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[Wake1]

Perhaps this is bad Town play, but I put a premium on Final VCs each Day.

I'm certain at least ONE Scum is among those who took part in the Day 2 and 3 lynches.

I'm not Scum, and of the remaining that leaves Bob, profii, and L/D.

At least one of them is Scum. The other Scum likely stayed off the wagon, perhaps not voting whatsoever.

Why was Hectic killed? Why would Scum kill him? What would be their angle?

Also, the sheer amount of replacements is bullshit, and makes trying to pick through this game a bit of a bitch.

A lot of Town were on the Scum lynch D1.

Morning Tweet and L/D are still alive.

Profii helped lynch Scum D1.

I think I'm gonna have to go with my gut on this one.

VOTE: Lucky

[bob3141]

I think all of [Lucky/Morning/Wake] are town.

That would be reason enough for scu to kill hectic

That reduces his vote to pool of 4 players. me , adora, profi and clidd

one mislynch to go. So his vote would be with in pool of 4 votes with 3 goes.


And it was quite clear he town read clidd. By the fact he expected him to to die tonight instead.

Hectic was largely town read. So its not like they could lynch him.

I know im town

so based on hectic dying

The scum team is adora and profii

Suprise suprise one player who pushed that wake teh watcher was scum day 2-3. And adora who is heavily hinting he wants to lynch in the pr



All town needs to do is avoid lynching in the pr and its prety much a town win for us

oh and dont lynch clidd as what ever you might of though about alor clidd is very towny.

[LuckyLuciano]

I'm around. Having my coffee and catching up. I protected Adorable last night. I figured the CSF/Adorable slot was mafia and that I was the NK target. I'm going to go back through their iso and retrace my thought process.

[LuckyLuciano]

Ngl, I felt pretty detached from the game earlier given that Dave full claimed and I figured I was repping into a dead slot. Personally I wouldn't have outed as babysitter so early, I would have fake claimed bodyguard. I think replacing out after rageclaiming in a way that makes your slot a prime NK target is a shitty thing to do. Anyhoo, time to dig back into the game.

[clidd]

I'm back.

[clidd]

OK, so I watched Dave/Lucky slot N3 and no one visited.

Ok, plausible.

[Morning Tweet]

What do you make of Lucky opting to try and target scum rather than a nightkill target, bob?

[LuckyLuciano]

I'm still around, btw. This catchup is going to be a while, but it'll be worth it.

[Morning Tweet]

ROLE CLAIMS //
Wake - Voted Alo D1, Voted Creature D2, (considered Lucky D3)
Lucky/Dave - Voted Alo D1, Voted Creature D2, (considered Wake D3)

VT CLAIMS //
Profii - Voted Chem D1, Voted Creature D2, (considered Wake D3 and Lucky D2)
Bob - Voted Dave D1, Voted Creature D2
Adorable/Cat - Voted Chem D1, Voted Gamma D2

If the scumteam is Lucky/bob, then that'd mean there were actually 0 bussers D1. Lucky-dave voted for Alo-clidd, and bob voted for Lucky-dave (??)

im actually leaning towards it being Lucky + Adorable/profii. I am almost certain scum bussed tictac-Chem, and profii/Adorable fit that bill well

Bob has some weird behaviour: Voting dave over Chem D1, Refusing to vote Gamma and instead hopping on Creature D2 but then easily voting Gamma D3. Still, it's not outside of believability that he's town

Profii and Adorable-Cat, on the other hand, readily bussed Chem D1. Cat was on the wagon early, while profii hopped on after Hectic's case. Profii was on Creature D2, while Adorable was on Gamma D2

[Morning Tweet]

I'm still around, btw. This catchup is going to be a while, but it'll be worth it.

oo i'm already getting excited!

[clidd]

I have this composition in my head:

HoldenGolden -

Town Role Cop

Gamma Emerald -

Town Ascetic

LuckyLuciano -

Babysitter

Wake88 -

Watcher

SirCakez -

Town Neighborizer Enabler

Morning Tweet -

Town Neighbouriser

I'm a little confused by the mechanics, but as far as I know the normal number of PRs is usually 4, and in the composition above we have 5 claims (ignoring Gamma). Mathematically, there should be at least 1 scum among PRs.

[bob3141]

What do you make of Lucky opting to try and target scum rather than a nightkill target, bob?

that lucky is using the slot like vig

[LuckyLuciano]

^ My favorite role is vig.

[LuckyLuciano]

AskBob, have you used the gambler's fallacy to justify RVS votes outside of this game?

[Morning Tweet]

What do you make of Lucky opting to try and target scum rather than a nightkill target, bob?

that lucky is using the slot like vig

Ah i was referring to a point i have in my memory that you made

It was something like, if the babysitter claim is fake, then he's going to claim to have targeted someone scummy instead of towny and that's why he couldn't save the NK

Not really conclusive evidence. I could see doing that myself as a babysitter. but i do find it interesting that is in fact what he was he ended up doing

[LuckyLuciano]

Being completely transparent, I didn't want to protect Wake because of the consequences my death would have. I was going to waive but felt bad for putting 0 effort into the game, so with 5 hours left I did a quick, half-assed skim of the game and decided Adorable was probably scum and protected them.

[LuckyLuciano]

So far I'm still leaning towards that slot being scum.

[Morning Tweet]

Did you expect scum to attack the PR claims?

Also, if you've gotten a chance to see it, what do you make of bob's case for both scum being in the VTs?

[LuckyLuciano]

I came into the game with a defeatist mindset after seeing that Dave claimed a role that nets the mafia 2 kills for the price of one. I expected scum to attack me. Especially because I wasn't particularly engaged last day phase, it makes sense for mafia to think I just protect the watcher because that's the easy play to make. So I assumed that they have reason not to kill Wake, and they have reason to kill me, therefore I just looked for someone who I think is scummy and called it a day.

[LuckyLuciano]

If you link Bob's case I'll have a look at it.

[LuckyLuciano]

@Wake, was CSF town in your 50p game?

[Morning Tweet]

Oh i believe i've been misinterpreting him. He thinks that Wake is mechanically town, not the other PRs.

1580 / 1581 / 1582

That should be a condensed version by him, i think.

And in 1626 he claims the scumteam is likely profii/Adorable

[LuckyLuciano]

I think it makes a lot of sense to believe that Wake is mechanically town. I also know that I'm town and so far in my catch-up I'm town on you. What that leaves us with is does scum!Bob have a way to achieve his wincon by lynching outside of {Wake, MT, Lucky}? We're at 5v2 right now, meaning we have 1 mislynch left. Scum can win even if they both exist within a lynchpool of {Adora, Bob, Clidd, Profii}. At the moment I'm inclined to agree with him, at least on not lynching the PRs and on Adora being scum, but it's early in my catchup.

[bob3141]

What do you make of Lucky opting to try and target scum rather than a nightkill target, bob?

that lucky is using the slot like vig

Ah i was referring to a point i have in my memory that you made

It was something like, if the babysitter claim is fake, then he's going to claim to have targeted someone scummy instead of towny and that's why he couldn't save the NK

Not really conclusive evidence. I could see doing that myself as a babysitter. but i do find it interesting that is in fact what he was he ended up doing

if your refering to what i think you are. then you got teh wrong end of the stick as last day i did mention that a town babysitter would have to be used as vengful vig. While also trying to influence scum into not killing wake. By floating the idea that lucky might gambit and protect wake rather than using as vig. While also pushing that he would prob sit on scum.

[LuckyLuciano]

bob, have you used the gambler's fallacy in RVS before?