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Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:56 am
by OkaPoka
In post 1624, gobbledygook wrote:Your scum reads and your reasoning behind them, Oka.
which of the reads are you curious about because i have posted about all of them

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:56 am
by Alisae
The best way to have pleasant, non-toxic games is to avoid playing with toxic players

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:58 am
by Ankamius
In post 220, Hectic wrote:how common is asceticism?
the biggest thing that can probably get the point that I find his entire approach to the game very bizarre is this post.

Namely, look at that entire page and try to figure out where exactly this post came from.

As an addition, what I really don't like is that most of his ISO is shitposting and memes, and his content posts look like this:
In post 281, Hectic wrote:why don't you be the change you want to see Ank?
give us something worthwhile
In post 403, Hectic wrote:Reasonably rational town
don't really get what's going on with Espeonage/Pine
In post 407, Hectic wrote:agree with Pine and FL
why is Espeonage announcing himself as the strongest town PR in the game?
In post 627, Hectic wrote:
In post 609, Bitmap wrote:@Titus: WHY ARE YOU STILL TALKING ABOUT MASONS????????

Titus stop.
over reaction
she was explaining how drafting works without listing any names
please enter the FoS (Field of Suspects)
In post 644, Hectic wrote:isn't TSE being TOO dumb this game?
also for the record
Aaron Fucking Frost is town
In post 1183, Hectic wrote:
In post 1163, Sherlock and Watson wrote:
Spoiler: Mason Eyes Only
What do you think of GG? Of the currently active posters he's the only one I'd consider for recruitment. What do you think?


-S
Spoiler: Masonry message
let's have a look through their ISO
the entrance calling Pine scum because town!Pine wouldn't claim. towny.
spammed a few too many questions without giving material. scummish.
trash talking Ali. townary?
refusing to claim ascetic without good reason. towning.
trying to solve TSE rather than deafult him as village idiot. town.
RR read is eh. meh.
reasons for killing Pine in . town AFF.
is odd, hope there's a reason for it. scummo.

they're townishread won't strongly advocate but won't veto either.
AFF you should chip in.
I'm not seeing consistent thought processes in any of his posts, which is rather interesting for somebody who has been engaged as heavily into the game as Hectic and with the amount of general 'content' he's posted in the game. I saw significantly more in the last time I've seen him in a game.

To make it worse, there actually is a thought process in his ISO, but, well, the process behind these posts are unnatural.
In post 1496, Hectic wrote:
In post 1370, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1368, Sherlock and Watson wrote:
In post 1363, Flavor Leaf wrote:Does Alisae have access to the Mafia PT and can talk in it?
I'm like ready to town boon but I actually feel really surprised this is a question he is asking, almost too much?

idk maybe not

-S
My dumbness as scum comes off a lot more genuine than it does when I’m town.

Antihero commented one a dead thread once “if Boon is scum, that’s the best fake confusion I’ve ever seen”

When I’m town being dumb, I’m being a derp.

ScumDerp is like when I slip, but I cleverly figure out a way against it.
In post 1371, Flavor Leaf wrote:The masonry is outed?
this post following the first one is hilarious
Leafy's feeling obvtown
with the mason bloc slipping
and the "too lazy to go and check but it should be 4 or 5 scum this game"
In post 1497, Hectic wrote:Leafy, your logic for TSE regarding drafting is:
-Last person Ali would pick
-Therefore, raises his chance of being picked
-Which lowers the chance of him being picked
-Which puts him middle of the pack for picks

Your logic for yourself:
-Ali would never pick me
-Therefore, Ali would never pick me

why the difference?
In post 1500, Hectic wrote:
In post 1381, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1379, Sherlock and Watson wrote:
In post 1376, Flavor Leaf wrote:Aaron and Hectic were lean towns for me from my read through, I commented on my AF read, so that’s good that my gut was right with them.

Pine being a mason actually helps a lot, and lowers a heavy pick.
hmmmmmmmmmm

I claim masons and Boon does not get the joke

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

HMMMMMMMM

hmmmm

nah not gonna think more about it right now

-S
I thought you said Hectic, Pine, AF were masons in your one post, so i thought you were just trollin
here Leafy thinks Sherlock's hmmming is regarding Sherlock himself claiming mason
still thinks Hectic AaronFF Pine are masons
that's some advanced confusion if scum
I didn't spoiler the above because somehow it ate my post when I tried last time. Sorry.

Anyways, I don't find it to be very natural to call a slot obvtown, then to ask them a question that normally would be used for sorting, and then to explain the read afterwards.

