Argueing 3rd party= scum is stupid. I can see how one can argue 3rd party can be dangerous. I disagree with such a notion but atleast such an argument is based in some rational thinking. Argueing 3rd party is scum has no ratinal bases.
Please stop this nonesense.

if House flip scum than we can discuss me being scum via House or anyone else being scum via House. Than there is a good and rational reason to do so.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Am I reading you right , that there are two scum teams. Can you give evidence that whats going on. If this is what you are saying than it seems you are playing a dangerous game of out guess the mod

Kj can your clarify if House was scum or third party thanks

sorry ABR but you lied about your claim so I am not trusting your info on the matter

[TroubledTownie]

I felt TT was all up in House's ass yesterday.

In this conversatiion (1274-1279) TT follows House using the same bullshit that House was not town reading Math for not voting him.

Yeah, I was getting tired of you going on and on about House not answering you when he did.

TT also remarks that house self voting is a town tell when at most, this it was null.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=60313
^^
In that game they were scum together and he did the same "self vote" for ATE bullshit that he did here. Basicly my accusation is that TT knew House wasn't scum (atleast not scum on his team) and thus was defending him out the wazoo.

Those aren't comparable situations. House was dead in that newbie game. Nobody else was getting lynched that day. That was House trying to manipulate the day to end more quickly(not AtE as you claim). In this game, House being lynched wasn't a guarantee.

No, I'm ignoring

your

'meta' of House.

Townhouse voting townhouse cause people ignore his meta. He's most likely town, so put your vote to use somewhere else.

Pedit Mathblade, he's done exactly this before. Townhouse will go from "I will fight to the very last post to prevent my mislynch" to "Screw it, *self-vote*" very quickly.

I've seen him do exactly that as scumHouse, too. And so have you.

What game?

It also makes that post super sketch 'cause why the fuck would town him pretend to have not seen House self vote?

RETORT!

See above. I haven't seen House self-vote as scum in that frustrated manner, where his lynch wasn't guaranteed.

So your case boils down to me defending House, lol. You think as scum, I would lie about House's behavior and our own history, to keep him from getting lynched?

Great case Sherlock.

[MathBlade]

I really want to suspect you, because you've been harassing me the entire game, but I don't see you as scum. Stop voting for me and direct your attention at Titus.

Yeah I guess I'm some kind of special space cadet because I still suspect you but honestly that first bit of aggression I felt was missing in your posts. :/ I kinda missed it.

Unvote

ABR -- as a heads up I generally want to lynch all liars unless there is some huge proof hence my scum read on you. I still don't get it tbh.

If you thought he was gambitting why not just vote him and be done with it? Why the fake claim? That I don't get.

@Kiwieagle -- What was ABR fake claiming good?

@ABR -- That being said the fact Titus and TT opened out of the gate voting me is pretty suspicious so I'm holding my vote until I can reread the thread Sunday or unless something major happens.

I agree that somewhere in this group there's probably scum but I need to reread the thread.

[MathBlade]

VOTE: Unvote

For clarity reasons.

[Nero Cain]

I agree that somewhere in this group there's probably scum but I need to reread the thread.

what group?

[Albert B. Rampage]

If you thought he was gambitting why not just vote him and be done with it? Why the fake claim? That I don't get.

People looked like they were going to buy his claim and let him live. Imagine if our PR had gotten into his hands...

[Nero Cain]

Great case Sherlock.

THANKS!!!

You think as scum, I would lie about House's behavior and our own history, to keep him from getting lynched?

If you had inside information that House wasn't scum (atleast not with you) I don't see why you wouldn't.

Those aren't comparable situations. House was dead in that newbie game. Nobody else was getting lynched that day. That was House trying to manipulate the day to end more quickly(not AtE as you claim).

reading in context I can see that. Though I still find it a little iffy that you'd think that scumHouse would be above self voting to try and ATE his way out of a lynch. Which brings up the next portion of our discussion.

Can you explain how you got a meta town read on House. What games id you read?

[AngryPidgeon]

Or you are trying to paint House as scum in order to mislynch me.....

Lets see. House has flipped a different color than my role PM. Yes I am trying to paint him as scum. to mislynch you. I would have gotten away with it to if it weren't for you meddling kids.

That is if house is scum and not a third party

I don't care what scum faction House was on. Do you really think ABr, as mafia, fakeclaims something when there is the possibility of him being wrong and paying the piper after Hpuse flips town? I can see determined town doing that. I have a pretty hard time seeing scum go wayyyyy out on a tiny branch like that to risk it. I mean really TFL. I dont see how you think ABR IS SCUMSCUMSUM here. It doesnt make sense. He put himself out on a limb and got scum lynched and you want to lynch him for that. Uhhhhh.

He's third party. I checked with the mod during the night.

LMAO you morons want to lynch this? Are you kidding me right now? We arent lynching ABR today jesus. Or ever probably. Get over yourselves.

Appeal to ridicule.

Can you tell me why Nero wants to lynch you? Serious question.

Ozigin still might be scum scared of abr though

I 100% agree wityh Ozgin. I think I forgot to mention it, but IU have a gut scumread on him from his posts Today.

Ok Killer needs to clear up Houses role bc we are getting all kind of spe ulation and such. I would think that KJ would specify if House was a Sk. I think he is just a non armed third party player or scum. Not sure how he is a SK.. I think he was fake claiming

Do you intend to even put a singular token effort into fake scumhunting today or should we just correctly lynch you already?

SCUM IS A CATCH ALL! HOUSE WAS SCUM!

TT also remarks that house self voting is a town tell when at most, this it was null.

I actually find this fairly compelling. I can see scum saying that if they have reason to think House is town. Ok Nero, TT and TFL, we can do it.

I'll be skimming D1 aggressively over the next couple of days. Its clear to me that I need to see ABR's claim in context as well as some other things.

titus, you town this game?

/drunk post.