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Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:35 pm
by mbaki
In post 1624, implosion wrote:cases are scummy and anyone who makes any should be voted for unconditionally.
i hope this is ironic

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:36 pm
by mbaki
In post 1601, RadiantCowbells wrote:if being universally townread and leading a lynch on my buddy who is also universally townread isn't good enough, what exactly is?
i dont think brigitte was universally town read

i, for example, don't think i called her town at any point in this game, and i called a lot of people town

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:36 pm
by implosion

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:36 pm
by RadiantCowbells
cases aren't scummy they're just bad

why make a case on someone when you can just say hey i'm rc and i have an 100% meta read on someone kill them

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:37 pm
by RadiantCowbells
i think that's the mafia equivalent of let them eat cake, if i can lynch people with minimal effort and no cases why can't everyone do it

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:37 pm
by mbaki
In post 1614, Michael Scott wrote:I will also rely on slots that are established as reading you well.
Hi,

RC is town.

Sincerely,

your only town read

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:38 pm
by Michael Scott
Need that read accuracy first

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:38 pm
by implosion
ftr my calling brig strongly town revolved 100% around her claim + ReCh calling her town early which is why after i stopped spacing out i was happy to wagon her

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:38 pm
by Michael Scott
In post 1630, mbaki wrote:
In post 1614, Michael Scott wrote:I will also rely on slots that are established as reading you well.
Hi,

RC is town.

Sincerely,

your only town read
Cool then. RC is town.
:3

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:38 pm
by implosion
and yeah rc is town

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:39 pm
by mbaki
Implosion,

do you still scum read Michael Scott? Personally, I have them as high town. I also have you as high town and I had MS as kind of scummy d1 up until the last quarter, which is why I ask.

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:39 pm
by GuiltyLion
I'm doc, I saved RC last night

votes off me please

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:39 pm
by Michael Scott
Also Reality Check must be town right? Is mafia having a neighborhood with mafia a thing?

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:39 pm
by implosion
i don't have reads right now. I linked that bc it's the case i made to point out the irony.

I need to reevaluate him in light of his position on the wagon.

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:40 pm
by implosion
In post 1636, GuiltyLion wrote:I'm doc, I saved RC last night

votes off me please
why the fastclaim, and flavor, and which rc

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:40 pm
by Reality Check
hi guys

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:40 pm
by implosion
In post 1637, Michael Scott wrote:Also Reality Check must be town right? Is mafia having a neighborhood with mafia a thing?
It can be but i'd be surprised if they're scum.

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:41 pm
by mbaki
In post 1637, Michael Scott wrote:Also Reality Check must be town right? Is mafia having a neighborhood with mafia a thing?
Town or 3rd party, yes. If a 3rd party is in the game its actually kind of (?) likely to be them.

But I would say 9:1 town and we aren't lynching there pretty much ever bar weird shit. Also, their play was just townie anyways.

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:42 pm
by GuiltyLion
fast claim because I figure if I'm not the distraction/lynchpool today then we have good chance of just outright winning today if RadCow can focus elsewhere, and he was opening by death tunneling me so my claim was coming today sooner or later

flavor is Asuna's Lambent Light from Sword Art Online

RadiantCowbells RC whoops lol

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:43 pm
by Michael Scott
In post 1642, mbaki wrote:
In post 1637, Michael Scott wrote:Also Reality Check must be town right? Is mafia having a neighborhood with mafia a thing?
Town or 3rd party, yes. If a 3rd party is in the game its actually kind of (?) likely to be them.

But I would say 9:1 town and we aren't lynching there pretty much ever bar weird shit. Also, their play was just townie anyways.
Unlikely third party. If you observe Brigitte's Role PM, she was informed of her neighbor's alignment. Right?

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:43 pm
by RadiantCowbells
ok so regarding brigitte's iso we only have two real mentions of guiltylion

Spoiler: Brigitte GL posts
In post 674, Brigitte wrote:
In post 495, GuiltyLion wrote:RC you're frankly just bad at reading me

I can't remember a single game we've played recently where you've correctly townread me

if you're town here that'll be three in a row of you paranoia scumreading me for no reason

my scum game is not that good

and if my associatives with your scumreads are sloppy that makes me even more likely town
@GuiltyLion, What is the context of this post? This seems very overreaction to RCs read.
In post 677, Brigitte wrote:
In post 672, Fractured wrote:I agree. I am in a similar boat, this restrained posting is weird for me to get used to. How do you feel about GuiltyLion/mbaki?
mbaki has a certain flow to his posts that make it seem natural, so nothing has given me pauses. I am not sure about GuiltyLion yet.


