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Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:54 pm
by Extrapolated Eagle
This doesn't particularly look like scum interaction to me:
In post 558, Xtoxm wrote: In post 549, grapes wrote:re;
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10785600
Alisae it feels a bit early for you give up trying to read me altogether?
I understand that grapes are inanimate objects but I am not.
Why the blind faith in xtom?
Cuz now that it's relevant and I'm thinking about it the couple games I've played with him was him-scum me-town... and gameboy advance mafia where he
lead a mislynch
on me...
VOTE: xtoxm
From GBA mafia:
In post 827, Xtoxm wrote:idk about grapes. he's doing all the right things. refusing to claim though.
if he's scum he's good at fake towning.
In post 1136, Xtoxm wrote:anyway sorry grapes if you were town but it all points at you.
we have a fair amount circumstantial evidence for fire + knuckles being town. strong evidence for everyone else being town. i'm pretty much a counterclaim to you and town seems kinda OP if you're real.
grapes (4): Firebringer, Knuckles, Davsto,
Xtoxm
[LYNCH!]
Davsto (1) grapes
Not Voting: Vedith, Aj The Epic
With 7 votes, 4 to lynch
I don't know how in your world a hammer vote equates to leading a mislynch.
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:55 pm
by Prince of Renais
If you think you have a 3 person Poe pool you're terrible at this game
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:55 pm
by Extrapolated Eagle
I'm confused at what you're getting at.
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:56 pm
by Prince of Renais
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:08 pm
by Extrapolated Eagle
I follow.
Huh.
Vedith was in YCBA as well, I just forgot about him because I knew him as the other side of Firebringer. Fascinating.
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:09 pm
by DrDolittle
No I said i think theres one scum there, not that's my only scum candidates...
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:12 pm
by DrDolittle
All right Mr smartypants good at mafia guy why dont you give me something good so I can sheep then.
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:16 pm
by Dannflor
Gut reaction I want to scum read EE's over explainy grapes thing and white knight of me, but it fits his try hard play style all game that I think is too genuine to come from scum. I also don't think this game is really within Enter's scum range (no offense) from what I've seen.
I guess I understand the argument of "if EE is scum we lose," and Prince if you're extremely confident that lynch and following your PoE will give us the best chances of winning I'll sheep you there. I'm just concerned that once you're gone your town block won't be untouchable (as seen already with the Alisae wagon) and that lynching a likely town EE will destroy what (semi) consensus town bloc we have.
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:21 pm
by Extrapolated Eagle
In post 1632, Dannflor wrote:Gut reaction I want to scum read EE's over explainy grapes thing and white knight of me, but it fits his try hard play style all game that I think is too genuine to come from scum. I also don't think this game is really within Enter's scum range (no offense) from what I've seen.
I guess I understand the argument of "if EE is scum we lose," and Prince if you're extremely confident that lynch and following your PoE will give us the best chances of winning I'll sheep you there. I'm just concerned that once you're gone your town block won't be untouchable (as seen already with the Alisae wagon) and that lynching a likely town EE will destroy what (semi) consensus town bloc we have.
None taken, I'm a terrible liar.
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:24 pm
by Alisae
Dann
if your that worried I'll pick up the slack day 3.
Glueing people and trying to get people working together is honestly what I thrive and and I'll probably be re-motivated to play then since I have to make sure people don't disregard what Prince says after he dies.
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:25 pm
by Dannflor
Jingle's read on me is fine, I don't really fault his reasoning and I don't think it's a productive use of my time right now to argue about
Also scum is probably more likely to town read me here just because it's an easy read to have and I haven't been particularly decisive or threatening with my reads yet unfortunately
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:26 pm
by Dannflor
In post 1634, Alisae wrote:Dann
if your that worried I'll pick up the slack day 3.
Glueing people and trying to get people working together is honestly what I thrive and and I'll probably be re-motivated to play then since I have to make sure people don't disregard what Prince says after he dies.
can you avoid a meme lynch after he dies?
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:26 pm
by Extrapolated Eagle
A trick I've learned recently is townreading players that make the game make sense regardless of whether or not they specifically deserve the townread on their own accord.
