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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:45 am
by DonCorleone
VOTE: pooky

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:56 am
by Klick
We have 14 hours left. Pooky is at L-1; Sleeper and Clover are at L-3.


We should lynch Pooky unless someone wants to give a really good reason to swap over to another wagon.

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:59 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
vote Clover
get him tommorrow for me pls thx. look at his iso its basically contentless.

good luck i tried my best


go town.

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:07 am
by Deimos27
Maybe I'm getting AtE'd but I like Pooky's recent content. Sleeper is better for the PoE since he can be scum with basically anyone but Pooky is unlikely scum with Aldus for example, who's one of my top 2 off-coalition suspects.

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:08 am
by Deimos27
DC can you do more than just naked vote :/

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:09 am
by Deimos27
Pooky vote Sleeper with me he's gonna be a trainwreck of a slot for the whole game but Clover can maybe still produce content and become readable we can reassess him tomorrow

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:11 am
by Deimos27
If Pooky scum and Chemist town why did Pooky defend him today

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:12 am
by Deimos27
He was 1v1 with that slot for a while would it have been beyond belief for him to oppose the wagon that hard and try to buddy for an off-wagon Wug lynch?

Speaking of which, if Pooky is incompatible with Wug because he pushed Wug, and incompatible with Aldus because Aldus pushed him, maybe he doesn't have good options for teammates here?

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:14 am
by Deimos27
In post 1632, Deimos27 wrote:He was 1v1 with that slot for a while would it have been beyond belief for him to oppose the wagon that hard and try to buddy for an off-wagon Wug lynch?
This point actually makes no sense. Pay attention to the second one instead.

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:18 am
by Klick
I don't think Pooky/Wug is an incompatible team. The Wug push post-coalition was silly and was never going to get off the ground, and I think scum!Pooky is aware of that.
Pooky didn't really defend Koba with much conviction.

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:20 am
by Deimos27
Actually though looking at who has pushed Pooky and who Pooky has pushed, who are good candidates for his scumbuddy? Pretty much exactly Koba/Chemist. So if you read Koba/Chemist as town you should read Pooky as town.

Maybe he can also still be scum w/ like, Sleeper, but then why not lynch Sleeper instead?

P-Edit: Ignore the Koba point. I'm more concerned about whether Pooky/Wug is compatible, and I'm not convinced it is. Let me look at some earlier interactions too though.

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:21 am
by DonCorleone
In post 1629, Deimos27 wrote:DC can you do more than just naked vote :/
I can when I feel like it

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:23 am
by Deimos27
Ok I guess there's a world where the Tux/Pooky 1v1 towards the start of the game was scum theatre but I don't know.

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:27 am
by Deimos27
Spoiler:
In post 233, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 192, Tuxedo Mask wrote:They are also being way less confrontational.
are you high or something?

I'm less confrontational because we're in the look for good guys phase, not the look for bad guys phase.
In post 235, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Like I'm not even looking for scum right now, so it makes no sense to run aggressive attacks on people since we're doing coalition building not scum lynching
In post 237, Tuxedo Mask wrote:
In post 233, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 192, Tuxedo Mask wrote:They are also being way less confrontational.
are you high or something?

I'm less confrontational because we're in the look for good guys phase, not the look for bad guys phase.
You can still make a town block by aggressively scum hunting. You just use POE.
In post 242, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 237, Tuxedo Mask wrote:You can still make a town block by aggressively scum hunting. You just use POE.
that's such an ass-backwards way of building a good town block.


Attacking people to try to make them slip doesn't really work when you're not in the lynching phase of the game. if anything it's a distraction.
In post 243, Tuxedo Mask wrote:
In post 241, Deimos27 wrote:
In post 235, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Like I'm not even looking for scum right now, so it makes no sense to run aggressive attacks on people since we're doing coalition building not scum lynching
This is a very good response and I feel like an idiot for not making the connection on my own.
I really don't see it as a reason to play differently, care to explain? It also doesn't wave away the reduced post count. Something Bear said they do as scum
In post 244, Tuxedo Mask wrote:
In post 242, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 237, Tuxedo Mask wrote:You can still make a town block by aggressively scum hunting. You just use POE.
that's such an ass-backwards way of building a good town block.


Attacking people to try to make them slip doesn't really work when you're not in the lynching phase of the game. if anything it's a distraction.
I consider your playstyle a distraction regardless. If you think someone is scummy and can convince others, that seems like a good way to keep scum out of the coalition.
In post 246, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 244, Tuxedo Mask wrote:I consider your playstyle a distraction regardless. If you think someone is scummy and can convince others, that seems like a good way to keep scum out of the coalition.
I'm gonna keep scum out of my coalition by not picking them to be in it.
In post 249, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 243, Tuxedo Mask wrote:I really don't see it as a reason to play differently, care to explain? It also doesn't wave away the reduced post count. Something Bear said they do as scum

You're really comparing my workday post count to my weekend post count?

What could possibly be the reason for the difference. Let me think about that and get back to you.

Image

This is the interaction I'm looking at

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:29 am
by Klick
Looking at it now, I'm not really seeing what makes S/S unlikely? Though I did specifically say earlier while reading that Pooky/Tux was TvS but I can't quite recall why

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:32 am
by Deimos27
I've never actually seen scum 1v1 but I know it does happen from time to time and the emotion doesn't read as particularly natural (e.g. "are you high or something?") so maybe SvS here is a perfectly reasonable possibility.

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:34 am
by Klick
Considering we're going into night I should probably vocalise the fact that I've considerably come around to Deimos-town.

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:37 am
by Deimos27
I like this gamemode. We have a lot of info for future days what with both coalition building and executing. Unfortunately I expect I'll be pretty high NK priority since I'm off-coalition and relatively townread(?).

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:38 am
by Deimos27
I wish I'd been more active earlier on but my motivation for this game is fickle indeed.

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:46 am
by SleeperSoul
I'm not really townreading you deimos, but I'm pretty baffled by the game... especially today.

I'm struggling to think of how I can contribute to the game, feels like whatever I say doesn't help.

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:48 am
by Alduskkel
Wait is Pooky lynched or just at L-1?

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:49 am
by SleeperSoul
L-1

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:50 am
by Alduskkel
Oh okay

Then 1627 just seems like a LAMIST sort of post then.

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:51 am
by Deimos27
Chemist needs to produce more content tomorrow to solidify that tr.

Sleeper is a PoE option that you don't really want in LyLo. He has compatible scumbuddies all across the board (except Chemist).

I don't think Wug is compatible with Chemist or Clover.

If you execute Sleeper tomorrow and they flip town I might actually be betting my money on Klick/Clover team, and you should execute in one of these two. It sounds tinfoil but it has explanatory power, and Klick has the competence to pull it off.

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:53 am
by Alduskkel
I really think Pooky is caught scum and one or both of the Clover/SS wagons is an attempt to save him.