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Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 9:36 am
by Nero Cain
cure: Mastina
babysit: A50
track: Auro
watch:tchill

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 9:37 am
by Auro
He's making up some bullshit hoping that somehow town will buy all of it?

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 9:37 am
by 50 Judge Powers
In post 1125, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:I think it’s worthwhile to note that there is mafia and then there is infected and while infected are considered mafia-aligned the mafia are not classified as infected.
Slightly redeeming.

Also, don't be fooled by my sudden boost in motivation. I'm sure it will soon fade away again. I'm just trying to do the most with it while it lasts

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 9:38 am
by Quick
In post 1626, Auro wrote:He's making up some bullshit hoping that somehow town will buy all of it?
Didn't you already infect Nero?

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 9:39 am
by Auro
In post 1628, Quick wrote:
In post 1626, Auro wrote:He's making up some bullshit hoping that somehow town will buy all of it?
Didn't you already infect Nero?
What does that tell you about me?

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 9:40 am
by mastina
In post 686, davesaz wrote:Actually I wonder if scum strategy would be to form a townblock and subvert it. Being able to infect the universal TRs would be a great strategy.
That's what anti-infection roles are for. :doc:

(If an anti-infection role isn't targeting the likes of Nero or similar never-scum universal townreads, they'd be outright trolling.)
In post 692, Nero Cain wrote:As someone that normally finds Mastina scummy, I rather not lynch her today. OFC the inverse of that argument is that I don't want to have to worry about an infected Mastina (if I'm right that she's town) and lynching her would alleviate that.
Eh. If the scum infect me, it's their loss--literally. When I say there's a night and day difference between my towngame and my scumgame right now, that I fundamentally cannot get myself to put in more than the bare minimum,
I'm not joking
, so there would be an immediate
stark
contrast in my behavior, where, sure, I'd still be posting once a day to avoid getting prodded, but my content would plummet off a cliff into nonexistence pretty much.

Plus, scum infecting me would, presumably, be obvious when I'd flip as originally-town-that-was-infected, tantamount to the scum nightkilling me, soooo. If the scum want to spend what amounts to basically a factional nightkill on me, then who am I to complain? It means they saw me as a threat. That's an honor.

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 9:41 am
by Quick
In post 1629, Auro wrote:
In post 1628, Quick wrote:
In post 1626, Auro wrote:He's making up some bullshit hoping that somehow town will buy all of it?
Didn't you already infect Nero?
What does that tell you about me?
Says more about Nero, honestly.

What a pointed dishonest question.

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 9:42 am
by Auro
My infecting Nero says more about Nero than it does about me..?

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 9:42 am
by 50 Judge Powers
In post 1130, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:I think infected people can infect other people by doing night actions but mafia don’t inherently infect people with their actions.
Geez! Just when I was considering reconsidering my read on you. It says the infection is a factional thing, and the infected are NOT "Mafia" themselves. They are 3P aligned with the Scum. That is why the mod has them as a separate entity when stating the wincons. It says the win con for Mafia/Infected, which is a clear indication Infected =/= Mafia, and thus Infected canNOT infect people, because ONLY MAFIA CAN.

Now I challenge you to design a game with your stated/allegedly perceived mechanics, and make it remotely balanced. You've got until the end of the year.

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 9:42 am
by Nero Cain
In post 1630, mastina wrote:(If an anti-infection role isn't targeting the likes of Nero or similar never-scum universal townreads, they'd be outright trolling.)
not true! they could just be bad

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 9:43 am
by EspeciallyTheLies
In post 1604, 50 Judge Powers wrote:Again: NO. Only the original 3 members of Mafia can infect people.
You're speaking on this so confidently as though you know for sure, when you should know about as much as we all do.

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 9:44 am
by Quick
In post 1632, Auro wrote:My infecting Nero says more about Nero than it does about me..?
Hey, would you stop asking me things, I am trying to lurk here.

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 9:44 am
by EspeciallyTheLies
In post 1606, Nero Cain wrote:would be funny if a50 DID slip the mafia has multiple infections tonight to start building up that pool
I was going to ask why he said they each can infect, because I did not get that impression from the setup.

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 9:45 am
by Nero Cain
if you are trying to lurk u r doing a v bad job.

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 9:45 am
by EspeciallyTheLies
In post 1609, 50 Judge Powers wrote:
In post 1096, Quick wrote:Except people are not going to know they are infected...
That can't be the case, because if you don't know then you don't know your own wincon. An infected player should get a notification of their alignment change to be able to play to their new wincon.

By now I am sus of both ETL & Quick for missing fundamental concepts of how a game should work despite them both being experienced enough.
jfc.... keep reading the fucking thread and THEN say shit because we already went through all this and determined that already. christ

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 9:46 am
by EspeciallyTheLies
In post 1614, davesaz wrote:BTW 50's posts that are happening now are town-indicative.
not. at. all.

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 9:47 am
by 50 Judge Powers
Like, really... Mafia is lucky enough to infect a Fruit vendor on N1 (say), and on N2 they infect a Hider, while the FV infects some other player. That'd be 3 infected already by the start of D3, and then by the start of D4 the Mafia infect someone and each of their recruits infects another and we have 6 infected + 3 Mafia + 3 lynched + 2 killed (assuming they don't kill an infected player). The game is fucking over already because there's no way we can lynch 3 Mafia before the Mafia + Infected gain parity.

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 9:47 am
by Nero Cain
in fairness, a50 did say "infect" as if he was still aware that its not like all 3 really can recruit but the way he put it was still very very strange.

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 9:48 am
by EspeciallyTheLies
In post 1617, mastina wrote:I feel like I have good reasons to suspect ET
Nope. You're wrong. You never fucking admit it either. What is most aggravating is you speaking as though you have a clue what you're talking about when it comes to reading me. If you're actually town here, this makes it absolutely crystal clear that you have your head up your ass when it comes to me and you need to come to terms with that fact so you can figure shit out properly and stop misrepping me.

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 9:48 am
by EspeciallyTheLies
In post 1619, 50 Judge Powers wrote:How does ETL agree to Quick's proposition the infected may not be informed of their infection, yet still asks the mod about them announcing it?? I mean, the question directed @Mod doesn't appear to have a shred of doubt about them getting notified of it.

VOTE: ETL
:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 9:49 am
by EspeciallyTheLies
ok.

so listen up. when i flip town, please look at the people who pushed me with poor cases and made up bullshit. LEARN FROM THIS.

VOTE: ETL

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 9:49 am
by EspeciallyTheLies
In post 1645, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:ok.

so listen up. when i flip town, please look at the people who pushed me with poor cases and made up bullshit. LEARN FROM THIS.

VOTE: ETL
In particular, mastina A50, and hoctac.

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 9:50 am
by Flavor Leaf
66 pages... I’m never catching up

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 9:50 am
by Nero Cain
interesting turn of events

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 9:50 am
by Jake The Wolfie
SIR, please desist.