Making the game make sense with you as scum doesn't work for me right now so you're town and discussing your alignment won't get us anywhere productive, I don't think.
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:28 pm
by Dannflor
I did this and at least from EE's POV I don't think this is possible
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:28 pm
by Alisae
In post 1636, Dannflor wrote: In post 1634, Alisae wrote:Dann
if your that worried I'll pick up the slack day 3.
Glueing people and trying to get people working together is honestly what I thrive and and I'll probably be re-motivated to play then since I have to make sure people don't disregard what Prince says after he dies.
can you avoid a meme lynch after he dies?
yeet
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:29 pm
by Extrapolated Eagle
In post 1581, Dannflor wrote: In post 1579, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:The story behind Elyse is that I caught her, called her scum, and pushed her, but she was buddying some of other more prominent members of town, who decided that I was probably scum for scumreading her. (I mean I haven't read the game in a while, but it was a really emotional game for me, I still have dreams about it and stuff so it's possible I'm getting some of the facts wrong, but close enough). Anyways, I called Elyse scum and was pushing her. TSO and Titus didn't believe me, TSO went head to head with me for a long period of day 4. Being as involved as I was (I had the second highest postcount including some of the walliest posts in the game and I was posting on my phone exclusively), I didn't respond in a particularly emotionally stable manner. I fell prey to my inferior emotions and tried to gladiate TSO. We yelled at each other for a bit, I tried to replace out and thought better of it (I know, I'm sorry, I'm a terrible person), and then I thought about everything and pushed Elyse again. Elyse won the game in Lylo because she had TSO so deep pocketed and because I lost my head and couldn't keep it on straight. Anyways I asked him if he remembered Elyse because I'm always thinking about You Could Be Anyone IV. If my memory serves me right, that was some of the best town game I've ever had (I had solid reads that game, IIRC) and I'm relatively proud of everything up until the day when I pushed my own lynch, frustrated, and hoping people would sheep my reads after I was dead. Some day I'll play a game of mafia that surpasses YCBA IV and I'll feel redeemed for my actions.
So I kinda forgot the game was happening, but I've played this setup a couple times in sitechat before...
My mafia career in one sentence:
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Alisae wrote: In post 1636, Dannflor wrote: In post 1634, Alisae wrote:Dann
if your that worried I'll pick up the slack day 3.
Glueing people and trying to get people working together is honestly what I thrive and and I'll probably be re-motivated to play then since I have to make sure people don't disregard what Prince says after he dies.
can you avoid a meme lynch after he dies?
yeet
Confidence restored.
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:30 pm
by Dannflor
I've said a lot about Vedith, any comments on my thoughts there?
Why do you think he's scum?
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:32 pm
by Dannflor
Oh ok you were town that game
I was wondering if that ramble-post was a scum tell of yours but I guess it's just an Enter tell
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:34 pm
by Prince of Renais
DrDolittle
Shoshin
Clemency
Lycanfire
Dannflor
Extrapolated Eagle
Vedith
Okay let's do this differently
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:35 pm
by Prince of Renais
Who here thinks that anyone on this list should not be lynched before LyLo
Who here thinks that anyone not on this list.should be lynched before LyLo
Cases please
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:39 pm
by Dannflor
Gamma Emerald immediately comes to mind
How do you have such a confident read on her?
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:40 pm
by Dannflor
actually I looked and it's just lean town, regardless
I couldn't get any read on her
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:40 pm
by Extrapolated Eagle
In post 1642, Dannflor wrote:
Oh ok you were town that game
I was wondering if that ramble-post was a scum tell of yours but I guess it's just an Enter tell
I was significantly worse back then.
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:41 pm
by Extrapolated Eagle
In post 1644, Prince of Renais wrote:Who here thinks that anyone on this list should not be lynched before LyLo
Who here thinks that anyone not on this list.should be lynched before LyLo
Cases please
I've already cased two of those players and one of them is me.
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:41 pm
by Extrapolated Eagle
Also you're moving in the wrong direction with your reads. We only agree on two, now.