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Dwlee staph it. You're wrong here. Stop pestering massive.

↑ Titus wrote:Dwlee staph it. You're wrong here. Stop pestering massive.

catching this for titus


ok so my dad is on the computer but when he is off we can talk

nvm about being able to get on..

↑ ɀefiend wrote:Can one of you pinpoint the pattern of votes and explain how that makes you believe GL/SC team is not possible?

This still needs to be explained.

↑ Night Hunters wrote:So some things we've been thinking..
Ari gets lynched a hell of a lot faster if GL is scum
cakez being scum

This also needs to be explained.

Titus does the vca, not me. Also tho I want my question answered

Is massive replaying the game from day 1 or something?

↑ GuiltyLion wrote:

↑ Night Hunters wrote:Also: Why does town reading someone for reevaluating a read (something scum don't have much motivation to do at this point in the game with titus and I's slot) = survivalism?

When zefiend was scumreading you, you scumread him and talk about voting him. Then when he townreads you, suddenly you townread him in return. It reads to me like you're dropping the need to crossvote as soon as it no longer looks like he may vote you, like your original scumread was out of necessity rather than a genuine belief in him being scum.

This is interesting, but what worries me is that you insinuate that a cross vote would have happened between me and NH. That sure as hell would not and will not ever happen, because you have called me town already and SirCakez currently has his sights on a NH/massive team. It is painfully obvious to anyone reading this game that scum!me does not back off NH if at least one townie is strongly supporting voting him.

↑ Night Hunters wrote:Titus does the vca, not me. Also tho I want my question answered

Titus is ignoring all my posts apparently.

And I'm getting to it, dammit.

basically for NH to be town either
-GL is ascetic scum
-Fire lied about his night actions

I find them being scum far more likely then either of the two listed above

I cant speak for titus *shrug*
But cakes do you have any reason to think we are scum other than weird night interactions?

↑ massive wrote:

↑ GuiltyLion wrote:

↑ massive wrote:The town players aren't really helping

Who are you referring to here?

There are 4 days left and I'm getting the sense that you're stalling it out. Do you still think SC is scum? Do you think NH is town?

Mostly everyone. It seems like a lot of our now-proven townies were focused on other now-proven townies, or acting scummy enough that EVERYONE left alive was equally scumreading them.

I do still think SC is scum.

I don't think NH+SC make sense as a team.

Who are the "now-proven townies"? Also, you are being very non-committal about NH. If he can't be on a SC-scum team, then do you think the last scum is me or GL?

I will make an in-depth PoE post when I get to a computer.

↑ ɀefiend wrote:

↑ GuiltyLion wrote:

↑ Night Hunters wrote:Also: Why does town reading someone for reevaluating a read (something scum don't have much motivation to do at this point in the game with titus and I's slot) = survivalism?

When zefiend was scumreading you, you scumread him and talk about voting him. Then when he townreads you, suddenly you townread him in return. It reads to me like you're dropping the need to crossvote as soon as it no longer looks like he may vote you, like your original scumread was out of necessity rather than a genuine belief in him being scum.

This is interesting, but what worries me is that you insinuate that a cross vote would have happened between me and NH. That sure as hell would not and will not ever happen, because you have called me town already and SirCakez currently has his sights on a NH/massive team. It is painfully obvious to anyone reading this game that scum!me does not back off NH if at least one townie is strongly supporting voting him.

So you wouldn't have voted NH if they voted you? Dwlee was threatening to do it early in the day, that's why I thought it could have happened.

What's your definition of cross vote? I was using it in the sense of what normally happens in LYLO when two players vote each other, the cross vote coming immediately after the first vote, because if it's a TvT vote then the game is already lost at that point.

The deathtunnel Titus had on me for much of day 1 and now for today as well doesn't feel like her towngame. I think she'd be more open and not using terrible reasoning like "faked his reads" as town.

↑ massive wrote:

↑ GuiltyLion wrote:Thor - why would scum!Firebringer claim a PR on D1 at the slightest sign of pressure? What does scum gain from that? He saves himself for a day or two at most.

GL -- you said this about Firebringer but it obviously applies to NH as well. Can you answer your own question?

There were important differences in how they claimed. Fire claimed PR incredibly early in the day, before there was even a substantial wagon on him, and he didn't claim a specific role.

NH claimed tracker as the day was winding down when they were much closer to being lynched. I've seen scum!Titus do this before (it was a blitz game, I can dig it up when I get on a computer), she claimed Cop in an open setup when she was at L-1 with a day until deadline. In a closed setup I would guess she would not at all hesitate to fakeclaim a PR to save herself, whereas Fire wasn't even remotely close to being lynched yet.

lol @ people saying titus is scummy and completely ignoring this head. feelsbadman
I can understand your frustration with titus this game but that doesnt make is scum nor are we

↑ ɀefiend wrote:Who are the "now-proven townies"? Also, you are being very non-committal about NH. If he can't be on a SC-scum team, then do you think the last scum is me or GL?

People who were mysteries on day one who are now dead. That seemed straightforward.

NH / SirCakez D1 interaction isn't scum-scum. NH's Thor position D1 is not scumbuddies.

Both of you were particularly defensive of votes on SirCakez on D1 / against the wagon on SirCakez D1. GL probably had the stronger of the two reactions (see 233 and 276 for examples) but then neither of you seem to give a crap about him until around today. Neither of you have substantial interactions with Thor or back. So I'm still kinda at pick-em in terms of interaction.

↑ Night Hunters wrote:lol @ people saying titus is scummy and completely ignoring this head. feelsbadman
I can understand your frustration with titus this game but that doesnt make is scum nor are we

It does make your slot scummy if she's scummy though
You compose half the slot, she composes the other

Dwlee's play is 100% town.
Titus' play is scummy.

lolk tell me more about how we're scum :3

I never said your play was town?

i mean it is though?
If you read anything I've posted you should be able to see how obvtown I am.
You haven't commented on ANYTHING I've posted. Literally nothing.

Most of your stuff relates to Titus though

the most it relates in the majority of cases is me saying "Titus and I disagree"
dude I'm not sure if you're:
1. Not reading
2. Confbiasing
or
3. Just plain scum

↑ Night Hunters wrote:Dwlee's play is 100% town.
Titus' play is scummy.

lolk tell me more about how we're scum :3

↑ Night Hunters wrote:lol @ people saying titus is scummy and completely ignoring this head. feelsbadman
I can understand your frustration with titus this game but that doesnt make is scum nor are we

↑ Night Hunters wrote:I cant speak for titus *shrug*
But cakes do you have any reason to think we are scum other than weird night interactions?

↑ Night Hunters wrote:Titus does the vca, not me. Also tho I want my question answered

↑ Night Hunters wrote:

↑ Titus wrote:Dwlee staph it. You're wrong here. Stop pestering massive.

catching this for titus


ok so my dad is on the computer but when he is off we can talk

↑ Night Hunters wrote:I saw very little in the first day that made me think NH wasn't town (the only thing was being the only vocal person against the Thor wagon), which helps settle some nagging feelings. They're the only one who consistently tried to figure out the game from the night actions, which is important, even though I think it's been distracting.

Mostly this. what are the nagging feelings of? Is it you trying to fabricate a scum read on us? That is what it feels like. Here is the thought process I see:
Nh seems town day one. Titus head defended thor though and is therefore scum. What?

All of these are about Titus