Random distancey post calling GL out on overreacting into I'm not sure about GuiltyLion yet feels very SvS.
The fact that this constitutes the sum total of the interactions from this direction feels even moreso.
In post 360, GuiltyLion wrote:not really interested in the Brigitte/Reality Check/Radiant discussion except to affirm that I buy both of Brigitte's/Reality Check's claims regarding eachother and have them both as town
completely avoids the topic of brigitte's alignment by hiding behind claims when it initially comes up. notably this isn't actually that scummy in the grand scheme of things, moreso in the context of the iso.

Spoiler: responses to the aforementioned brigitte posts
In post 807, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 674, Brigitte wrote:
In post 495, GuiltyLion wrote:RC you're frankly just bad at reading me

I can't remember a single game we've played recently where you've correctly townread me

if you're town here that'll be three in a row of you paranoia scumreading me for no reason

my scum game is not that good

and if my associatives with your scumreads are sloppy that makes me even more likely town
@GuiltyLion, What is the context of this post? This seems very overreaction to RCs read.
the context is I had a number of townreads (implosion, mastina) either scumreading me or angling to scumread me, and the past couple of games I've played with RC he's scumread me when I've been town - last time being Half Flag Nightless where he literally attempted his gladiator thing on me for two straight days - and I did not want to have to deal with that again in this game. I definitely overreacted a bit but I also strongly did not feel like entertaining the direction the thread was heading.
In post 809, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 677, Brigitte wrote:
In post 672, Fractured wrote:I agree. I am in a similar boat, this restrained posting is weird for me to get used to. How do you feel about GuiltyLion/mbaki?
mbaki has a certain flow to his posts that make it seem natural, so nothing has given me pauses. I am not sure about GuiltyLion yet.
from the scumgame I saw from Eddie when I played with him a year or two ago, he's extremely good at sounding natural tonally. I only started catching onto him halfway through D2 when I noticed he wasn't actually ever taking stances or participating substantially in important questions on game events and players. which is the same kinda vibe I've gotten from him so far this game


again these both feel very busywork, methodical, checking off the boxes of having an interaction with my buddy posts. purely exchange of information, neither post actually goes anywhere, there's no feeling or impulse in either of them from either perspective.
In post 1376, GuiltyLion wrote:I'm willing to sheep Reality Check on town!Fractured for today, especially if Reality Check is more confident on Fractured than Brigitte - who I could compromise on if Radiant is absolutely sure on

my first choice is Michael Scott or Varsoon lynches today

I'm townreading Johnny English more than I was previously despite still disagreeing with a number of his reads

I'll be around for the rest of the day
In post 1377, GuiltyLion wrote:actually nah I re-ISO'd Brigitte and I'm not feeling scum there
oh maybe i could vote brigitte
but nahhh
In post 1533, GuiltyLion wrote:@mbaki - just 3 games it's not actually statistically significant, but I had him correctly as town twice and caught him as scum page 1 in the other game

I'm starting to feel the same way. I don't like any of the Brigitte/Alonzo/Parm lynches but the game is starting to feel murky enough that I'm worried maybe I'm wrong on a scum in the three. I don't think it's something that would change pre flips though.

outside of implo/reality check i'm still missing some absolute locktown reads which is making sorting the rest of the players hard.

and p-edit with that implosion vote, honestly the brigitte wagon looks pretty good comp wise. and thinking about it more that question about why I was townreading her may have been designed to make me look bad if she were to flip scum
In post 1534, GuiltyLion wrote:if I just had a green check on Michael Scott or RadCow right now I'd feel so much better about a Brigitte vote
and again, pays lip service towards being interested in a brigitte vote maybe but doesn't actually go there. feels svs just tonally as well. also the 'designed to make me look bad if she were to flip scum' is pure scum being aware of the associatives.



I noted that GL claimed doc on me, shrugged, and continued writing the case. We'll see where this goes.

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:44 pm
by GuiltyLion
I think it's one of Varsoon/Parm/Alonzo
+
mbaki is the scum bussing on the wagon

RadCow you should check my claim lol

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:44 pm
by RadiantCowbells
I saw the claim and continued writing the case. shrug. maybe we don't lynch you today? i'll look for other people i want to lynch.

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:45 pm
by mbaki
mbaki RaCh RaCo Johnny Parm
Implo

big gappers

MS
Alonzo

big gappers

Frac GL Varsoon
Love




Okay idc about my gambit, I don't have any results I'm either a vanilla rapier or some shitty useless role. RC, I reviewed Parm's mains meta again, I will bet the game he's town.

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:45 pm
by GuiltyLion
In post 1645, RadiantCowbells wrote:oh maybe i could vote brigitte
but nahhh
the fact that you think I would ever explicitly do this as scum is exactly why you keep incorrectly scumreading me