I also don't feel like the interaction with Spiffeh shortly afterwards was for any reason other than to force a random read on them either. It's so stilted of an engagement that it's hard to see it as genuine.

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:59 am
by gobbledygook
In post 1625, OkaPoka wrote:
In post 1624, gobbledygook wrote:Your scum reads and your reasoning behind them, Oka.
which of the reads are you curious about because i have posted about all of them
Can you list which posts you have talked about them

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:59 am
by Ankamius
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Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:02 am
by Sherlock and Watson
"feeling obvtown" is very different from "obvtown" and actually it makes a lot of sense to ask a question to solidify the "obvtown" feeling

-S

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:02 am
by OkaPoka
In post 1628, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 1625, OkaPoka wrote:
In post 1624, gobbledygook wrote:Your scum reads and your reasoning behind them, Oka.
which of the reads are you curious about because i have posted about all of them
Can you list which posts you have talked about them
u can iso me but heres a very quick summary

flavor - walls of confusion
ank - sub-ankimal votes
amrun - lurker + eli
gobble - eli mainly

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:03 am
by Sherlock and Watson
The Spiffeh questions are to double-check that there's no actually good arguments against my inclusion in his PoF

His process looks really townie and intuitive to me, sorry Ank but I think you're barking up the wrong tree personally

-S

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:05 am
by Flavor Leaf
My walls make perfect sense in my head, what you talkin bout confusion, i ain’t no low level psychic type,

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:05 am
by Sherlock and Watson
I think amrun is pretty caught up with her childcare issues, that being said we do need more content from her before the end of the day for her to be readable. she's fine in the poe but I'm not betting on her flipping red

-S

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:06 am
by gobbledygook
UNVOTE:

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:06 am
by Ankamius
ngl krazy, I think your reads are below average

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Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:06 am
by OkaPoka
In post 1634, Sherlock and Watson wrote:I think amrun is pretty caught up with her childcare issues, that being said we do need more content from her before the end of the day for her to be readable. she's fine in the poe but I'm not betting on her flipping red

-S
u see but eli

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:07 am
by gobbledygook
Amrun is regularly VLA on weekends. She primarily plays from her work computer. Her not being here is currently not alignment indicative.

This is the second game I’ve had to say this about Amrun.

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:08 am
by OkaPoka
im aware certain people are available on certain times but

eli

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:09 am
by Ankamius
In post 1630, Sherlock and Watson wrote:"feeling obvtown" is very different from "obvtown" and actually it makes a lot of sense to ask a question to solidify the "obvtown" feeling

-S
In post 1632, Sherlock and Watson wrote:The Spiffeh questions are to double-check that there's no actually good arguments against my inclusion in his PoF

His process looks really townie and intuitive to me, sorry Ank but I think you're barking up the wrong tree personally

-S
are we even reading the same game?

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Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:09 am
by OkaPoka
because otherwise id have pine in my slots too

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:10 am
by Sherlock and Watson
In post 1636, Ankamius wrote:ngl krazy, I think your reads are below average
u wanna fite me?

:3

-S

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:10 am
by Espeonage
Okay, I'm not posting in the middle of night while freaking out about possible flooding of my apartment any more.

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:10 am
by Titus
Ank, I have to agree with the consensus. The method is a rhetorical method. The name escapes me but I think it's unimportant.

Statement
Question to display statement
Repeat conclusion

I did something similar when Chemist asked me if he was an emotional or logic based player. I didn't outright state which he was, but the premise was similar. I knew Chemist tends to be a more emotional player and would give me an emotional response. A logic based player reacts differently.

Nothing is wrong with the tool as presented. It's completely NAI in theory but I think Hectic is town because of how he implemented it.

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:12 am
by Sherlock and Watson
Like if hectic is scum I do need to know it but I am not seeing it from the issues you pointed to right now, I see a lot of town thought process there, or at the very least a compelling emulation of town thought processes

the aaron towncase was a meme but it also felt really good to me because I felt like we were seeing a lot of the same things in aaron. I think it would be surprising for scum to be mind-melding with me about the same posts in at the same time for a lot of the same reasons

-S

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:14 am
by Titus
Hey, what do you guys think of the MariaR/Dunn hydra?

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:14 am
by Ankamius
Very well. I will return to observing in the meantime.

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Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:14 am
by Titus
In post 1643, Espeonage wrote:Okay, I'm not posting in the middle of night while freaking out about possible flooding of my apartment any more.
Glad your apartment is ok.

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:15 am
by Espeonage
In post 1646, Titus wrote:Hey, what do you guys think of the MariaR/Dunn hydra?
Happy to be buddied for a day or two so idc if they are scum rn.